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<td>Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Alabama: Frankel says
75%; govt says 41%</td>
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<td>Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:50:15 -0600</td>
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<td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a></td>
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<td>Wes Benedict <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"><wes.benedict@lp.org></a></td>
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<div>Wes, slight correction. Leigh Lachine came up with the 75%
validity estimate and has been doing a 100% check on the
signatures and has voter IDs to go with each signature he
verified. I have not personally checked any of them myself,
although I collected a lot of them. I did check a lot of the
Oklahoma signatures myself, and collected a very disappointing
but not insignificant number. Please share. <br>
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-p<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM, <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Attn Roland Riemers
and Kevin Ludlow: This is relevant to the Oklahoma
discussion in that Paul Frankel has made estimates of
validity in Oklahoma that certainly seem reasonable, but
there's a possibility the government will see it
differently. Incidentally, the government did not seem to
screw us on validity in Alabama last time we did Jefferson
County (in 2013 I think).<br>
<div><br>
See Alabama discussion below.<br>
<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
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<td>Re: RE: Libertarian petition review</td>
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<td>Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:53:21 -0600</td>
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<td>Libertarian Party of Alabama <a
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target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"><leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org></a></a>,
TE Finnegan <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:te.finnegan.libertarian@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><te.finnegan.libertarian@gmail.com></a>,
William Redpath <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wredpath2@yahoo.com"
target="_blank"><wredpath2@yahoo.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gary.johnson@lp.org"
target="_blank">gary.johnson@lp.org</a> <a
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target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gary.johnson@lp.org"><gary.johnson@lp.org></a></a>,
Gary Johnson <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Oliver Hall <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Nicholas Sarwark <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Ken Moellman <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Wes Benedict <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank"><wes.benedict@lp.org></a>,
Carla Howell <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank"><carla.howell@lp.org></a>,
Bob Johnston <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bob.johnston@lp.org"
target="_blank"><bob.johnston@lp.org></a>,
Ed Marsh <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ed.marsh@lp.org" target="_blank"><ed.marsh@lp.org></a>,
MarkAxinn <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:markaxinn@hotmail.com"
target="_blank"><markaxinn@hotmail.com></a>,
LP-State Chairs <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank"><statechairs@lp.org></a>,
Independent Political Report <a
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Richard Winger <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Leigh, I'm not sure who all you meant by
"everyone", so I apologize in advance if I
overdid it. I copied<br>
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-The LP national ballot access committee, which I
am on<br>
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-LP national chair Nick Sarwark<br>
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<div>-Several members of LPHQ staff<br>
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<div>-LP state chairs, since you and I are both on the
LSLA board and we could conceivably add this to
Wednesday night's phone call agenda if you want to
do so and ask any state chairs who may have useful
advice or resources to help with this situation to
join us (or provide it via the email list), <br>
</div>
<div>-My fellow writers at Independent Political
Report<br>
</div>
<div>-LP national legal counsel, Oliver Hall<br>
</div>
<div>-Former LP state chairs Ken Moellman of KY and
Mark Axinn of NY, both of whom have shown a lot of
interest in national ballot access issues over the
years<br>
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<div>-Prospective LSLA board at large member, TE
Finnegan<br>
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<div>I discussed the situation with Ken Moellman this
morning on the phone, and he is recommending that
Oliver Hall as LP national legal counsel (or another
attorney if anyone reading is an attorney who would
be willing to volunteer for this) should send Jeffco
elections/Barry Stephenson a letter on legal
letterhead via certified, registered mail formally
requesting the elections board to follow the
administrative rule you mention below and review the
previously submitted signatures again in light of
the evidence you have presented them with. I don't
know if the LNC will be willing to consider helping
to fund a lawsuit if the election board still
refuses to do so at that point, or if LPAL has money
for an attorney to pursue this further if the
election board continues to refuse to follow the law
after being formally notified by one of our
attorneys, but the LNC did help fund this petition
drive, so it should at least be considered. <br>
<br>
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<div>Please also let me know, in my other capacity as
a petition contractor, whether you still want to
keep paying for signatures in Jefferson County
through yourself and/or the state party, and if so
how many and at what rate. The paid portion of the
Oklahoma LP drive is over and I am weighing several
options as to where to go next, with this being one
of them. It is very unlikely to be even remotely
close to being competitive financially with the
other offers I am considering, unless something has
changed very drastically, but I am willing to
consider it anyway because it is a loose end from a
project I helped create and worked on for months
last year, and because I would like to attend my own
LP state convention on Feb 27 and would only be able
to do so if I am in that part of the country. <br>
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<div><br>
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<div>
<div>
<div>If you feel that paying for additional
signatures will not be productive at this
point, and/or don't have the funds available,
that's fine, I have plenty of other
petitioning offers, and will do what I can to
help with the legal side as in trying to find
legal help and funding regardless. <br>
<br>
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<div>If anyone else reading is willing and able
to help in any way please let us know. The
short version is that the county is refusing
to look at the evidence and is claiming our
validity is around 41% when our own checks
show it is more like around 75%. Somewhat
longer version below: <br>
<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at
4:44 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Paul,<br>
<br>
Will you forward this to everyone. It's
becoming pretty clear to me that this will not
be solved without a legal battle.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Leigh<span><br>
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Subject: RE: Libertarian petition review<br>
</span> Date: 2016-01-25 17:37<br>
From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
target="_blank">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a><br>
To: Ed Packard <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ed.packard@sos.alabama.gov"
target="_blank">ed.packard@sos.alabama.gov</a>>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">stephensonb@jccal.org</a><br>
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Ed and Barry,<br>
<br>
These were not "new" petitions. These petitions
were submitted in June 2015. (The originals of
which are on file with the Jefferson County
Probate Office). These petitions were verified
by our volunteers via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://myinfo.alabamavotes.gov"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">myinfo.alabamavotes.gov</a>.
Print outs of the signatures were determined to
be registered Jefferson County voters are
included with the copies provided to Alexandra
(See attached example).<br>
<br>
I am asking for the Board of Registrars Office
to review the voter registration data we
provided with these copies. Our reviewed
information indicates a validity rate of around
70% well above that of what was indicated by the
Board of Registrars Office. In December 2015,
we provided copies of 1,754 reviewed signatures
that were submitted in June 2015. Of the 1,754
reviewed signatures, 1,319 signatures were found
to be active Jefferson County voters with voter
details attached for each signature. At this
point 3,927 of the submitted signatures have
been reviewed via the Secretary of State website
with registered Jefferson County information
found for 3,026 signatures. This total is
already above the 2,661 signatures validated by
the Jefferson County Board of Registrars with
approximately 2,400 signatures yet to be
reviewed.<br>
<br>
As I have stated numerous times, these petitions
require additional review due to the Jefferson
County Board of Registrars practice of
automatically disqualifying signatures due to a
missing or incomplete birth date even though
Alabama Administrative Code, Rule
820-2-4-.05(3)] states "A signature shall not be
deemed invalid for lacking any portion of the
requested information if the disclosed
information is sufficient for determining the
validity of a signature." (See below for Mr.
Stephenson's email dated December 14, 2015)<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
From: "Stephenson, Barry" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stephensonb@jccal.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stephensonb@jccal.org">stephensonb@jccal.org</a></a>><br>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:35:26<br>
To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
target="_blank">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a></a>><br>
Subject: RE: Libertarian Petition Validation<br>
<br>
Ok we have processed 6,540 signatures.<br>
<br>
Of that amount we have accepted 2,661 and
rejected 3,879. We apply the same procedure to
every petition drive every time. We check for
the name, address and birth date. If the address
is different but still in the county we will
accept that person providing the birthdate
matches. In looking over what has been submitted
so far, there are some names that simply cannot
be read but the number one reason for rejection
is the birthdate not in agreement or the lack of
a birthdate.</blockquote>
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