<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>To the request of Dr. Lark and the previous question of the Chair, here is another poll featuring OKC, Phoenix, and NOTA.<br><br><a href="http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote">http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote</a><br><br></div><div>To Dr. Lark's request, it would be truly wonderful if somebody could post the prices to the hotels. I appreciate that some of you strongly believe this should be factored into our decision.<br><br>Apologies to Dr. Lark on this particular part as I certainly don't mean to be directly combative, but as I have stated on various occasions and will likely continue to argue, unless there is a significant cost difference (of which I cannot imagine there is), then I strongly disagree with cost be factored into the meeting of a National Political Party. Further, I encourage others not to factor price unless it is genuinely significant. As I have clarified several times, it is completely inappropriate to spend $500 on a hotel room. Any reasonable person can understand that. On the other hand, there is absolutely no practical difference between a $75 room with breakfast and a $125 room without breakfast. That is simply the cost of doing business and I believe it is in poor form for an organization that is literally trying to elect its own candidate for President of the United States to be obstructed by such a thing.<br><br></div><div>Going back to one of Dr. Lark's points: there are significant details missing from the Oklahoma idea. It would be great to have these detailed. In other words: what exactly would the LNC be expected to do in OKC? Would these expectations align with the calendar or not (essentially Dr. Lark's question)?<br></div><div><br></div>That said, I fully understand if you wish to wait for said numbers before voting. If not, then it will literally take 10 seconds of your life:<br><br><a href="http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote">http://polljunkie.com/poll/zamzoj/poll-2-please-do-not-open-the-page-and-then-not-vote</a><br><br></div>Thank you.<br></div>Kevin Ludlow<br></div>Region 7 Rep<br>512-773-3968<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:08 AM, James Lark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jwl3s@virginia.edu" target="_blank">jwl3s@virginia.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Dear colleagues:<br>
<br>
I hope all is well with you. I am writing to suggest that a
poll between Phoenix and Oklahoma City would be appropriate, and
that the room rates for the hotels be provided prior to conducted
the poll. I suggest this for the following reasons:<br>
<br>
* The previous poll did not allow for the expression of intensity
of preference. My vote for Oklahoma City was a result of the fact
that I had to select one of the listed options in order to
participate in the poll. I was essentially indifferent between
Phoenix and OKC when I voted.<br>
<br>
* If we are able to hold the February meeting at a prospective
convention hotel in Phoenix, then unless the cost of holding the
meeting in Phoenix is substantially greater than holding it in OKC,
my preference would change from a very weak preference for OKC to a
weak preference for Phoenix.<br>
<br>
* A poll with only the choices of Phoenix and OKC may produce an
ordering between the two locations that is different from the one
produced by the previous poll.<br>
<br>
* If I understand correctly, the LP Oklahoma is allowed to conduct
only one submission of signatures in its petitioning effort. If so,
then if the deadline for submission of signatures is at least a week
later than Feb. 22, my gut feeling is that the signatures should not
be submitted on or about Feb. 22. Thus, it is not clear to me that
one of the possible benefits of an LNC meeting in OKC (a press
conference associated with the submission of the signatures) would
materialize.<br>
<br>
As always, thanks for your work for liberty. I look forward to
seeing you next month.<br>
<br>
Take care,<br>
Jim<br>
<br>
James W. Lark, III<br>
Advisor, The Liberty Coalition<br>
University of Virginia<br>
<br>
Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
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<div>On 1/5/2016 11:36 PM, Nicholas Sarwark
wrote:<br>
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<div>We have received bids from convention hotels in
Bellevue, Phoenix, New Orleans, and Atlantic City. Based
on the poll Mr. Ludlow organized, I'm leaning toward
planning the meeting for Oklahoma City.<br>
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Robert is checking on final numbers on the bids that came in
today, and should have those back by tomorrow. All of the
other cities are more expensive than Oklahoma City, but I
think we already knew that.<br>
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If you feel we should have another poll between Phoenix and
Oklahoma City, please say so. If I don't hear a strong
objection or request for another poll in the next day or so, I
intend to ask Mr. Benedict to go forward with planning the
next meeting in Oklahoma City and coordinating with the
Oklahoma Libertarian Party for a press conference on the
Friday prior or Monday after the meeting.<br>
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-Nick<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 4:32
PM, Kevin Ludlow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ludlow@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:ludlow@gmail.com" target="_blank">ludlow@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ms. Kirkland is right. I completely
missed Mr. Marsh's response. So sorry, Ed and
thanks, Vicki. That leaves Mr. Tomasso and Mr.
Windeler unaccounted for; I have a message out to
both of them. 24 of 26 on our LNC list have
weighed in.
<div>
<div><br>
<br>
<span><span><span><span><span><u><b>Oklahoma
City</b></u><span><br>
<div>Gary Johnson<br>
</div>
<div>Marc Feldman<br>
</div>
<span>
<div>Nick Sarwark<br>
</div>
<div>Vicki Kirkland (originally
voted New Orleans)<br>
</div>
<div>Guy McLendon (originally
voted New Orleans)<br>
</div>
</span></span></span></span><span><span>
<div><span>Wes Benedict<br>
<span>Norm Olsen (voted via
email instead of the poll)<br>
</span></span><span><span>Daniel
Hayes (voted in email instead
of the poll)<br>
</span></span></div>
</span></span></span></span></span><span>
<div><span><span><span>Jim Lark</span></span><br>
<span><span><span><span>Sean O'Toole
(voted in email instead of poll)<br>
</span></span></span></span><span><span><span>Scott
Spencer</span></span></span><br>
</span><span><span><span><span><span>Bill
Redpath<span><br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div><span><span><br>
</span></span></div>
</span><span><span><span><span><span><span><u><b>Phoenix</b></u><span><br>
<div>Kevin Ludlow<br>
</div>
<div>Sam Goldstein<br>
</div>
<div>Dan Wiener<br>
</div>
<div>Alicia Mattson<br>
</div>
</span></span>
<div>Tim Hagan<br>
</div>
</span>
<div>Scott Lieberman<br>
<span><span><span><span><span>Brett
Bittner (originally voted
Oklahoma City)<br>
</span></span></span></span></span></div>
</span><span><span><span>
<div><br>
</div>
<u><b>New Orleans</b></u><br>
<div>Arvin Vohra<br>
<span><span><span><span>Doug
Craig (voted in email
instead of poll)<span><br>
</span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div><br>
</div>
<u><b>Atlantic City</b></u><br>
Josh Katz<br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
</div>
<span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>Ed
Marsh<br>
<br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span><span><u><b>Bellevue</b></u><br>
<span>Roland Rimers</span><span><br>
<br>
<u><b>Have not heard from</b></u><span><span><br>
<div><span>Ron Windeler<br>
</span></div>
</span></span></span><span></span></span></span></span>
<div><span><span><span>Rich Tomasso</span></span></span></div>
<br>
</div>
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