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            <td>Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Alabama: Frankel says
              75%; govt says 41%</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
            <td>Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:50:15 -0600</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To: </th>
            <td>Wes Benedict <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"><wes.benedict@lp.org></a></td>
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        <div>Wes, slight correction. Leigh Lachine came up with the 75%
          validity estimate and has been doing a 100% check on the
          signatures and has voter IDs to go with each signature he
          verified. I have not personally checked any of them myself,
          although I collected a lot of them. I did check a lot of the
          Oklahoma signatures myself, and collected a very disappointing
          but not insignificant number. Please share. <br>
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        -p<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:40 AM, <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Attn Roland Riemers
              and Kevin Ludlow: This is relevant to the Oklahoma
              discussion in that Paul Frankel has made estimates of
              validity in Oklahoma that certainly seem reasonable, but
              there's a possibility the government will see it
              differently. Incidentally, the government did not seem to
              screw us on validity in Alabama last time we did Jefferson
              County (in 2013 I think).<br>
              <div><br>
                See Alabama discussion below.<br>
                <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
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                      <td>Re: RE: Libertarian petition review</td>
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                        valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
                      <td>Mon, 25 Jan 2016 18:53:21 -0600</td>
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                      <td><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a></td>
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                      <td>Libertarian Party of Alabama <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"><leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org></a></a>,
                        TE Finnegan <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:te.finnegan.libertarian@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank"><te.finnegan.libertarian@gmail.com></a>,
                        William Redpath <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:wredpath2@yahoo.com"
                          target="_blank"><wredpath2@yahoo.com></a>,
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gary.johnson@lp.org"
                          target="_blank">gary.johnson@lp.org</a> <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:gary.johnson@lp.org"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gary.johnson@lp.org"><gary.johnson@lp.org></a></a>,
                        Gary Johnson <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:sedition@aol.com" target="_blank"><sedition@aol.com></a>,
                        Oliver Hall <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:oliverbhall@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank"><oliverbhall@gmail.com></a>,
                        Nicholas Sarwark <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:nsarwark@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank"><nsarwark@gmail.com></a>,
                        Ken Moellman <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ken.moellman@lpky.org"
                          target="_blank"><ken.moellman@lpky.org></a>,
                        Wes Benedict <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"
                          target="_blank"><wes.benedict@lp.org></a>,
                        Carla Howell <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:carla.howell@lp.org"
                          target="_blank"><carla.howell@lp.org></a>,
                        Bob Johnston <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:bob.johnston@lp.org"
                          target="_blank"><bob.johnston@lp.org></a>,
                        Ed Marsh <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ed.marsh@lp.org" target="_blank"><ed.marsh@lp.org></a>,
                        MarkAxinn <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:markaxinn@hotmail.com"
                          target="_blank"><markaxinn@hotmail.com></a>,
                        LP-State Chairs <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:statechairs@lp.org"
                          target="_blank"><statechairs@lp.org></a>,
                        Independent Political Report <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:independent-political-report@googlegroups.com"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:independent-political-report@googlegroups.com"><independent-political-report@googlegroups.com></a></a>,
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:iprtwo@googlegroups.com"
                          target="_blank">iprtwo@googlegroups.com</a> <a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:iprtwo@googlegroups.com"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:iprtwo@googlegroups.com"><iprtwo@googlegroups.com></a></a>,
                        Richard Winger <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:richardwinger@yahoo.com"
                          target="_blank"><richardwinger@yahoo.com></a></td>
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                      <div>Leigh, I'm not sure who all you meant by
                        "everyone", so I apologize in advance if I
                        overdid it. I copied<br>
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                      -The LP national ballot access committee, which I
                      am on<br>
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                    -LP national chair Nick Sarwark<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>-Several members of LPHQ staff<br>
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                  <div>-LP state chairs, since you and I are both on the
                    LSLA board and we could conceivably add this to
                    Wednesday night's phone call agenda if you want to
                    do so and ask any state chairs who may have useful
                    advice or resources to help with this situation to
                    join us (or provide it via the email list), <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>-My fellow writers at Independent Political
                    Report<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>-LP national legal counsel, Oliver Hall<br>
                  </div>
                  <div>-Former LP state chairs Ken Moellman of KY and
                    Mark Axinn of NY, both of whom have shown a lot of
                    interest in national ballot access issues over the
                    years<br>
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                  <div>-Prospective LSLA board at large member, TE
                    Finnegan<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
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                  <div>I discussed the situation with Ken Moellman this
                    morning on the phone, and he is recommending that
                    Oliver Hall as LP national legal counsel (or another
                    attorney if anyone reading is an attorney who would
                    be willing to volunteer for this) should send Jeffco
                    elections/Barry Stephenson a letter on legal
                    letterhead via certified, registered mail formally
                    requesting the elections board to follow the
                    administrative rule you mention below and review the
                    previously submitted signatures again in light of
                    the evidence you have presented them with. I don't
                    know if the LNC will be willing to consider helping
                    to  fund a lawsuit if the election board still
                    refuses to do so at that point, or if LPAL has money
                    for an attorney to pursue this further if the
                    election board continues to refuse to follow the law
                    after being formally notified by one of our
                    attorneys, but the LNC did help fund this petition
                    drive, so it should at least be considered. <br>
                    <br>
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                  <div>Please also let me know, in my other capacity as
                    a petition contractor, whether you still want to
                    keep paying for signatures in Jefferson County
                    through yourself and/or the state party, and if so
                    how many and at what rate. The paid portion of the
                    Oklahoma LP drive is over and I am weighing several
                    options as to where to go next, with this being one
                    of them. It is very unlikely to be even remotely
                    close to being competitive financially with the
                    other offers I am considering, unless something has
                    changed very drastically, but I am willing to
                    consider it anyway because it is a loose end from a
                    project I helped create and worked on for months
                    last year, and because I would like to attend my own
                    LP state convention on Feb 27 and would only be able
                    to do so if  I am in that part of the country. <br>
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                    <div>
                      <div>
                        <div>If you feel that paying for additional
                          signatures will not be productive at this
                          point, and/or don't have the funds available,
                          that's fine, I have plenty of other
                          petitioning offers, and will do what I can to
                          help with the legal side as in trying to find
                          legal help and funding regardless. <br>
                          <br>
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                        <div>If anyone else reading is willing and able
                          to help in any way please let us know. The
                          short version is that the county is refusing
                          to look at the evidence and is claiming our
                          validity is around 41% when our own checks
                          show it is more like around 75%. Somewhat
                          longer version below: <br>
                          <br>
                          <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at
                      4:44 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a></a>></span>
                      wrote:<br>
                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0
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                        <br>
                        Will you forward this to everyone.  It's
                        becoming pretty clear to me that this will not
                        be solved without a legal battle.<br>
                        <br>
                        Thanks<br>
                        <br>
                        Leigh<span><br>
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                          Subject: RE: Libertarian petition review<br>
                        </span> Date: 2016-01-25 17:37<br>
                        From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
                          target="_blank">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a><br>
                        To: Ed Packard <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:ed.packard@sos.alabama.gov"
                          target="_blank">ed.packard@sos.alabama.gov</a>>,

                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:stephensonb@jccal.org"
                          target="_blank">stephensonb@jccal.org</a><br>
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                        Ed and Barry,<br>
                        <br>
                        These were not "new" petitions. These petitions
                        were submitted in June 2015. (The originals of
                        which are on file with the Jefferson County
                        Probate Office).  These petitions were verified
                        by our volunteers via <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="http://myinfo.alabamavotes.gov"
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">myinfo.alabamavotes.gov</a>.
                        Print outs of the signatures were determined to
                        be registered Jefferson County voters are
                        included with the copies provided to Alexandra
                        (See attached example).<br>
                        <br>
                        I am asking for the Board of Registrars Office
                        to review the voter registration data we
                        provided with these copies.  Our reviewed
                        information indicates a validity rate of around
                        70% well above that of what was indicated by the
                        Board of Registrars Office.  In December 2015,
                        we provided copies of 1,754 reviewed signatures
                        that were submitted in June 2015.  Of the 1,754
                        reviewed signatures, 1,319 signatures were found
                        to be active Jefferson County voters with voter
                        details attached for each signature.  At this
                        point 3,927 of the submitted signatures have
                        been reviewed via the Secretary of State website
                        with registered Jefferson County information
                        found for 3,026 signatures.  This total is
                        already above the 2,661 signatures validated by
                        the Jefferson County Board of Registrars with
                        approximately 2,400 signatures yet to be
                        reviewed.<br>
                        <br>
                        As I have stated numerous times, these petitions
                        require additional review due to the Jefferson
                        County Board of Registrars practice of
                        automatically disqualifying signatures due to a
                        missing or incomplete birth date even though
                        Alabama Administrative Code, Rule
                        820-2-4-.05(3)] states "A signature shall not be
                        deemed invalid for lacking any portion of the
                        requested information if the disclosed
                        information is sufficient for determining the
                        validity of a signature."    (See below for Mr.
                        Stephenson's email dated December 14, 2015)<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        From: "Stephenson, Barry" <<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:stephensonb@jccal.org"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stephensonb@jccal.org">stephensonb@jccal.org</a></a>><br>
                        Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 15:35:26<br>
                        To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
                          target="_blank">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org"
                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org">leigh.lachine@lpalabama.org</a></a>><br>
                        Subject: RE: Libertarian Petition Validation<br>
                        <br>
                        Ok we have processed 6,540 signatures.<br>
                        <br>
                        Of that amount we have accepted 2,661 and
                        rejected 3,879. We apply the same procedure to
                        every petition drive every time. We check for
                        the name, address and birth date. If the address
                        is different but still in the county we will
                        accept that person providing the birthdate
                        matches. In looking over what has been submitted
                        so far, there are some names that simply cannot
                        be read but the number one reason for rejection
                        is the birthdate not in agreement or the lack of
                        a birthdate.</blockquote>
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