<div dir="ltr">I believe James Gholston is saying he can "fix" it. He needs the access to do so. He can fix the LPedia spam issue too.... but he needs access. What I am asking (and it might be ignorant) is if there is already a sandbox for LPedia or if one can be created (i.e. it can be walled off from other assets) and a volunteer can take over. I don't want staff time taken.... but I don't want the asset to be destroyed either. <div><br></div><div>What can we do to give it over to a volunteer? To either start over, fix or whatever? That is really the answer needed I think. When I have that information, I will pursue the appropriate motion to make it happen..... and hopefully involving NO other staff time other than giving the keys to a volunteer or creating the sandbox. I am not a techie, but I know enough to know that shouldn't be a big deal. </div><div><br></div><div>Or alternatively if the Party simply doesn't want this asset anymore, we can "give" it to a volunteer or perhaps see if LSLA wants to take it over. </div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I think the only reason volunteers might not have been given
access is because of the security opening that allow tons of spam.
I don't recall if this is hosted somewhere that causes it to also
hurt other websites we control. <br>
</p>
<p>I deliberately wanted L-Pedia to be a volunteer managed site -
staff has not had interest in trying to control the content of
L-Pedia since 2009. I believe a few times the volunteers asked
Eric Dixon to help trouble shoot some things. I think that's it. <br>
</p>
<p>What might be nice is for a team (not staff) to rebuild from
scratch an L-Pedia using the technology they think is needed, and
don't even give the passwords to staff. That would guarantee
prevention of staff interference. Unless you all think you can fix
the current version which is also fine with me.<br>
</p>
<p>We are in the middle of trying to fix some LPStore.org issues and
plan to roll out a new LP.org shortly. I promised info on the Ohio
ballot access drive to Ken Moellman last Friday and haven't gotten
it to him yet. Have been working on hiring help and need to finish
the approvals and paperwork. I have over 200 emails in my inbox
and many require follow up work, not just reading or forwarding.
Sounds easy to delegate, but it's not easy to delegate in a way
that others don't violate our Policy Manual and chair and LNC
directives.<br>
</p>
<p>L-Pedia is near the bottom of my priorities right now. I removed
links to it from LP.org in 2010 because the content was so bad. I
hear it's improved dramatically since then which is a good sign. <br>
</p>
<p>If you would like staff to help with L-Pedia before updating the
home page of Lp.org, and lots of other things, that will require a
directive from the chair or LNC motion. <br>
</p>
<p>Caryn, please consult Eric Dixon, former staff member, copied on
this email, to see if he can dig up some emails for you on this
topic.</p>
<p>I'm thinking we should postpone LP.org upgrade until after the
election, given all the other stuff that keeps coming up. Whether
it's upgraded by staff, or an outside company, either way it will
take tons of staff time. <br>
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<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
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<div>On 6/21/2016 9:32 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">That seems reasonable to me, but it seems to me
that there is some reason that a volunteer was not allowed this
access in the past. Perhaps it was just because the right
person didn't ask and pursue it. Which is why I am asking and
pursuing it. Simply giving said access seems like it would
solve this issue. From what I understand James Gholston of
Texas has the skills and desire to do this. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Brett
Bittner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brett@brettbittner.com" target="_blank">brett@brettbittner.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">My thoughts:
<div>
<ul>
<li>I see the historical content as valuable</li>
<li>I understand the constraints on staff time and
budget</li>
<li>We are in the midst of the 2016 election cycle</li>
<li>A termed agreement (until the end of 2016, maybe?)
with a volunteer for short term access for critical
updates this cycle (due to its high page rank) could
"band-aid" us through to allow for consideration of
staff time and $$ allocation at our December 2016
session without taking away resources in the
immediate term</li>
</ul>
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inconveniences attending too much liberty than
those attending too small a degree of it." --
Thomas Jefferson</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 9:13
AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Thank you David. I am hoping for
some discussion, particularly from those who
have been here a while, on the best route. It
seems this an asset that the Party started and
let lie fallow. From this update it seems it is
inevitable that it will be be undone through a
hack exploit or needed software update if
something isn't done, which requires certain
server access which the Party does not want to
give to an outside volunteer. This presents at
least these options (and I would like to hear
more).
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. Remove it and kill it (this is going to
happen if nothing is done, I am very opposed
to this option and am trying to prevent it)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>2. Allot staff time and budget to re-open
the site for registrations and administer it
(this has been an option all along and not
done, I presume due to lack of budget and need
for staff time elsewhere---- if this is
possible, this seems to be the best solution)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>3. Appoint and allow a volunteer to have
the necessary server access to do number 2
(this seems to me to be the next best option,
but I presume there are security concerns -
not sure why these could not alleviated with
vetting and agreements - a properly vetted
volunteer is no less secure than a staff
member)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>4. Allow LPedia to be transferred to an
outside server (paid for by the Party at a
cost not to exceed X dollars), retain access,
ownership, and ultimate control of site, and
appoint a volunteer to run </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>5. "Give" LPedia and all the rights to it
away to a volunteer or perhaps see if the LSLA
were interested in taking over.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>These are options that seem to present
themselves. I do not know which is the best
of these or other that may be added to the
list. Number 1 is unacceptable for such a
valuable resource. I have used LPedia quite a
bit, and am one of the few that has editing
permissions.</div>
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<div style="font-size:12.8px">Caryn Ann
Harlos</div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">Region 1
Representative </div>
<div style="font-size:12.8px">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)</div>
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<div>On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at 8:01 PM, David
Demarest <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>></span>
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I would be happy to co-sponsor
the motion you suggest below.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann
Harlos<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 20,
2016 8:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> James Gholston <<a href="mailto:jamesg@dimensionality.com" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:jamesg@dimensionality.com" target="_blank">jamesg@dimensionality.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Lnc-business]
L-Pedia</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I do not
recall this being brought
up, and this seems like an
issue who's time for
addressing is far overdue.
I inquired with James
Gholston who has been an
administrator of accounts
there, and he provided me
with this information and
request. I'd like to get
this discussion going, and
perhaps if there is
interest, speak with some of
you about co-sponsoring a
motion to get this going.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">====</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As
probably everyone I'm
sending this email to knows,
our party has a
history-centric wiki (since
2005) that has very high
PageRank and shows up
heavily in searches. It is
likely the biggest online
repository that lists names
of people who have
participated in the
Libertarian Party (with
access to some party data,
we could crank out a lot of
biographical articles).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Situation:
MediaWiki is not designed to
be maintained without shell
and ftp access, but only
paid contractors and staff
have this level of access.
Meanwhile, the LNC Staff
does not have time to
maintain <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=IAQGLgKMN" target="_blank">react-text:
196 LPedia.org /react-text
</a>, and the party doesn't
have the resources to pay
someone to maintain it. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">What
problems do we have that
result? Two big ones are
visible on the front page.
Three years ago account
creation was temporarily
locked down when we were
getting more than 100
garbage articles and
accounts added per minute
and it's still temporarily
down. Also, a needed image
permission is broken on the
server preventing image
uploads while the wiki
settings prohibit linking to
external images. The really
pixellated image of John
Hospers isn't really an
image. It's a table. ...And
it's roughly a third of a
megabyte. A PNG or JPEG
would be a tiny fraction of
the size and would look far
nicer, but it hasn't been
possible to add one of those
for a few years.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Additional
problems: The version of
MediaWiki we're using is
eight years out of date --
and that update seven years
ago was done by the LNC
staff spending money.
Extensions are needed --
both to add features to
handle the data on <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=wAQH_h6KR" target="_blank">react-text:
205 LPedia.org /react-text
</a>and to control attacks
(our PageRank makes us a
high value target).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Our main
tool for controlling attacks
is a bot that runs on my
personal desktop (written
four and a half years ago
when successful attacks were
exceeding what could be
humanly controlled in a
reasonable amount of time as
a workaround for lack of
server access) -- and stops
running whenever my machine
or Internet connectivity are
down, allowing garbage to
accumulate. We have no
meaningful extensions to
stop things (a decade-old
CAPTCHA that's easily
bypassed -- especially with
the version of MediaWiki
we're running). With the bot
(<a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Flpedia.org%2FUser%3AWHUMP&h=mAQEXDhYU" target="_blank">
react-text: 211
http://lpedia.org/User:WHUMP
/react-text </a>) it's
possible to continue to
allow anonymous
contributions (most of our
contributions have always
been anonymous -- many very
substantial) and I can bug
people for usernames and
email addresses and add the
manually when I know about
them or personally recruit
them, but reliance on these
steps is not optimal.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Also,
what do we do when a PHP or
SQL update breaks MediaWiki
1.12 altogether?</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">My
suggested fix: Move <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=KAQGIW0iR" target="_blank">react-text:
220 LPedia.org /react-text
</a>to a server where
trusted volunteers are
allowed under-the-hood
access. It doesn't need to
be anything even remotely
fancy or expensive: A shared
hosting DreamHost account
would be more than
sufficient. Additional
volunteer-maintainable party
domains -- presently
existing or merely potential
-- could be hosted on the
same server and also be
maintained by volunteers
(and/or staff and
contractors, time
permitting). The LNC staff
can retain control when they
see a need or find time to
exercise it, yet not be a
bottleneck when there's
simply too many things to
do, not enough staff, and
not enough time for even
just the essentials. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">There
are other historical
concerns and things that
might be relatively easy
to do to help the
volunteers who participate
with <a href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=QAQES3Arj" target="_blank">react-text:
226 LPedia.org
/react-text </a>(I'd
like to change the default
licence to public domain
and I'm concerned about
the mold/mildew risk to
our unscanned surviving
archival documents after
the basement flood), but
let me focus on just this
one thing right now.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">======= </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">I
have cc'd James on this
message so he can keep
track and feed me
relevant information. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Region 1 Representative </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington)</span></p>
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