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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>Mr. Olsen is partly correct. 
In medium to large size districts in which having boatloads of money is a major
factor in getting elected, yes: political organizations win elections.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><br>
However- you have to be able to crawl before you can walk.<br>
<br>
Even after 44 years of existence, the Libertarian Party is not even crawling
right now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>That means the elections that we
can win <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>right now</span></b> are those that
do NOT depend on a political organization.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>That means non-partisan elections,
non-contested partisan elections, and partisan elections in districts which are
small enough such that our candidates can walk the entire district at least
once. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>If you talk to Libertarians who
have won these types of elections, you will find that they <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>mostly</span></b> did it with little if any help from
local Libertarians.  Either they were a one-man show, or they had mostly
non-Libertarian friends helping them.   That is why I think our local
LP organizations would be well served by finding candidates to run for local, winnable
offices, so that said candidates DON’T need an army of Libertarian
volunteers to get them elected.   By winning those small elections,
they will slowly build up a Rolodex list of volunteers who can help them when
they run for County Commissioner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>     
Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Norm Olsen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 14, 2015
10:56 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] report
on <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State>
visit</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>>>></span></font>
Beyond the issues, and moderate versus radical, I'm talking about giving
information to Libertarians about how the information given to Republicans
winning partisan races where they are running in districts that have a baseline
of support of 30 to 60% already, is different than the information that
Libertarians need to start from a baseline of 2% or 5%, to get to 51%.<font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>May I point out an
important aspect of this discussion.  With a few exceptions, candidates do
not win elections.  Political parties win elections.  Consider:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Approval
ratings of our national legislature are in the teens, having dipped to single
digits for a while not too long ago.  Yet, incumbent re-election is about
95%.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Maybe,
just maybe, one out of ten voters can tell you who their state legislature
representatives are.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Maybe,
just maybe, one out of a hundred voters can tell you who their county
commissioner is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>For
the lesser public offices (state legislature, county commissioner, etc.) a huge
percentage of all voters simply vote the party label.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>My
favorite: Joel Hefly (Colorado CD-5) was elected to Congress for ten
terms.  In later terms, he limited campaign expenses to less than $5,000
so he didn’t have to do the financial reporting.  He still got
elected in landslides.  Was Mr. Hefly a genius? A celebrity?  Nope:
he was nominated by the Republican Party is a Republican district.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Parties win
elections.  Having a good candidate helps out a lot, but it is the
political party that wins an election.  For the Libertarian Party is to
win partisan elections (even at the lower levels), a well established, capable,
political organization has be in place.  Expecting a candidate to
establish his/her own organization for a campaign is a loser for three major
reasons:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>They
will likely not succeed<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Once
the election is over, whatever has been accomplished organizationally is
typically disappear on an early November Wednesday morning.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3><font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>    
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Not
only the candidate, but the members of the organization constructed will be
disgruntled; and we’ll likely not see them ever again.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Again: A good
candidate/cause helps, but with very rare exceptions: </span></font><b><font
size=4 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:14.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D;font-weight:bold'>Political organizations win elections.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Norm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>--<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Norman T Olsen<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Regional
Representative, Region 1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>Libertarian National
Committee<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>7931 South Broadway,
PMB 102<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
  color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;
  color:#1F497D'>Littleton</span></font></st1:City><font size=2 color="#1f497d"
 face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>,
 <st1:State w:st="on">CO</st1:State>  <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">80122-2710</st1:PostalCode></span></font></st1:place><font
size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:
Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'>303-263-4995<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Wes Benedict<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Friday, December 11, 2015
3:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] report
on <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State>
visit<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Attention Dr. Lieberman, Mr. Katz, and other strong
proponents of getting Libertarians elected:<br>
<br>
What I think would be very helpful is a 20-page guide that has some of the kind
of factual information that a rational non-interested observer, might provide,
that shows what kinds of elections Libertarians have won in the past, and are
likely to win in the near future.<br>
<br>
And I'm not just talking about rants from the Leadership Institute about how
your principles don't matter if you don't get elected. I understand the point
the man from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Baton Rouge</st1:place></st1:City>
is making about putting importance on the election mechanics required to get
votes.<br>
<br>
I'm also not talking about the kinds of messaging issues the crush-proof tubing
salesman suggests about focusing on local, moderate, economic issues. <br>
<br>
Beyond the issues, and moderate versus radical, I'm talking about giving
information to Libertarians about how the information given to Republicans
winning partisan races where they are running in districts that have a baseline
of support of 30 to 60% already, is different than the information that
Libertarians need to start from a baseline of 2% or 5%, to get to 51%.<br>
<br>
<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">New York</st1:place></st1:State> has
fusion. That's different than <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texas</st1:place></st1:State>.
Mr. Katz was elected in a Republican seat in CT. That's different than getting
elected as a Libertairan in a Libertarian seat in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
 w:st="on">Indiana</st1:place></st1:State>. <br>
<br>
More info:<br>
1. Here's a history of the size of the jurisdictions where Libertarians won
partisan offices, and the types of elections they were in:<br>
<br>
2. Types of elections: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<ul type=disc>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>P - normal partisan (one winner)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>PMx - partisan with multiple winners ("vote
     for x")<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>PF - partisan with fusion<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><st1:place w:st="on"><font size=3 color=black
      face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>PO</span></font></st1:place>
     - partisan with open filing (multiple candidates can appear with the same
     party label)<o:p></o:p></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>PT - partisan "top-two" primary<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>PTR - partisan "top-two" runoff<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>N - nonpartisan (one winner)<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
 <li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
     mso-list:l2 level1 lfo7'><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
     style='font-size:12.0pt'>NMx - nonpartisan with multiple winners
     ("vote for x")<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
</ul>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><br>
People get real mad at me personally if I say they aren't likely to win a race
for governor, so I don't say it much anymore. Instead, I say they are running
to win (if that's what they want to hear from me), but if they don't win, they
will help promote libertarian principles on public policy. <br>
<br>
An LNC Elected Libertarians Committee could get away with stating the cold hard
facts about what elections Libertarians are likely to win. And if done so in a
certain way, such a committee could also recognize the value of running for
President or Governor or Congress to advocate ending the war on drugs and
changing public policy regardless of winning those races.<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Wes Benedict, Executive
Director<br>
</span></font><font size=1><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Libertarian National
Committee, Inc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Verdana><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana'>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>On 12/11/2015 1:26 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Sidenote:  This is why I have suggested, in the
past, that training sessions held by a political party might usefully include
one or two elected officials, who can presumably speak on two topics:  1.
 how to win office as a Libertarian (something outside professionals can't
usually teach us, although they can teach us much), and 2.  how to govern
as a Libertarian - how to effectively advance an agenda while in office and
move other office-holders (if serving in a non-executive capacity) to vote with
you, build a coalition, and get a freer society as a benefit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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