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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>I am pretty sure I
have suggested this before:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Would we improve our
ROI if we paid petitioners for 50% of the sigs they turn in at the time of turn
in, and then paid them the balance based on VALID sigs? We would probably have
to pay more per “sig”, but we would only be paying for valid sigs. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>Of course, this would
increase the workload for the affiliates since they (or the National LP) would have
to associate each valid sig with a particular petitioner.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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I think some states only do a random survey and do not check all off the sigs
if we pass the random survey, so I assume that fact would have to be taken into
account.<br>
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Scott Lieberman<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Lnc-business
[mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Kevin Ludlow<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January 27, 2016
5:53 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] <st1:State
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State> petition drive</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The question was, what is required to determine if a signature is
valid? Are we not able to look people up by their voter ID provided and
determine this? It sounds like we are waiting on the OK government to
check this for us. I realize that in the end they WILL have to validate them.
But again, is there not a way to do this in advance?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>And it's frustrating that we can't have serious conversations about
money in this group. My point was very clear. Often times there is not a
benefit to paying people the minimum of what they will work for. While it might
seem a better figure to start with, often it just means you pay more in the
end. Seeing on how we were off by over 100% I merely asked if we had looked at
that. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I don't expect anyone will raise much of a brow to us having estimated
so poorly because after all, that's how it's always been done. But I thought I
would just strike up the conversation piece in hopes that someone might take an
interest in improving our situation. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Kevin <font color=black><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:black'>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a
href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>As said before:<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>3. 24,712 valid are required. The best estimates I've heard for validity
are 67%, which comes to 26,830. But valid signatures is not a number that's
knowable with certainty, even with a theoretical unlimited resources. Our
validity checkers may make different judgements than the <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Oklahoma</st1:place></st1:State> elections officials in each county.
We want plenty of extra signatures to be safe. The LNC is not paying for more
signatures, but volunteer and local efforts continue. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Also, some people read hand writing more carefully or less carefully than
others.<br>
See <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Ohio</st1:place></st1:State> for
a recent surprise issue that happened.<br>
See <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Maine</st1:place></st1:State> for
another recent surprise.<br>
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ken Moellman</st1:PersonName> gave you lots of
comments on the topic separately.<br>
The LNC Ballot Access Committee might like to give even more reasons.<br>
See <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alabama</st1:place></st1:State>
for a recent example (Paul Frankel can explain).<br>
<br>
Kevin, separately you wrote how you thought we should be spending more than
$2.50 per signature. I'm sure the LP Oklahoma can arrange that for any amounts
you donate.<br>
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Wes Benedict, Executive Director<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font size=2
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color:black'>GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On 1/27/2016 7:19 PM, Kevin Ludlow wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Could somebody explain to me why we do not have the ability to know
precisely how many verified signatures we have?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>I am absolutely certain
that in <st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texas</st1:place></st1:State>
I have access to all voter data from the state. I buy it regularly.
Given we are collecting the persons VoterID, name, and address, surely we can
verify for ourselves.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>What stops us from doing
this and what would it take to fix that? It seems awfully strange that we
guess and hope for the best.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-<font color=black><span style='color:black'>Kevin<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></font></p>
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