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    Kevin, you wrote: "I would argue that getting a single person
    elected to a partisan office would have a far greater impact than
    simply allowing others (who will realistically never win an
    election) to run for office through our ballot access measures."<br>
    <br>
    Some Libertarians agree with you on this, but a lot of Libertarians
    do not agree with you on this. But it is a common debate that has
    raged on daily for decades between groups of people that refuse to
    listen to each other--so don't count on it ending any time soon. <br>
    <br>
    Nationwide, there are 142 Libertarians holding elected offices: 38
    partisan offices, and 104 nonpartisan offices.<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-officials">http://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-officials</a><br>
    <br>
    See the attached Chapter 15 of my book, Introduction to the
    Libertarian Party - Why Run for Office, for some of my views on the
    issue. <br>
    <br>
    If getting just one person elected to a partisan office is your most
    important goal, then you could personally recruit someone to run in
    a tiny district in Pennsylvania and get it done, almost 100% as a
    result of your efforts (plus the person you recruit). So could other
    people who promote winning a partisan election above all else (and
    in other states too--just that PA is easiest). And they don't need
    anyone's permission to work on it.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-signature">Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
      <small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
          <b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</b><br>
          (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
          facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational<br>
          Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></small></small><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/11/2015 12:14 PM, Kevin Ludlow
      wrote:<br>
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            <div>Fair enough.  Thanks for pointing me to that.  I will
              read over all of those minutes.<br>
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            Provided what you're pointing me to answers that question
            then perhaps what we lack is simply documentation organizing
            these strategies.  I know we have some reports being
            generated, but a simple mechanism to steer ourselves seems
            like it would be of value rather than having to sift through
            minutes.  Still, I'm happy to do it and perhaps will propose
            a better system at our next LNC meeting.<br>
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          Thanks again.<br>
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        Kevin<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Wes
          Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> The LNC discussed,
              debated, and adopted specific goals this term, not the
              "implied goals" Mr. Olsen refers to. It was probably
              before you joined the LNC. I realize you joined to replace
              another member that resigned. <br>
              <br>
              They're in at least one of the minutes here: <a
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                href="http://www.lp.org/leadership/lnc-meeting-archives"
                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lp.org/leadership/lnc-meeting-archives">http://www.lp.org/leadership/lnc-meeting-archives</a></a><br>
              <br>
              You might want to read all of the minutes for this term,
              because they have a lot about ballot access in them, as
              well as other things. <br>
              <br>
              <div>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
                <small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
                    <b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</b><br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232"
                      value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202)
                      333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://facebook.com/libertarians"
                      target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                    @LPNational<br>
                    Join the Libertarian Party at: <a
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></a></small></small><br>
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              <div>On 12/11/2015 11:59 AM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:<br>
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                        No, I definitely did not know that.  It seems
                        like it would be the case as presumably we would
                        get more efficient with our efforts over time,
                        but I've not seen any data to illustrate that
                        point.<br>
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                      In case I've come across poorly, I don't want to
                      seem as if I object to the idea or anything like
                      that.  I just want to encourage the body to have
                      specifically defined strategic goals rather than
                      the "implied goals" that Mr. Olsen was referring
                      to.  As an advocate of the devil, while ballot
                      access may be cheaper, one could still ask what
                      it's end goal is.  I would argue that getting a
                      single person elected to a partisan office would
                      have a far greater impact than simply allowing
                      others (who will realistically never win an
                      election) to run for office through our ballot
                      access measures.  I concede one affects the other
                      and am not making a case for either, but just
                      illustrating how the strategy could differ if it
                      were defined that way.<br>
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                    For the time being, I'm delighted to see the party
                    working so hard to help Oklahoma, am totally behind
                    the effort, and hope that it provides the party with
                    a big morale boost and helps boost the party
                    throughout the state.<br>
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                  -Kevin Ludlow<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:24
                    AM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"
                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a></a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Kevin, did
                        you know that ballot access has gotten easier
                        and cheaper, year after year, as a result of our
                        decades of sustainable efforts?<br>
                        <br>
                        <div>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
                          <small><small>Libertarian National Committee,
                              Inc.<span><br>
                                <b>New address: 1444 Duke St.,
                                  Alexandria, VA 22314</b><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232"
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                                  333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"
                                  target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a></a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://facebook.com/libertarians"
                                  target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                                @LPNational<br>
                                Join the Libertarian Party at: <a
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="http://lp.org/membership"
                                  target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></a></span></small></small><br>
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                            <div>On 12/10/2015 10:57 PM, Kevin Ludlow
                              wrote:<br>
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                                            <div>I appreciate the
                                              variety of voices
                                              responding to my
                                              questions.  And to Mr.
                                              Olsen, 6 paragraphs were
                                              most certainly welcome :)<br>
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                                            I apologize for not being on
                                            the call on Monday. 
                                            Unfortunately work does
                                            occasionally take precedent
                                            over my extra-curricular
                                            activities - political or
                                            otherwise.  I was also
                                            fairly confident the vote
                                            would pass and of course it
                                            did.  So regardless of
                                            anyone's position on the
                                            matter, here we are.<br>
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                                          The gist of what I was getting
                                          at was simply to have the
                                          cost/benefits explained to
                                          me.  Mr. Tomaso nailed one
                                          simply by citing the overall
                                          morale boost that ballot
                                          access provides.  While
                                          perhaps difficult to measure,
                                          there is no doubt relevance to
                                          the claim.  Mr. Olsen,
                                          however, adds a tick to the
                                          "con" side in that he cites
                                          the difficulties with the
                                          sustainability of ballot
                                          access.<br>
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                                        In most any business model one
                                        would likely be advised to stray
                                        AWAY from something that is
                                        unsustainable.  It becomes
                                        difficult to predict costs,
                                        there is always an element of
                                        being unsuccessful, and
                                        meanwhile there exist goals that
                                        actually ARE sustainable should
                                        one direct their effort that
                                        way.<br>
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                                      Perhaps I'm still just too new,
                                      but it simply struck me that I
                                      could not really weigh the
                                      cost/benefits of the financial
                                      decision we were about to make in
                                      any practical way.  I have since
                                      been informed of 1 or 2 costs and
                                      1 or 2 benefits, but it still
                                      seems the Libertarian party should
                                      really be making decisions almost
                                      exclusively upon this kind of
                                      analysis and having a specifically
                                      defined strategy rather than an
                                      implied one as Mr. Olsen points
                                      out.<br>
                                      <br>
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                                    Anyway, thank you all for listening
                                    and for responding to my questions /
                                    concerns.  I appreciate your time.<br>
                                    <br>
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                                  -Kevin Ludlow<br>
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                                Region 7<br>
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 7,
                                  2015 at 2:44 PM, Scott L. <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
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                                      target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:scott73@earthlink.net">scott73@earthlink.net</a></a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">I
                                              am very glad that the
                                              Regional Representative
                                              from Colorado is asking us
                                              to look at and evaluate “</span></font><font
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                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">This
                                              implied goal, or objective
                                              if you prefer, is 50+
                                              state ballot access for
                                              the Libertarian party</span></font><font
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                                            face="Verdana"><span
                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">.”</span></font></p>
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                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">Unfortunately,


                                              now is not a good time for
                                              a full-blown analysis of
                                              the issues that the
                                              Regional Representative is
                                              asking us to look at.</span></font></p>
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                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">We


                                              are only 6 months away
                                              from the end of our LNC
                                              term, and only 6 months
                                              away from the beginning of
                                              the General Election
                                              portion of the 4 year
                                              Presidential Election
                                              Cycle.  I think we have a
                                              moral commitment to our
                                              members to maximize the
                                              number of states that the
                                              <b><span
                                                  style="font-weight:bold">2016
                                                </span></b>Libertarian
                                              Presidential Nominee is on
                                              the ballot, obviously
                                              constrained by how much
                                              money we have available to
                                              pay for signatures.</span></font></p>
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                                              – the next LNC <b><span
                                                  style="font-weight:bold">should

                                                </span></b>start
                                              discussing the topic of
                                              ballot access at their
                                              very first full-weekend
                                              meeting of the next LNC
                                              term.  That way, they have
                                              at least 6 months before
                                              they even have to begin
                                              collecting signatures to
                                              get a candidate on the
                                              ballot for vote test
                                              purposes for the Nov. 2017
                                              elections (VA, NJ, and a
                                              couple of others).</span></font></p>
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                                              being said, I disagree
                                              with the Regional
                                              Representative’s statement
                                              that “</span></font><font
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                                              specific strategies and or
                                              objectives have not been
                                              established, the vacuum is
                                              filled with the implied
                                              objective of achieving 50+
                                              state ballot access. 
                                              While a noble and
                                              legitimately political
                                              objective, it suffers from
                                              several problems;  the
                                              most significant of which
                                              is the problem of being
                                              unachievable on a
                                              permanent, or even
                                              semi-permanent, basis .”</span></font></p>
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                                              style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black">The


                                              Republican and Democrat
                                              Parties have permanent
                                              ballot status, because
                                              they understand that if
                                              they removed ballot access
                                              for the other major party
                                              in even one state, that
                                              “accomplishment” could be
                                              turned into a nationwide
                                              scandal.  But until the LP
                                              becomes a major party (1)
                                              the  Libertarian Party
                                              will not have “permanent”
                                              ballot access in any
                                              state.</span></font></p>
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                                              However, we CAN achieve
                                              semi-permanent ballot
                                              access in 50 states, or
                                              darn close to that
                                              number.  To do that, the
                                              LNC needs to stop focusing
                                              on October ballot access,
                                              and instead focus on
                                              December ballot access. 
                                              That probably means
                                              sacrificing ballot access
                                              in a few states BEFORE an
                                              election in an
                                              even-numbered year, and
                                              using the money saved to
                                              lobby or sue for lower
                                              vote tests in states that
                                              have ridiculously high
                                              vote tests (Alabama and
                                              Connecticut come to mind).</span></font></p>
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Scott


                                              Lieberman</span></font><font
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                                              Defined by the FEC, for
                                              example, as receiving 25%
                                              of the vote for President</span></font><font
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Lnc-business [mailto:<a
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                                                <b><span
                                                    style="font-weight:bold">On


                                                    Behalf Of </span></b>Norm

                                                Olsen<br>
                                                <b><span
                                                    style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                                Monday, December 07,
                                                2015 11:50 AM</span></font></p>
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                                                <b><span
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href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a></a><br>
                                                <b><span
                                                    style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                                Re: [Lnc-business]
                                                report on Oklahoma visit</font></div>
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                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Hello
                                                  Kevin . . .</span></font></p>
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                                              why we should be focusing
                                              so many efforts on
                                              Oklahoma?<font size="2"
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                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">I’d
                                                  like to take a shot at
                                                  answering your
                                                  question.  I have been
                                                  asking similar
                                                  questions for five
                                                  years now.  I could
                                                  write a book in
                                                  response.  But alas;
                                                  you ask for a
                                                  paragraph.  And a
                                                  short one at that. 
                                                  Would I be
                                                  unreasonable to supply
                                                  five or six
                                                  paragraphs?</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">The
                                                  LNC does not have a
                                                  specifically defined
                                                  strategy; nor does it
                                                  have a stated set of
                                                  objectives.  The
                                                  indisputable result is
                                                  that it does not have
                                                  a list of tactics
                                                  (i.e. well defined
                                                  activities) to pursue
                                                  to achieve any of
                                                  these undefined
                                                  objectives.  While
                                                  attempts have been
                                                  made, I am unaware of
                                                  any meeting that has
                                                  established such
                                                  strategies/objectives
                                                  or any writing in the
                                                  bylaws or policy
                                                  manual that
                                                  establishes such. 
                                                  (The policy manual
                                                  lists a set of “core
                                                  activities”, but
                                                  that’s about it.)</span></font></p>
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                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Nevertheless,

                                                  the LNC is not totally
                                                  rudderless.  There
                                                  exists an implied
                                                  basic goal and implied
                                                  tactics to achieve the
                                                  implied goal.  I
                                                  became aware of this
                                                  implied goal (although
                                                  I did not immediately
                                                  recognize the
                                                  significance of it) at
                                                  my very first LNC
                                                  meeting in November of
                                                  2010 in New Orleans. 
                                                  At that meeting, the
                                                  following motion was
                                                  adopted:</span></font></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d;font-style:italic"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/files/2010-11-20-LNCMeetingMinutes-NewOrleans.pdf"
                                                      target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/files/2010-11-20-LNCMeetingMinutes-NewOrleans.pdf">https://www.lp.org/files/2010-11-20-LNCMeetingMinutes-NewOrleans.pdf</a></a></span></font></i><font
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                                                  (printed page 17, .pdf
                                                  page 17):</span></font></p>
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                                                face="Century
                                                Schoolbook"><span>. . .
                                                  moved to authorize the
                                                  Executive Committee to
                                                  encumber expenses for
                                                  ballot access,</span></font></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
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                                                face="Century
                                                Schoolbook"><span>notwithstanding


                                                  the provisions of
                                                  section 1.05 of the
                                                  Policy Manual, for the
                                                  year 2011.</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">[Section
                                                  1.05 of the Policy
                                                  Manual is that section
                                                  which limits Executive
                                                  Committee encumbrances
                                                  to that which has been
                                                  budgeted.]</span></font></p>
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                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">This
                                                  motion was made,
                                                  seconded, <b><span
                                                      style="font-weight:bold">and

                                                      the question
                                                      called</span></b>
                                                  in a time frame of
                                                  about 35 seconds.  It
                                                  was approved by a 11-1
                                                  roll call vote.  This
                                                  implied goal has been
                                                  recertified,
                                                  implicitly, in every
                                                  budget resolution pass
                                                  by the LNC in the last
                                                  5 years.  The Ballot
                                                  Access Petitioning
                                                  Expense line typically
                                                  receives 65% to 85% of
                                                  the budgeted
                                                  discretion funds in
                                                  each year.  You
                                                  participated in the
                                                  budget discussions of
                                                  the 2016 budget where
                                                  Ballot Access
                                                  Petitioning Expense
                                                  was allocated 70% of
                                                  the funds available
                                                  for allocation among
                                                  the Policy Manual’s
                                                  “core activities”.</span></font></p>
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">This
                                                  implied goal, or
                                                  objective if you
                                                  prefer, is 50+ state
                                                  ballot access for the
                                                  Libertarian party,
                                                  with some added
                                                  emphasis on
                                                  Presidential
                                                  elections.  On the
                                                  surface, this appears
                                                  to be a noteworthy
                                                  objective.  However,
                                                  it has been adopted
                                                  implicitly rather than
                                                  explicitly.  That is
                                                  why the question you
                                                  asked comes up from
                                                  time to time.  Gaining
                                                  ballot access in all
                                                  50 states is the
                                                  primary focus of the
                                                  LNC, and remains a
                                                  primary focus in
                                                  fundraising efforts. 
                                                  (It’s hard to raise
                                                  funds to purchase
                                                  office supplies, much
                                                  easier to raise funds
                                                  for ballot access.) 
                                                  And so, given the
                                                  improved chance to
                                                  gain ballot access in
                                                  Oklahoma, even if it
                                                  is for a single
                                                  election cycle, it is
                                                  not surprising that
                                                  the effort is getting
                                                  a large share of our
                                                  attention and
                                                  resources.  Given that
                                                  this has been the
                                                  primary focus of what
                                                  the LNC does, and has
                                                  been doing for at
                                                  least two (if not
                                                  four) decades, it is
                                                  something we must
                                                  demonstrate success at
                                                  or we begin to lose
                                                  the respect of our
                                                  members and donors.</span></font></p>
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">That
                                                  answers the primary
                                                  question, but the
                                                  leaves the follow up
                                                  questions begging for
                                                  an answer.</span></font></p>
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                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">Since

                                                  specific strategies
                                                  and or objectives have
                                                  not been established,
                                                  the vacuum is filled
                                                  with the implied
                                                  objective of achieving
                                                  50+ state ballot
                                                  access.  While a noble
                                                  and legitimately
                                                  political objective,
                                                  it suffers from
                                                  several problems;  the
                                                  most significant of
                                                  which is the problem
                                                  of being unachievable
                                                  on a permanent, or
                                                  even semi-permanent,
                                                  basis .  Thus, the LNC
                                                  has a single
                                                  overpowering objective
                                                  which is absorbs most
                                                  all of its resources
                                                  to achieve, and
                                                  continued consumption
                                                  of these resources to
                                                  maintain to the degree
                                                  achieved.  In other
                                                  words, a pleasant way
                                                  of saying an enormous,
                                                  perpetual, drain on
                                                  resources which
                                                  precludes most all
                                                  other possible uses of
                                                  financial resources.</span></font></p>
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">I
                                                  have been suggesting
                                                  for some time now that
                                                  expending most all of
                                                  our discretionary
                                                  funds on ballot access
                                                  petitioning may not be
                                                  the best use of the
                                                  financial resources
                                                  entrusted to us by our
                                                  members and donors. 
                                                  For that, I have been
                                                  unofficially dubbed
                                                  the “nattering nabob
                                                  of negativity” of the
                                                  Libertarian Party. 
                                                  However, things are
                                                  looking up.  Thanks to
                                                  efforts of the Chair
                                                  and Executive
                                                  Director, the 2016
                                                  budget includes
                                                  $45,000 for Affiliate
                                                  Support, up 4,500%
                                                  from where it was in
                                                  2014.  Our Affiliate
                                                  Support Specialist
                                                  contractor appears to
                                                  have made more
                                                  progress in just three
                                                  months than the LNC
                                                  has in the previous
                                                  six years (since the
                                                  formation of the
                                                  Affiliate Support
                                                  Committee).  I look
                                                  forward to the time
                                                  when the “core
                                                  activities” other than
                                                  the Ballot Access
                                                  Petitioning activity
                                                  are allotted
                                                  equivalent amounts of
                                                  the financial
                                                  resources entrusted to
                                                  us.  At that time, the
                                                  primary question and
                                                  the follow up
                                                  questions will both,
                                                  hopefully, be moot.</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font
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                                                face="Calibri"><span
                                                  style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1f497d">We
                                                  have ballot access in
                                                  28 states; and ballot
                                                  access is reasonable
                                                  (e.g. ~1,000
                                                  signatures) in another
                                                  10 states.  The low
                                                  hanging fruit in the
                                                  ballot access arena
                                                  has been picked.  It’s
                                                  time to start
                                                  producing political
                                                  success in the 38
                                                  states where we have
                                                  ballot access or can
                                                  reasonable obtain
                                                  such.</span></font></p>
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                                                        Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin

                                                    Ludlow<br>
                                                    <b><span
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                                                    Wednesday, December
                                                    02, 2015 2:21 PM<br>
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                                                    <b><span
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                                                    Re: [Lnc-business]
                                                    report on Oklahoma
                                                    visit</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">I would like to make a request of the LNC
                                                          body.  Is
                                                          there a member
                                                          that could, in
                                                          a short
                                                          paragraph or
                                                          less, explain
                                                          why we should
                                                          be focusing so
                                                          many efforts
                                                          on Oklahoma? 
                                                          As the
                                                          Region-7 rep I
                                                          find myself in
                                                          an interesting
                                                          position with
                                                          this issue. 
                                                          On the one
                                                          hand I am
                                                          biased to see
                                                          Oklahoma get
                                                          additional
                                                          resources, but
                                                          on the other
                                                          hand I am a
                                                          practical
                                                          business
                                                          person who
                                                          sees numerous
                                                          flaws with
                                                          pouring money
                                                          into this.</span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">Do we want ballot access across the country? 
                                                          Of course! 
                                                          This doesn't
                                                          even need to
                                                          be discussed. 
                                                          But at what
                                                          cost are we
                                                          willing to
                                                          attain that
                                                          goal?</span></font></p>
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style="font-size:12.0pt">What is the actual downside of us losing
                                                          Oklahoma
                                                          ballot
                                                          access?  I
                                                          don't fully
                                                          understand the
                                                          loss would
                                                          affects others
                                                          running in the
                                                          state, but
                                                          even if it
                                                          entirely
                                                          prevented
                                                          their own
                                                          candidacy, how
                                                          much do we
                                                          lose with
                                                          that?  This
                                                          isn't meant to
                                                          be
                                                          antagonistic,
                                                          but rather
                                                          something the
                                                          LNC should be
                                                          tasked with
                                                          carefully
                                                          analyzing. 
                                                          There was a
                                                          lot of
                                                          conversation
                                                          that it hurts
                                                          our brand in
                                                          Oklahoma (a
                                                          similar
                                                          argument was
                                                          used in
                                                          Oregon).  No
                                                          doubt this is
                                                          true, but in
                                                          Oklahoma
                                                          specifically,
                                                          by how much
                                                          does it hurt
                                                          us?  Do we
                                                          raise an
                                                          exorbitant
                                                          amount of
                                                          money in OK
                                                          each year that
                                                          we might not
                                                          see in 2016 if
                                                          we cut our
                                                          losses?  </span></font></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">I will refer back to a point I've made before. 
                                                          Would any of
                                                          you personally
                                                          spend tends of
                                                          thousands of
                                                          dollars of
                                                          your own money
                                                          on this
                                                          cause?  I
                                                          remain
                                                          extremely
                                                          frustrated we
                                                          couldn't even
                                                          get our own
                                                          body to commit
                                                          to $50 / month
                                                          as top
                                                          representatives
                                                          of the
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party and yet
                                                          here we are
                                                          cavalierly
                                                          about to
                                                          discuss
                                                          whether to
                                                          spend $10s of
                                                          thousands of
                                                          additional
                                                          dollars on a
                                                          cause which by
                                                          all accounts
                                                          we simply may
                                                          not succeed
                                                          in.  I feel
                                                          very strongly
                                                          this is the
                                                          kind of
                                                          difficult
                                                          decision the
                                                          LNC **should**
                                                          have to make
                                                          and it strikes
                                                          me that we
                                                          haven't really
                                                          analyzed the
                                                          cost/benefits
                                                          of it.  Rather
                                                          we relying
                                                          upon the
                                                          notion of: "we
                                                          believe in
                                                          ourselves so
                                                          let's pour
                                                          more money
                                                          into this." 
                                                          ...a la every
                                                          government
                                                          pep-talk ever.</span></font></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">I will also concede that I fully appreciate and
                                                          understand the
                                                          position the
                                                          party
                                                          (specifically
                                                          the Chair) is
                                                          in for having
                                                          raised certain
                                                          monies
                                                          specifically
                                                          tied to us
                                                          making this
                                                          effort.  I do
                                                          get that.  But
                                                          I'm merely
                                                          wanting us to
                                                          consider how
                                                          much more
                                                          useful that
                                                          money could
                                                          possibly be in
                                                          other areas. 
                                                          Are we not a
                                                          political
                                                          party?  Could
                                                          we not
                                                          politick
                                                          donors into
                                                          understanding
                                                          WHY the money
                                                          they donated
                                                          was ultimately
                                                          moved to a
                                                          different
                                                          state cause? 
                                                          Since everyone
                                                          is a
                                                          philosopher
                                                          here, there is
                                                          very basic
                                                          Aristotelian
                                                          logic at play
                                                          here regarding
                                                          donation
                                                          distribution. 
                                                          In the famed
                                                          question,
                                                          "There is a
                                                          surplus of
                                                          flutes, to
                                                          whom do they
                                                          go?", they go
                                                          to the
                                                          flutists as
                                                          those are the
                                                          only people
                                                          who can use
                                                          them.  My
                                                          point being
                                                          that there is
                                                          simply no
                                                          sense in us
                                                          pouring money
                                                          into a cause
                                                          we cannot win
                                                          when that
                                                          money could be
                                                          given to
                                                          states/people
                                                          who can
                                                          actually
                                                          improve the
                                                          overall
                                                          results of our
                                                          Party - rather
                                                          than MAYBE
                                                          catch us up to
                                                          the status
                                                          quo.</span></font></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">So to conclude, I am in no way saying we SHOULD
                                                          cut our
                                                          losses.  But I
                                                          would really
                                                          like somebody
                                                          to quantify
                                                          for me
                                                          specifically
                                                          what we lose
                                                          (objectively)
                                                          if we don't
                                                          chase this
                                                          goal.  Or for
                                                          that matter if
                                                          we chase it
                                                          and fail.  I
                                                          am asking that
                                                          because I
                                                          believe the
                                                          "goal" right
                                                          now is far too
                                                          broad; of
                                                          course we all
                                                          want ballot
                                                          access.  I
                                                          want to know
                                                          if what we
                                                          would lose is
                                                          tolerable to
                                                          the body. 
                                                          That question
                                                          seems far more
                                                          relevant in
                                                          the decision
                                                          process.</span></font></p>
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                                                          email/call/text
                                                          me any time of
                                                          day at <a
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                                                          questions /
                                                          comments.</span></font></p>
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                                                      Wed, Dec 2, 2015
                                                      at 2:47 PM, Wes
                                                      Benedict <<a
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                                                      wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                        went to Oklahoma
                                                        for two reasons:
                                                        first, to help
                                                        with the
                                                        petition drive,
                                                        but second, to
                                                        get a closer
                                                        look so I could
                                                        decide if I
                                                        thought we
                                                        should just shut
                                                        it down. We are
                                                        spending about
                                                        $2,500 a week
                                                        there, and we're
                                                        about to double
                                                        that rate, so if
                                                        we are going to
                                                        cut our losses
                                                        and end it, the
                                                        sooner the
                                                        better.</span></font></p>
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                                                        bottom line
                                                        report to the
                                                        LNC executive
                                                        committee is
                                                        that I'm
                                                        confident we can
                                                        ramp up our
                                                        signature
                                                        collection rate
                                                        enough to finish
                                                        the drive before
                                                        the March 1
                                                        deadline, but we
                                                        are going to
                                                        have to exceed
                                                        the $65,000
                                                        budget for
                                                        Oklahoma by
                                                        $15,000 to
                                                        $25,000 to
                                                        finish the
                                                        drive.</span></font></p>
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                                                        recommending we
                                                        try to finish
                                                        the drive, but
                                                        it wouldn't be
                                                        so unreasonable
                                                        to end it now if
                                                        that's what you
                                                        decide to do.
                                                        Things have gone
                                                        worse than we
                                                        had originally
                                                        planned. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">We

                                                        initially hoped
                                                        that we could do
                                                        this drive for
                                                        $2 per signature
                                                        and that we
                                                        could finish it
                                                        by early fall.
                                                        Recent petition
                                                        drives in places
                                                        like Arkansas
                                                        have gone well,
                                                        and with stories
                                                        of petitioners
                                                        fighting over
                                                        turf and
                                                        demanding the
                                                        opportunity to
                                                        work for us in
                                                        some places, it
                                                        seemed like we
                                                        might actually
                                                        be exceeding the
                                                        market rate for
                                                        signatures in
                                                        some cases.</span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">But

                                                        things have been
                                                        harder than
                                                        expected in
                                                        Oklahoma.  On
                                                        October 27, we
                                                        raised the rate
                                                        in Oklahoma from
                                                        $2 to $2.50 per
                                                        signature, and
                                                        even at that
                                                        higher rate,
                                                        finding enough
                                                        people to work
                                                        has been a
                                                        challenge. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Before

                                                        we started the
                                                        Oklahoma drive,
                                                        stalwart
                                                        libertarian
                                                        petitioner Andy
                                                        Jacobs warned us
                                                        that petition
                                                        drives for
                                                        initiatives in
                                                        other states in
                                                        the fall would
                                                        be competing
                                                        with us for
                                                        workers and
                                                        would drive up
                                                        our costs, so we
                                                        needed to get it
                                                        done over the
                                                        summer.
                                                        Unfortunately,
                                                        we didn't start
                                                        until the end of
                                                        the summer.  And
                                                        while Andy did
                                                        good work for us
                                                        in Oklahoma for
                                                        several weeks,
                                                        he, as well as
                                                        other
                                                        petitioners,
                                                        have indeed left
                                                        Oklahoma for the
                                                        higher paying
                                                        non-Libertarian
                                                        Party Petition
                                                        work in other
                                                        states that he
                                                        warned us about.
                                                        Although Andy is
                                                        out of Oklahoma
                                                        now, he does
                                                        continue to stay
                                                        interested in
                                                        our progress and
                                                        has been
                                                        generous with
                                                        suggestions for
                                                        improvement. I'm
                                                        sure he'd be
                                                        happy to share
                                                        his thoughts on
                                                        our Oklahoma
                                                        effort with any
                                                        of you directly
                                                        if you reach out
                                                        to him. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">One

                                                        suggestion from
                                                        Andy is that we
                                                        should pay more
                                                        to entice
                                                        petitioners back
                                                        and possibly
                                                        even pay $5 per
                                                        signature for
                                                        door to door
                                                        petitioning. Our
                                                        petitioners have
                                                        had hard times
                                                        finding good
                                                        locations with
                                                        lots of the kind
                                                        of foot traffic
                                                        that makes for
                                                        productive
                                                        petitioning.
                                                        Door-to-door
                                                        petitioning can
                                                        give very high
                                                        validity
                                                        signatures, so
                                                        the $5/signature
                                                        rate for 100%
                                                        validity is not
                                                        so far off from
                                                        $2.50 per
                                                        signature for
                                                        around 65%
                                                        validity.  </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">In

                                                        hind sight, I
                                                        wish we had
                                                        started this
                                                        drive earlier.
                                                        But I don't
                                                        think right now
                                                        we need to offer
                                                        a higher pay
                                                        rate (not that
                                                        we could afford
                                                        it, anyway).
                                                        Instead, we need
                                                        to focus on
                                                        recruiting more
                                                        petitioners, and
                                                        we are already
                                                        seeing success
                                                        from that. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Projections


                                                        I've sent to
                                                        Bill Redpath and
                                                        Nick Sarwark
                                                        show that with
                                                        the new workers
                                                        we've already
                                                        recruited, we
                                                        will likely
                                                        finish the drive
                                                        on time. But we
                                                        also have
                                                        several more
                                                        petitioners
                                                        saying they will
                                                        probably be here
                                                        soon to help,
                                                        and if just a
                                                        couple of those
                                                        pan out, we
                                                        could finish in
                                                        January. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I've

                                                        heard lots of
                                                        complaints from
                                                        petitioners that
                                                        it's been very
                                                        hard to find
                                                        good locations
                                                        in Oklahoma to
                                                        collect
                                                        signatures.
                                                        Petitioners have
                                                        told us the
                                                        grocery stores
                                                        won't let them
                                                        petition, public
                                                        places like
                                                        universities and
                                                        festival grounds
                                                        have been
                                                        hostile, and the
                                                        Oklahoma
                                                        Driver's
                                                        licensing places
                                                        are too numerous
                                                        to have
                                                        significant
                                                        people at any
                                                        single location.
                                                      </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">My

                                                        uncle lives in
                                                        Oklahoma City. I
                                                        visited him
                                                        Saturday night
                                                        briefly and was
                                                        surprised when
                                                        he told me he
                                                        had seen
                                                        petitioners
                                                        lately at the
                                                        grocery and post
                                                        office and he
                                                        assumed they
                                                        were ours. I
                                                        asked him
                                                        exactly which
                                                        locations
                                                        because I
                                                        wondered about
                                                        the conflicting
                                                        reports. He
                                                        specified by
                                                        name the Crest
                                                        grocery, Buy For
                                                        Less grocery,
                                                        and post office
                                                        near his home. I
                                                        had hoped to
                                                        find time to
                                                        visit those
                                                        stores myself to
                                                        ask why they
                                                        might be letting
                                                        petitioners for
                                                        other efforts
                                                        work there but
                                                        not libertarians
                                                        (assuming that
                                                        was the case). 
                                                      </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I
                                                        didn't find time
                                                        for that, but
                                                        LPOK vice chair
                                                        Tina Kelly has
                                                        since told me
                                                        that even she
                                                        had been
                                                        personally told
                                                        by those chains
                                                        she couldn't
                                                        petition there,
                                                        only to find out
                                                        later that one
                                                        of the
                                                        petitioners she
                                                        recruited
                                                        somehow did get
                                                        permission at a
                                                        location of both
                                                        chains. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I
                                                        think some of
                                                        our stalwart
                                                        petitioners like
                                                        Andy are used to
                                                        finding
                                                        locations where
                                                        they
                                                        occasionally hit
                                                        the jackpot and
                                                        collect over 500
                                                        signatures on a
                                                        single day. That
                                                        makes up for the
                                                        more common slow
                                                        days.
                                                        Petitioners who
                                                        come from out of
                                                        town usually
                                                        have
                                                        transportation
                                                        and motel
                                                        expenses they
                                                        pay out of
                                                        pocket. Locals
                                                        don't have the
                                                        travel overhead
                                                        and we are
                                                        getting a few
                                                        locals working.
                                                        They may be
                                                        slower than
                                                        someone like
                                                        Andy, but they
                                                        can go slower
                                                        and still make
                                                        the economics
                                                        work. Locals can
                                                        spend more time
                                                        asking for
                                                        permission at
                                                        more places and
                                                        can afford to
                                                        get chased away
                                                        from more
                                                        locations. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I
                                                        personally saw
                                                        the entire batch
                                                        of petition
                                                        forms. That was
                                                        reassuring. In
                                                        fact I pulled an
                                                        all-nighter
                                                        Monday and
                                                        scanned all
                                                        2,000 sheets in
                                                        case we need
                                                        help remotely
                                                        with validation,
                                                        and because
                                                        while often
                                                        hearing
                                                        anecdotes of
                                                        certain
                                                        petitioners
                                                        routinely
                                                        getting better
                                                        validity than
                                                        others, I wanted
                                                        the opportunity
                                                        to see for
                                                        myself. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">LP

                                                        vice chair Tina
                                                        Kelly has been
                                                        indispensable to
                                                        this drive.
                                                        Petitioners turn
                                                        in signatures to
                                                        her, she gives
                                                        us the counts,
                                                        we wire funds,
                                                        she writes
                                                        checks, and pays
                                                        the petitioners.
                                                        She also visits
                                                        with the
                                                        elections
                                                        authorities to
                                                        find out
                                                        important rules
                                                        and procedures
                                                        for our petition
                                                        drive. She has
                                                        worked to get
                                                        cooperation from
                                                        a couple
                                                        single-issue
                                                        groups doing
                                                        ballot
                                                        initiatives.
                                                        Although results
                                                        from those
                                                        cooperation
                                                        efforts have
                                                        been lower than
                                                        hoped, we’ve
                                                        gotten a couple
                                                        thousand
                                                        signatures from
                                                        the
                                                        cooperation.  </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">Tina's

                                                        son recently put
                                                        the Oklahoma
                                                        registered voter
                                                        database online
                                                        in a searchable
                                                        format to assist
                                                        with validity
                                                        checking. That
                                                        will be hugely
                                                        helpful. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">While

                                                        Tina has done
                                                        lots of work,
                                                        it's hard for
                                                        one person to do
                                                        all that she
                                                        does plus
                                                        respond to all
                                                        the complaints
                                                        from current
                                                        petitioners and
                                                        inquiries from
                                                        prospective
                                                        petitioners, not
                                                        to mention
                                                        answering
                                                        frequent
                                                        questions about
                                                        progress from
                                                        Bill Redpath and
                                                        me. We recently
                                                        decided to have
                                                        Paul Frankel
                                                        help with some
                                                        of the local
                                                        management
                                                        assistance. I
                                                        had gone to
                                                        Oklahoma with
                                                        the expectation
                                                        that I might
                                                        recommend
                                                        removing Paul to
                                                        save money, but
                                                        right now I
                                                        think we should
                                                        keep him at
                                                        least for a
                                                        month to make
                                                        sure new
                                                        petitioners have
                                                        someone they can
                                                        reach quickly
                                                        any time of day.
                                                        Later we can
                                                        reevaluate the
                                                        cost of having
                                                        him there. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt"> Tina

                                                        invited me and
                                                        the LPOK
                                                        officers and
                                                        activists to a
                                                        nice restaurant
                                                        Tuesday night. I
                                                        asked who would
                                                        be a candidate
                                                        if we got ballot
                                                        access. Out of
                                                        about ten
                                                        people, at least
                                                        3 indicated
                                                        interest,
                                                        including one
                                                        who was against
                                                        attempting this
                                                        daunting
                                                        petition drive
                                                        originally
                                                        (because it’s so
                                                        much work), but
                                                        would run if we
                                                        made it. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I
                                                        told the
                                                        prospect who
                                                        might be
                                                        interested in US
                                                        Senate I'd give
                                                        $200 towards the
                                                        $1,000 filing
                                                        fee if he runs
                                                        in 2016, and
                                                        someone else
                                                        quickly offered
                                                        another $200. I
                                                        think we’ll get
                                                        several people
                                                        to run for
                                                        office in
                                                        addition to
                                                        having our
                                                        candidate for
                                                        President on the
                                                        ballot if we get
                                                        ballot access.</span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">(My

                                                        plane, where I'm
                                                        writing most of
                                                        this note, just
                                                        landed in DC.
                                                        Final thoughts
                                                        below from the
                                                        office.)</span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m

                                                        not counting on
                                                        legal help to
                                                        make a
                                                        difference in
                                                        time for us.
                                                        However, if our
                                                        counsel or the
                                                        Oklahoma ACLU is
                                                        successful in
                                                        time, of course
                                                        that might make
                                                        things easier. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I’m

                                                        also mindful of
                                                        keeping alive
                                                        the dream for 50
                                                        state ballot
                                                        access, and the
                                                        negative impact
                                                        giving up in
                                                        Oklahoma now
                                                        might have.</span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">A
                                                        Libertarian from
                                                        Austin, Texas,
                                                        Michael
                                                        Chastain,
                                                        donated $4,000
                                                        last week to
                                                        help the
                                                        Oklahoma
                                                        petition drive.
                                                        That’s in
                                                        addition to the
                                                        five thousand or
                                                        so we raised
                                                        online recently:
                                                      </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/serious-help-needed-for-oklahoma-petition-drive"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/serious-help-needed-for-oklahoma-petition-drive">http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/serious-help-needed-for-oklahoma-petition-drive</a></a></span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I
                                                        rushed out to
                                                        Oklahoma
                                                        Saturday partly
                                                        so I could be
                                                        back in the
                                                        office Wednesday
                                                        to meet Mr.
                                                        Chastain in
                                                        person (he was
                                                        visiting the
                                                        D.C. area and
                                                        was interested
                                                        in visiting the
                                                        headquarters
                                                        today--Wednesday).</span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">I’ll

                                                        have more good
                                                        news about
                                                        support from Mr.
                                                        Chastain soon. </span></font></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font
                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">The

                                                        LNC-EC is
                                                        schedule to meet
                                                        Monday
                                                        12/7/2015, to
                                                        decide whether
                                                        or not to
                                                        continue the
                                                        LPOK drive. I’m
                                                        sending this
                                                        info to all of
                                                        you know in case
                                                        you’d like more
                                                        information
                                                        before that
                                                        meeting.</span></font></p>
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                                                      size="3"
                                                      face="Times New
                                                      Roman"><span
                                                        style="font-size:12.0pt">cc'ing

                                                        Richard Winger.</span></font></p>
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style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">-- <br>
                                                          Wes Benedict,
                                                          Executive
                                                          Director<br>
                                                        </span></font><font
                                                        size="1"><span
                                                          style="font-size:7.5pt">Libertarian


                                                          National
                                                          Committee,
                                                          Inc.</span></font>
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