<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Roland,<br><br></div>Again, the point is not to discuss the opinion (though you may just be speaking tongue in cheek here).  For this type of thing it's to have hard numbers of what things actually cost.  Hard numbers on the time it takes to get to/fro.  Hard data on what transportation is available.  Etc.  In Wes' example of ballot access, it's not to record discussions on IF we should pursue ballot access, it's to provide the data and costs of how we've historically done it.  What was successful?  What failed? <br><br></div>If you look through my campaign Wiki (the URL I sent a few emails ago), you will see costs detailed, turn-around times documented, contact information of sales people, discounts we were able to get, etc.  Any new candidate could take that information and presumably save themselves dozens of hours of labor that my campaign had to expend since nobody had captured that data before (at least nobody could provide it to me).<br><br></div>This kind of knowledge base is extremely useful.  Without it we essentially have to start over each time there is a changing of the guard.  It is extremely useful for eliminating the need to talk to somebody for historical information and typically has the benefit of making people more expendable (a good thing for an organization's growth).<br><br>It follows the "bus theory" - that the LNC wouldn't be entirely stuck if everyone on the board suddenly died in a bus crash.  This is a critical step to any organization that intends to grow.  I don't see why we'd be any different :) <br><br><br></div>-Kevin<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Roland Riemers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:riemers@yahoo.com" target="_blank">riemers@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span></span></div><div dir="ltr">Option D:  hold it in exotic place that we will all want to go to such as Virgin Islands or Hawaii???  Or maybe just put us all on a Carnival Cruise boat (but I suppose we would loose contact with the news media),  but the cost would probably be cheaper, and the Libertarians would have the run of a large boat.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Roland Riemers   ND<br></div><div><br><br></div><div style="display:block">  <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"><span class=""> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a> <br> </span><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 21, 2015 2:06 PM<div><div class="h5"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] early Christmas present - $20, 000 for quiz door hangers<br> </div></div></font> </div> <div><br><div>
  

    
  
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    Kevin, I like the concept of having a repository for information.
    One of the challenges to putting something like that together is the
    vast differences of opinion on what ought to be done.<br>
    <br>
    Imagine the section for planning LNC meeting:<br>
    Opinion A: hold it someplace inexpensive for board members like OKC<br>
    Opinion B: hold it someplace more expensive that will impressive
    people (NYC)<br>
    Opinion C: hold it online instead of in person<br>
    <br>
    I think you can imagine other disagreements on other topics:<br>
    <br>
    Ballot access:<br>
    Opinion A<br>
    Opinion B<br>
    <br>
    Conventions:<br>
    Opinion A (hold it on a cruise ship).<br>
    etc.<br>
    <br>
    Running for office:<br>
    Opinion A<br>
    etc.<br>
    <br>
    In any case, there is a ballot access committee tasked with putting
    together best practices for ballot access. And some places with
    repositories of info that that is hard to keep up to date. Great
    ideas and goals to have overall.<br>
    <br>
    <div>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
      <small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
          <b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</b><br>
          <a value="+12023330008">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a rel="nofollow">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
          <a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational<br>
          Join the Libertarian Party at: <a rel="nofollow">http://lp.org/membership</a></small></small><br>
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    <div>On 12/21/2015 2:53 PM, Kevin Ludlow
      wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Wes,<br>
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                  It's really nice to see visual data like that; thanks
                  so much for putting that together!<br>
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                I had a question for the LNC in general: do we have a
                knowledge-base or some kind of repository for keeping up
                with this kind of material?  It would be really nice to
                know that there is a single place, accessible by all,
                where all of this information goes.<br>
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              <div>When I ran in Texas last year it was immediately
                obvious that LPTexas had never made any effort to try to
                put such a knowledge base together.  My campaign team
                and I did our best to collect everything we did and
                place it into a navigable Wiki so that other candidates
                could use it.  It's far from exhaustive, but it was a
                start and many other candidates were able to use it. 
                Incidentally Kurt Hildebrand has been really good at
                creating those systems within LPTexas using our
                org-system.<br>
                <br>
                Anyway, if we don't have anything like it then I would
                be happy to setup something like this for the LNC so
                that we're not relying solely upon email chains for
                historical information in the future.<br>
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              <div>LPTexas Campaign Wiki: <a rel="nofollow">http://www.ludlow2014.com/wiki/</a><br>
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              Login: lptexas<br>
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            Password: ludlow2014<br>
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          Thanks much.<br>
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        Kevin<br>
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        <div><div><div class="h5">On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Wes
          Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div><div><div class="h5"> Horizontal axis is
              the week. The drive has about 27 weeks from the time we
              started paying for signature till the deadline.<br>
              <br>
              Week ending 8/20/2015 ("1") through week ending 2/28/2016
              ("27").<span><br>
                <br>
                <div>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<br>
                  <small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
                      <b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA
                        22314</b><br>
                      <a rel="nofollow">(202)
                        333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
                      <a rel="nofollow">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                      @LPNational<br>
                      Join the Libertarian Party at: <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">http://lp.org/membership</a></small></small><br>
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                  <div>On 12/21/2015 12:59 PM, Scott L. wrote:<br>
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                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">That’s

                            what I get for using words I haven’t used
                            since high school.</span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">It

                            should have read:</span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Mr.

                            Executive Director:</span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">I
                            assume the ordinate (vertical axis) on the
                            graph below represents raw signatures that
                            have been turned in to Mr. Frankel.</span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"><br>
                            What does the <s>ordinate</s>  </span></font><span><b><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold">abscissa</span></font></b></span><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">
                             (horizontal axis) represent?</span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> </span></font></div>
                      <div><font face="Verdana" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> 
                            Scott Lieberman</span></font></div>
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                        <div><b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext">
                              Lnc-business [<a rel="nofollow">mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                  Behalf Of </span></b>Wes Benedict<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                              Monday, December 21, 2015 9:30 AM<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                              <a rel="nofollow">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                              Re: [Lnc-business] early Christmas present
                              - $20, 000 for quiz door hangers</span></font><font color="black"><span style="color:windowtext"></span></font></div>
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                      <div><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></div>
                      <div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">We have ramped up
                            our collection rate dramatically. I
                            currently predict (but I caution that my
                            prediction could be off due to many factors
                            such as weather, competing petitions,
                            validity issues, math or count errors, and
                            many other issues), but again, I currently
                            predict we will finish around January 15
                            plus or minus 10 days. So be sure to check
                            back with me before making concrete plans.
                            See graph below.<br>
                            <br>
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                        <div style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Wes Benedict,
                              Executive Director<br>
                            </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Libertarian
                              National Committee, Inc.<br>
                              <b><span style="font-weight:bold">New
                                  address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA
                                  22314</span></b><br>
                              <a rel="nofollow">(202)
                                333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
                              <a rel="nofollow">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                              @LPNational<br>
                              Join the Libertarian Party at: <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">http://lp.org/membership</a></span></font></div>
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                        <div><font face="Times New Roman" color="black" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On 12/19/2015
                              3:33 PM, Roland Riemers wrote:</span></font></div>
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                              <div style="background:white"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Wes, 
I

                                    understand the SD petitioners got
                                    sidetracked to Texas for a few
                                    weeks, and then will be in Oklahoma.  
I

                                    should be there about that time as
                                    well.  Aim is still to hit the Tulsa
                                    area.</span></font></div>
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                            <div style="background:white"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">Roland
Riemers

                                  ND</span></font></div>
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                                  <div style="background:white"><b><font face="Arial" color="black" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">
                                        Wes Benedict <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org</a><div><div class="h5"><br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                        <a rel="nofollow">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>
                                        <br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                        Friday, December 18, 2015 3:46
                                        PM<br>
                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                        [Lnc-business] early Christmas
                                        present - $20, 000 for quiz door
                                        hangers</div></div></span></font><font face="Helvetica" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"></span></font></div>
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                                  <div style="background:white"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica"> </span></font></div>
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                                      <div style="margin-bottom:13.5pt;background:white"><font face="Helvetica" color="black" size="4"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica">I'm
pleased

                                            to announce a check received
                                            for $20,000 to help finance
                                            a major quiz door hanger
                                            distribution project in
                                            2016. <br>
                                            <br>
                                            The check was hand delivered
                                            recently by Michael
                                            Chastain, of Austin, Texas.
                                            Mr. Chastain also recently
                                            contributed $4,000 for
                                            Oklahoma ballot access.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            I plan to do something
                                            similar to what we did in
                                            2010:<br>
                                            <a rel="nofollow">http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-help-reach-a-million</a><br>
                                            <a rel="nofollow">http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/quiz-across-america-door-hangers-5-per-100</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                            but this time, I want to do
                                            over a million door hangers.
                                            I can see having the quiz on
                                            one side, and our
                                            presidential nominee on the
                                            other.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            In 2010, we also received a
                                            $20,000 check from a
                                            different donor to help
                                            support door hangers. With
                                            the extra financing, we're
                                            able to sell them at five
                                            cents each and waive
                                            shipping charges, rather
                                            than selling at 10 cents
                                            each plus $5 shipping as we
                                            do now.<br>
                                            <br>
                                            For those of you new to the
                                            LNC, I've written
                                            separately, and will write
                                            more in the future, about
                                            how the door hangers do much
                                            more than simply provide the
                                            printed advertising
                                            benefits. They encourage
                                            local activity, etc. I'll
                                            write more about it later. <br>
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                                            To me, this was an early
                                            Christmas present to the LP,
                                            but I certainly understand
                                            others might see it
                                            differently:<br>
                                            <a rel="nofollow">http://www.lp.org/poll/i-consider-myself-to-be-a-libertarian-politically-and-the-word-that-best-describes-my-religion</a><br>
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                                              National Committee, Inc.<br>
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                                                  address: 1444 Duke St.,
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                                                333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a rel="nofollow"></a><a rel="nofollow">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
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                                              @LPNational<br>
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