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    <p>After talking to Robert Kraus, we are recalling the L-Pedia is
      hosted on the same server as LP.org. So, when security holes or
      outdated software from L-Pedia causes problems, it hurts LP.org.
      Giving access to the key points is a security risk for LP.org.<br>
    </p>
    <p>We plan to phase out the server we have for LP.org over the next
      year or so, depending on how things go.</p>
    <p>I suggest starting over and building a brand new L-Pedia separate
      from LP.org. That's what we're going to do for LP.org. Start over
      with a new website. Has to be done sometimes.</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/21/2016 1:24 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAL4U=_p0Knbu5Pk_OVrmJev7S7-D3DcJa5AqpObs3daPkBm_Vg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I believe James Gholston is saying he can "fix"
        it.  He needs the access to do so.  He can fix the LPedia spam
        issue too.... but he needs access.  What I am asking (and it
        might be ignorant) is if there is already a sandbox for LPedia
        or if one can be created (i.e. it can be walled off from other
        assets) and a volunteer can take over.  I don't want staff time
        taken.... but I don't want the asset to be destroyed either.  
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>What can we do to give it over to a volunteer?  To either
          start over, fix or whatever?  That is really the answer needed
          I think.  When I have that information, I will pursue the
          appropriate motion to make it happen..... and hopefully
          involving NO other staff time other than giving the keys to a
          volunteer or creating the sandbox.  I am not a techie, but I
          know enough to know that shouldn't be a big deal.  </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Or alternatively if the Party simply doesn't want this
          asset anymore, we can "give" it to a volunteer or perhaps see
          if LSLA wants to take it over.  </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 11:17 AM, Wes
          Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <p>I think the only reason volunteers might not have been
                given access is because of the security opening that
                allow tons of spam. I don't recall if this is hosted
                somewhere that causes it to also hurt other websites we
                control. <br>
              </p>
              <p>I deliberately wanted L-Pedia to be a volunteer managed
                site - staff has not had interest in trying to control
                the content of L-Pedia since 2009. I believe a few times
                the volunteers asked Eric Dixon to help trouble shoot
                some things. I think that's it. <br>
              </p>
              <p>What might be nice is for a team (not staff) to rebuild
                from scratch an L-Pedia using the technology they think
                is needed, and don't even give the passwords to staff.
                That would guarantee prevention of staff interference.
                Unless you all think you can fix the current version
                which is also fine with me.<br>
              </p>
              <p>We are in the middle of trying to fix some LPStore.org
                issues and plan to roll out a new LP.org shortly. I
                promised info on the Ohio ballot access drive to Ken
                Moellman last Friday and haven't gotten it to him yet.
                Have been working on hiring help and need to finish the
                approvals and paperwork. I have over 200 emails in my
                inbox and many require follow up work, not just reading
                or forwarding. Sounds easy to delegate, but it's not
                easy to delegate in a way that others don't violate our
                Policy Manual and chair and LNC directives.<br>
              </p>
              <p>L-Pedia is near the bottom of my priorities right now.
                I removed links to it from LP.org in 2010 because the
                content was so bad. I hear it's improved dramatically
                since then which is a good sign. <br>
              </p>
              <p>If you would like staff to help with L-Pedia before
                updating the home page of Lp.org, and lots of other
                things, that will require a directive from the chair or
                LNC motion. <br>
              </p>
              <p>Caryn, please consult Eric Dixon, former staff member,
                copied on this email, to see if he can dig up some
                emails for you on this topic.</p>
              <p>I'm thinking we should postpone LP.org upgrade until
                after the election, given all the other stuff that keeps
                coming up. Whether it's upgraded by staff, or an outside
                company, either way it will take tons of staff time. <br>
              </p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <div>On 6/21/2016 9:32 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">That seems reasonable to me, but it
                      seems to me that there is some reason that a
                      volunteer was not allowed this access in the
                      past.  Perhaps it was just because the right
                      person didn't ask and pursue it.  Which is why I
                      am asking and pursuing it.  Simply giving said
                      access seems like it would solve this issue.  From
                      what I understand James Gholston of Texas has the
                      skills and desire to do this.  </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at
                        7:27 AM, Brett Bittner <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:brett@brettbittner.com"
                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:brett@brettbittner.com">brett@brettbittner.com</a></a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">My thoughts:
                            <div>
                              <ul>
                                <li>I see the historical content as
                                  valuable</li>
                                <li>I understand the constraints on
                                  staff time and budget</li>
                                <li>We are in the midst of the 2016
                                  election cycle</li>
                                <li>A termed agreement (until the end of
                                  2016, maybe?) with a volunteer for
                                  short term access for critical updates
                                  this cycle (due to its high page rank)
                                  could "band-aid" us through to allow
                                  for consideration of staff time and $$
                                  allocation at our December 2016
                                  session without taking away resources
                                  in the immediate term</li>
                              </ul>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                            <div>
                              <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Brett
                                C. Bittner
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:brett@brettbittner.com"
                                    target="_blank">brett@brettbittner.com</a></div>
                                <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="tel:404.492.6524"
                                    value="+14044926524" target="_blank">404.492.6524</a></div>
                                <div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>"I would rather be exposed to the
                                    inconveniences attending too much
                                    liberty than those attending too
                                    small a degree of it." -- Thomas
                                    Jefferson</div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div> <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 21,
                                  2016 at 9:13 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com"
                                      target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a></a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Thank you David.  I
                                      am hoping for some discussion,
                                      particularly from those who have
                                      been here a while, on the best
                                      route.  It seems this an asset
                                      that the Party started and let lie
                                      fallow.  From this update it seems
                                      it is inevitable that it will be
                                      be undone through a hack exploit
                                      or needed software update if
                                      something isn't done, which
                                      requires certain server access
                                      which the Party does not want to
                                      give to an outside volunteer. 
                                      This presents at least these
                                      options (and I would like to hear
                                      more).
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>1.  Remove it and kill it
                                        (this is going to happen if
                                        nothing is done, I am very
                                        opposed to this option and am
                                        trying to prevent it)</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>2. Allot staff time and
                                        budget to re-open the site for
                                        registrations and administer it
                                        (this has been an option all
                                        along and not done, I presume
                                        due to lack of budget and need
                                        for staff time elsewhere---- if
                                        this is possible, this seems to
                                        be the best solution)</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>3.  Appoint and allow a
                                        volunteer to have the necessary
                                        server access to do number 2
                                        (this seems to me to be the next
                                        best option, but I presume there
                                        are security concerns - not sure
                                        why these could not alleviated
                                        with vetting and agreements - a
                                        properly vetted volunteer is no
                                        less secure than a staff member)</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>4. Allow LPedia to be
                                        transferred to an outside server
                                        (paid for by the Party at a cost
                                        not to exceed X dollars), retain
                                        access, ownership, and ultimate
                                        control of site, and appoint a
                                        volunteer to run </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>5. "Give" LPedia and all the
                                        rights to it away to a volunteer
                                        or perhaps see if the LSLA were
                                        interested in taking over.</div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>These are options that seem
                                        to present themselves.  I do not
                                        know which is the best of these
                                        or other that may be added to
                                        the list.  Number 1 is
                                        unacceptable for such a valuable
                                        resource.  I have used LPedia
                                        quite a bit, and am one of the
                                        few that has editing
                                        permissions.</div>
                                      <span>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">In
                                            Liberty,</div>
                                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Caryn
                                            Ann Harlos</div>
                                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">Region
                                            1 Representative </div>
                                          <div style="font-size:12.8px">(Alaska,
                                            Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                            Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                            Wyoming, Washington)</div>
                                        </div>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>
                                          <div>On Mon, Jun 20, 2016 at
                                            8:01 PM, David Demarest <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net"
                                                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a></a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Caryn,
                                                      I would be happy
                                                      to co-sponsor the
                                                      motion you suggest
                                                      below.</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Celebrate
                                                          Life, Set the
                                                          Bar High and
                                                          LIVE FREE!</span></i></b><b><i><span
style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></i></b></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></i></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">The
                                                          War on
                                                          Cronyism
                                                          Begins Now!</span></i></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">~David
                                                      Pratt Demarest</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Region
                                                      6 Representative,
                                                      Libertarian
                                                      National Committee</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Secretary,
                                                      Nebraska
                                                      Libertarian State
                                                      Central Committee</span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:David.Demarest@LP.org"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:David.Demarest@LP.org">David.Demarest@LP.org</a></a>
                                                    </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Secretary@LPNE.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Secretary@LPNE.org">Secretary@LPNE.org</a></a></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:DPDemarest@centurylink.net"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:DPDemarest@centurylink.net">DPDemarest@centurylink.net</a></a>
                                                    </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:David.Demarest@firstdata.com"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:David.Demarest@firstdata.com">David.Demarest@firstdata.com</a></a></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.LP.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LP.org">http://www.LP.org</a></a> 
                                                    </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.LPNE.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LPNE.org">http://www.LPNE.org</a></a></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cell:
                                                            <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:402-981-6469" value="+14029816469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Home:
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:402-493-0873" value="+14024930873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Office:
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:402-222-7207" value="+14022227207" target="_blank">402-222-7207</a></span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                                                      Lnc-business
                                                      [mailto:<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a></a>]
                                                      <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn
                                                      Ann Harlos<br>
                                                      <b>Sent:</b>
                                                      Monday, June 20,
                                                      2016 8:09 PM<br>
                                                      <b>To:</b> <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a></a><br>
                                                      <b>Cc:</b> James
                                                      Gholston <<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jamesg@dimensionality.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jamesg@dimensionality.com">jamesg@dimensionality.com</a></a>><br>
                                                      <b>Subject:</b>
                                                      [Lnc-business]
                                                      L-Pedia</span></p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          do not recall
                                                          this being
                                                          brought up,
                                                          and this seems
                                                          like an issue
                                                          who's time for
                                                          addressing is
                                                          far overdue. 
                                                          I inquired
                                                          with James
                                                          Gholston who
                                                          has been an
                                                          administrator
                                                          of accounts
                                                          there, and he
                                                          provided me
                                                          with this
                                                          information
                                                          and request.  
                                                          I'd like to
                                                          get this
                                                          discussion
                                                          going, and
                                                          perhaps if
                                                          there is
                                                          interest,
                                                          speak with
                                                          some of you
                                                          about
                                                          co-sponsoring
                                                          a motion to
                                                          get this
                                                          going.</p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">====</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">As
                                                          probably
                                                          everyone I'm
                                                          sending this
                                                          email to
                                                          knows, our
                                                          party has a
                                                          history-centric
                                                          wiki (since
                                                          2005) that has
                                                          very high
                                                          PageRank and
                                                          shows up
                                                          heavily in
                                                          searches. It
                                                          is likely the
                                                          biggest online
                                                          repository
                                                          that lists
                                                          names of
                                                          people who
                                                          have
                                                          participated
                                                          in the
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party (with
                                                          access to some
                                                          party data, we
                                                          could crank
                                                          out a lot of
                                                          biographical
                                                          articles).</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Situation:
                                                          MediaWiki is
                                                          not designed
                                                          to be
                                                          maintained
                                                          without shell
                                                          and ftp
                                                          access, but
                                                          only paid
                                                          contractors
                                                          and staff have
                                                          this level of
                                                          access.
                                                          Meanwhile, the
                                                          LNC Staff does
                                                          not have time
                                                          to maintain <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=IAQGLgKMN"
target="_blank">react-text: 196 LPedia.org /react-text </a>, and the
                                                          party doesn't
                                                          have the
                                                          resources to
                                                          pay someone to
                                                          maintain it. </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">What
                                                          problems do we
                                                          have that
                                                          result? Two
                                                          big ones are
                                                          visible on the
                                                          front page.
                                                          Three years
                                                          ago account
                                                          creation was
                                                          temporarily
                                                          locked down
                                                          when we were
                                                          getting more
                                                          than 100
                                                          garbage
                                                          articles and
                                                          accounts added
                                                          per minute and
                                                          it's still
                                                          temporarily
                                                          down. Also, a
                                                          needed image
                                                          permission is
                                                          broken on the
                                                          server
                                                          preventing
                                                          image uploads
                                                          while the wiki
                                                          settings
                                                          prohibit
                                                          linking to
                                                          external
                                                          images. The
                                                          really
                                                          pixellated
                                                          image of John
                                                          Hospers isn't
                                                          really an
                                                          image. It's a
                                                          table. ...And
                                                          it's roughly a
                                                          third of a
                                                          megabyte. A
                                                          PNG or JPEG
                                                          would be a
                                                          tiny fraction
                                                          of the size
                                                          and would look
                                                          far nicer, but
                                                          it hasn't been
                                                          possible to
                                                          add one of
                                                          those for a
                                                          few years.</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Additional
                                                          problems: The
                                                          version of
                                                          MediaWiki
                                                          we're using is
                                                          eight years
                                                          out of date --
                                                          and that
                                                          update seven
                                                          years ago was
                                                          done by the
                                                          LNC staff
                                                          spending
                                                          money.
                                                          Extensions are
                                                          needed -- both
                                                          to add
                                                          features to
                                                          handle the
                                                          data on <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=wAQH_h6KR"
target="_blank">react-text: 205 LPedia.org /react-text </a>and to
                                                          control
                                                          attacks (our
                                                          PageRank makes
                                                          us a high
                                                          value target).</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Our
                                                          main tool for
                                                          controlling
                                                          attacks is a
                                                          bot that runs
                                                          on my personal
                                                          desktop
                                                          (written four
                                                          and a half
                                                          years ago when
                                                          successful
                                                          attacks were
                                                          exceeding what
                                                          could be
                                                          humanly
                                                          controlled in
                                                          a reasonable
                                                          amount of time
                                                          as a
                                                          workaround for
                                                          lack of server
                                                          access) -- and
                                                          stops running
                                                          whenever my
                                                          machine or
                                                          Internet
                                                          connectivity
                                                          are down,
                                                          allowing
                                                          garbage to
                                                          accumulate. We
                                                          have no
                                                          meaningful
                                                          extensions to
                                                          stop things (a
                                                          decade-old
                                                          CAPTCHA that's
                                                          easily
                                                          bypassed --
                                                          especially
                                                          with the
                                                          version of
                                                          MediaWiki
                                                          we're
                                                          running). With
                                                          the bot (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Flpedia.org%2FUser%3AWHUMP&h=mAQEXDhYU"
target="_blank"> react-text: 211 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lpedia.org/User:WHUMP">http://lpedia.org/User:WHUMP</a>
                                                          /react-text </a>)
                                                          it's possible
                                                          to continue to
                                                          allow
                                                          anonymous
                                                          contributions
                                                          (most of our
                                                          contributions
                                                          have always
                                                          been anonymous
                                                          -- many very
                                                          substantial)
                                                          and I can bug
                                                          people for
                                                          usernames and
                                                          email
                                                          addresses and
                                                          add the
                                                          manually when
                                                          I know about
                                                          them or
                                                          personally
                                                          recruit them,
                                                          but reliance
                                                          on these steps
                                                          is not
                                                          optimal.</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">Also,
                                                          what do we do
                                                          when a PHP or
                                                          SQL update
                                                          breaks
                                                          MediaWiki 1.12
                                                          altogether?</p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">My
                                                          suggested fix:
                                                          Move <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=KAQGIW0iR"
target="_blank">react-text: 220 LPedia.org /react-text </a>to a server
                                                          where trusted
                                                          volunteers are
                                                          allowed
                                                          under-the-hood
                                                          access. It
                                                          doesn't need
                                                          to be anything
                                                          even remotely
                                                          fancy or
                                                          expensive: A
                                                          shared hosting
                                                          DreamHost
                                                          account would
                                                          be more than
                                                          sufficient.
                                                          Additional
                                                          volunteer-maintainable
                                                          party domains
                                                          -- presently
                                                          existing or
                                                          merely
                                                          potential --
                                                          could be
                                                          hosted on the
                                                          same server
                                                          and also be
                                                          maintained by
                                                          volunteers
                                                          (and/or staff
                                                          and
                                                          contractors,
                                                          time
                                                          permitting).
                                                          The LNC staff
                                                          can retain
                                                          control when
                                                          they see a
                                                          need or find
                                                          time to
                                                          exercise it,
                                                          yet not be a
                                                          bottleneck
                                                          when there's
                                                          simply too
                                                          many things to
                                                          do, not enough
                                                          staff, and not
                                                          enough time
                                                          for even just
                                                          the
                                                          essentials. </p>
                                                        <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">There
                                                          are other
                                                          historical
                                                          concerns and
                                                          things that
                                                          might be
                                                          relatively
                                                          easy to do to
                                                          help the
                                                          volunteers who
                                                          participate
                                                          with <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2FLPedia.org%2F&h=QAQES3Arj"
target="_blank">react-text: 226 LPedia.org /react-text </a>(I'd like to
                                                          change the
                                                          default
                                                          licence to
                                                          public domain
                                                          and I'm
                                                          concerned
                                                          about the
                                                          mold/mildew
                                                          risk to our
                                                          unscanned
                                                          surviving
                                                          archival
                                                          documents
                                                          after the
                                                          basement
                                                          flood), but
                                                          let me focus
                                                          on just this
                                                          one thing
                                                          right now.</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">======= </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          have cc'd
                                                          James on this
                                                          message so he
                                                          can keep track
                                                          and feed me
                                                          relevant
                                                          information.  </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal">--
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">In Liberty,</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">Region 1 Representative </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington)</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p
                                                          class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:9.5pt"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                          href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org"
target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org</a></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                    </div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <br>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
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                                            href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org"
                                            target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org"
                                            rel="noreferrer"
                                            target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                          <br>
                                        </blockquote>
                                      </div>
                                      <span><br>
                                        <br clear="all">
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                        -- <br>
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                                          data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
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                                                    <div
                                                      style="font-size:12.8px">In
                                                      Liberty,</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="font-size:12.8px">Caryn
                                                      Ann Harlos</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="font-size:12.8px">Region
                                                      1 Representative </div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="font-size:12.8px">(Alaska,
                                                      Arizona, Colorado,
                                                      Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                      Montana, Utah,
                                                      Wyoming,
                                                      Washington)</div>
                                                    <div
                                                      style="font-size:12.8px"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org">Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org</a></a></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </span></div>
                                    <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                    Lnc-business mailing list<br>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org"
                                      target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                    <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org"
                                      rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                    <br>
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                                </div>
                                <br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                          Lnc-business mailing list<br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org"
                            target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org"
                            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
                          <br>
                        </blockquote>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <br clear="all">
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      -- <br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">
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                                  <div style="font-size:12.8px">In
                                    Liberty,</div>
                                  <div style="font-size:12.8px">Caryn
                                    Ann Harlos</div>
                                  <div style="font-size:12.8px">Region 1
                                    Representative </div>
                                  <div style="font-size:12.8px">(Alaska,
                                    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                    Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)</div>
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