Starting over loses the hours of work already it in but it could be migrated to a new server which is what James suggested.<div><br></div><div>I am going to consult with James and bring a motion to get it over and done with.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you Wes, I know you are very busy and I appreciate you.<br><br>On Tuesday, June 21, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>After talking to Robert Kraus, we are recalling the L-Pedia is
hosted on the same server as LP.org. So, when security holes or
outdated software from L-Pedia causes problems, it hurts LP.org.
Giving access to the key points is a security risk for LP.org.<br>
</p>
<p>We plan to phase out the server we have for LP.org over the next
year or so, depending on how things go.</p>
<p>I suggest starting over and building a brand new L-Pedia separate
from LP.org. That's what we're going to do for LP.org. Start over
with a new website. Has to be done sometimes.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
<div>On 6/21/2016 1:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">I believe James Gholston is saying he can "fix"
it. He needs the access to do so. He can fix the LPedia spam
issue too.... but he needs access. What I am asking (and it
might be ignorant) is if there is already a sandbox for LPedia
or if one can be created (i.e. it can be walled off from other
assets) and a volunteer can take over. I don't want staff time
taken.... but I don't want the asset to be destroyed either.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What can we do to give it over to a volunteer? To either
start over, fix or whatever? That is really the answer needed
I think. When I have that information, I will pursue the
appropriate motion to make it happen..... and hopefully
involving NO other staff time other than giving the keys to a
volunteer or creating the sandbox. I am not a techie, but I
know enough to know that shouldn't be a big deal. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Or alternatively if the Party simply doesn't want this
asset anymore, we can "give" it to a volunteer or perhaps see
if LSLA wants to take it over. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Wes
Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>I think the only reason volunteers might not have been
given access is because of the security opening that
allow tons of spam. I don't recall if this is hosted
somewhere that causes it to also hurt other websites we
control. <br>
</p>
<p>I deliberately wanted L-Pedia to be a volunteer managed
site - staff has not had interest in trying to control
the content of L-Pedia since 2009. I believe a few times
the volunteers asked Eric Dixon to help trouble shoot
some things. I think that's it. <br>
</p>
<p>What might be nice is for a team (not staff) to rebuild
from scratch an L-Pedia using the technology they think
is needed, and don't even give the passwords to staff.
That would guarantee prevention of staff interference.
Unless you all think you can fix the current version
which is also fine with me.<br>
</p>
<p>We are in the middle of trying to fix some LPStore.org
issues and plan to roll out a new LP.org shortly. I
promised info on the Ohio ballot access drive to Ken
Moellman last Friday and haven't gotten it to him yet.
Have been working on hiring help and need to finish the
approvals and paperwork. I have over 200 emails in my
inbox and many require follow up work, not just reading
or forwarding. Sounds easy to delegate, but it's not
easy to delegate in a way that others don't violate our
Policy Manual and chair and LNC directives.<br>
</p>
<p>L-Pedia is near the bottom of my priorities right now.
I removed links to it from LP.org in 2010 because the
content was so bad. I hear it's improved dramatically
since then which is a good sign. <br>
</p>
<p>If you would like staff to help with L-Pedia before
updating the home page of Lp.org, and lots of other
things, that will require a directive from the chair or
LNC motion. <br>
</p>
<p>Caryn, please consult Eric Dixon, former staff member,
copied on this email, to see if he can dig up some
emails for you on this topic.</p>
<p>I'm thinking we should postpone LP.org upgrade until
after the election, given all the other stuff that keeps
coming up. Whether it's upgraded by staff, or an outside
company, either way it will take tons of staff time. <br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
<div>
<div>
<div>On 6/21/2016 9:32 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">That seems reasonable to me, but it
seems to me that there is some reason that a
volunteer was not allowed this access in the
past. Perhaps it was just because the right
person didn't ask and pursue it. Which is why I
am asking and pursuing it. Simply giving said
access seems like it would solve this issue. From
what I understand James Gholston of Texas has the
skills and desire to do this. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at
7:27 AM, Brett Bittner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brett@brettbittner.com');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brett@brettbittner.com');" target="_blank">brett@brettbittner.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">My thoughts:
<div>
<ul>
<li>I see the historical content as
valuable</li>
<li>I understand the constraints on
staff time and budget</li>
<li>We are in the midst of the 2016
election cycle</li>
<li>A termed agreement (until the end of
2016, maybe?) with a volunteer for
short term access for critical updates
this cycle (due to its high page rank)
could "band-aid" us through to allow
for consideration of staff time and $$
allocation at our December 2016
session without taking away resources
in the immediate term</li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>
<div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Brett
C. Bittner
<div><br>
</div>
<div><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','brett@brettbittner.com');" target="_blank">brett@brettbittner.com</a></div>
<div><a href="tel:404.492.6524" value="+14044926524" target="_blank">404.492.6524</a></div>
<div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>"I would rather be exposed to the
inconveniences attending too much
liberty than those attending too
small a degree of it." -- Thomas
Jefferson</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div> <br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21,
2016 at 9:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos@gmail.com');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos@gmail.com');" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Thank you David. I
am hoping for some discussion,
particularly from those who have
been here a while, on the best
route. It seems this an asset
that the Party started and let lie
fallow. From this update it seems
it is inevitable that it will be
be undone through a hack exploit
or needed software update if
something isn't done, which
requires certain server access
which the Party does not want to
give to an outside volunteer.
This presents at least these
options (and I would like to hear
more).
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. Remove it and kill it
(this is going to happen if
nothing is done, I am very
opposed to this option and am
trying to prevent it)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. Allot staff time and
budget to re-open the site for
registrations and administer it
(this has been an option all
along and not done, I presume
due to lack of budget and need
for staff time elsewhere---- if
this is possible, this seems to
be the best solution)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. Appoint and allow a
volunteer to have the necessary
server access to do number 2
(this seems to me to be the next
best option, but I presume there
are security concerns - not sure
why these could not alleviated
with vetting and agreements - a
properly vetted volunteer is no
less secure than a staff member)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4. Allow LPedia to be
transferred to an outside server
(paid for by the Party at a cost
not to exceed X dollars), retain
access, ownership, and ultimate
control of site, and appoint a
volunteer to run </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5. "Give" LPedia and all the
rights to it away to a volunteer
or perhaps see if the LSLA were
interested in taking over.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>These are options that seem
to present themselves. I do not
know which is the best of these
or other that may be added to
the list. Number 1 is
unacceptable for such a valuable
resource. I have used LPedia
quite a bit, and am one of the
few that has editing
permissions.</div>
<span>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">In
Liberty,</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">Caryn
Ann Harlos</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">Region
1 Representative </div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
Kansas, Montana, Utah,
Wyoming, Washington)</div>
</div>
</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">
<div>
<div>On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at
8:01 PM, David Demarest <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dpdemarest@centurylink.net');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dpdemarest@centurylink.net');" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div>
<div>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Caryn,
I would be happy
to co-sponsor the
motion you suggest
below.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Celebrate
Life, Set the
Bar High and
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
War on
Cronyism
Begins Now!</span></i></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">~David
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Region
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Libertarian
National Committee</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Secretary,
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Libertarian State
Central Committee</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Lnc-business
[mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn
Ann Harlos<br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday, June 20,
2016 8:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> James
Gholston <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jamesg@dimensionality.com');" target="_blank"></a><a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jamesg@dimensionality.com');" target="_blank">jamesg@dimensionality.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[Lnc-business]
L-Pedia</span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
do not recall
this being
brought up,
and this seems
like an issue
who's time for
addressing is
far overdue.
I inquired
with James
Gholston who
has been an
administrator
of accounts
there, and he
provided me
with this
information
and request.
I'd like to
get this
discussion
going, and
perhaps if
there is
interest,
speak with
some of you
about
co-sponsoring
a motion to
get this
going.</p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">====</p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">As
probably
everyone I'm
sending this
email to
knows, our
party has a
history-centric
wiki (since
2005) that has
very high
PageRank and
shows up
heavily in
searches. It
is likely the
biggest online
repository
that lists
names of
people who
have
participated
in the
Libertarian
Party (with
access to some
party data, we
could crank
out a lot of
biographical
articles).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Situation:
MediaWiki is
not designed
to be
maintained
without shell
and ftp
access, but
only paid
contractors
and staff have
this level of
access.
Meanwhile, the
LNC Staff does
not have time
to maintain <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=IAQGLgKMN" target="_blank">react-text: 196 LPedia.org /react-text </a>, and the
party doesn't
have the
resources to
pay someone to
maintain it. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What
problems do we
have that
result? Two
big ones are
visible on the
front page.
Three years
ago account
creation was
temporarily
locked down
when we were
getting more
than 100
garbage
articles and
accounts added
per minute and
it's still
temporarily
down. Also, a
needed image
permission is
broken on the
server
preventing
image uploads
while the wiki
settings
prohibit
linking to
external
images. The
really
pixellated
image of John
Hospers isn't
really an
image. It's a
table. ...And
it's roughly a
third of a
megabyte. A
PNG or JPEG
would be a
tiny fraction
of the size
and would look
far nicer, but
it hasn't been
possible to
add one of
those for a
few years.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Additional
problems: The
version of
MediaWiki
we're using is
eight years
out of date --
and that
update seven
years ago was
done by the
LNC staff
spending
money.
Extensions are
needed -- both
to add
features to
handle the
data on <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=wAQH_h6KR" target="_blank">react-text: 205 LPedia.org /react-text </a>and to
control
attacks (our
PageRank makes
us a high
value target).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Our
main tool for
controlling
attacks is a
bot that runs
on my personal
desktop
(written four
and a half
years ago when
successful
attacks were
exceeding what
could be
humanly
controlled in
a reasonable
amount of time
as a
workaround for
lack of server
access) -- and
stops running
whenever my
machine or
Internet
connectivity
are down,
allowing
garbage to
accumulate. We
have no
meaningful
extensions to
stop things (a
decade-old
CAPTCHA that's
easily
bypassed --
especially
with the
version of
MediaWiki
we're
running). With
the bot (<a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Flpedia.org%2FUser%3AWHUMP&h=mAQEXDhYU" target="_blank"> react-text: 211 </a><a href="http://lpedia.org/User:WHUMP" target="_blank">http://lpedia.org/User:WHUMP</a>
/react-text )
it's possible
to continue to
allow
anonymous
contributions
(most of our
contributions
have always
been anonymous
-- many very
substantial)
and I can bug
people for
usernames and
email
addresses and
add the
manually when
I know about
them or
personally
recruit them,
but reliance
on these steps
is not
optimal.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also,
what do we do
when a PHP or
SQL update
breaks
MediaWiki 1.12
altogether?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My
suggested fix:
Move <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=KAQGIW0iR" target="_blank">react-text: 220 LPedia.org /react-text </a>to a server
where trusted
volunteers are
allowed
under-the-hood
access. It
doesn't need
to be anything
even remotely
fancy or
expensive: A
shared hosting
DreamHost
account would
be more than
sufficient.
Additional
volunteer-maintainable
party domains
-- presently
existing or
merely
potential --
could be
hosted on the
same server
and also be
maintained by
volunteers
(and/or staff
and
contractors,
time
permitting).
The LNC staff
can retain
control when
they see a
need or find
time to
exercise it,
yet not be a
bottleneck
when there's
simply too
many things to
do, not enough
staff, and not
enough time
for even just
the
essentials. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There
are other
historical
concerns and
things that
might be
relatively
easy to do to
help the
volunteers who
participate
with <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=QAQES3Arj" target="_blank">react-text: 226 LPedia.org /react-text </a>(I'd like to
change the
default
licence to
public domain
and I'm
concerned
about the
mold/mildew
risk to our
unscanned
surviving
archival
documents
after the
basement
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