Sam,<div><br></div><div>If no one gives a damn, then that info shouldn't be included.</div><div><br></div><div>I give a damn and as a member I gave a damn.  I received an email from a member during this discussion who also gives a damn.</div><div><br></div>Reminds me of my tour guide at Hoover Dam.  Leave the dam facts to the dam professionals.<span></span><br><div><br></div><div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In Liberty,</font></b></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div></div><div><font size="2"><br></font></div><div><br>On Saturday, August 6, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <p>A sub-committee of the LNC designed this system, and then the
      entire LNC adopted the system. I'm 200 emails behind on other
      things so I'm going to ask if some of the LNC reps who were around
      when the system was adopted can explain the details and answer
      some of the detailed questions about what are on the reports. I
      can do more of that once I catch up on things. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I made one serious effort to try to explain the LNC's membership
      plan to our members on page 15 of this LP News: <br>
    </p>
    <p><a href="http://www.lp.org/files/lp_news/2014-4_LP_News.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lp.org/files/lp_<wbr>news/2014-4_LP_News.pdf</a></p>
    <p>Learning what the rules in the Policy Manual meant well enough so
      that I could put them in writing in my own words was probably a
      40-hour process. <br>
    </p>
    <p>I'll let the rest of the LNC take it from here. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Aaron Starr did not design this system, but I've found he's
      particularly good at explaining some of the ins and outs, so if he
      happens to be available to answer these tough questions, that
      would be great. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks,<br>
    </p>
    <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div>On 8/6/2016 11:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Thank you Wes, that was clear and straightforward.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It seems to me that this "active mem" number is not
          terribly meaningful then for the membership report.  A member
          said to me that this also might include some "lifetime donors"
          that get benefits but are not accorded BSM membership under
          some old scheme.  Is this correct?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I know to some people this seems hopelessly pedantic.  I am
          a paralegal.  I am hopelessly pedantic.  It is my super
          power.  But at least you know I truly examined this document.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>
          <div><font size="2"><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">In Liberty,</b></font></div>
          <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1
                Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
                Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                  Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications
                Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                  Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div>
          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado
                State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                  Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Wes
          Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <p>If John signed the pledge and paid dues on 1/1/2015,
                then, at that point, their "Active Membership" and
                "Sustaining Membership" both expire on 1/1/2016.</p>
              <p>We start sending renewal letters and renewal emails
                before people's memberships expire.</p>
              <p>If John renews his dues on 11/1/2015 (2 months before
                his expiration date), then his "Active Membership" is
                extended to 1/1/2017 (per the policy manual), but his
                "Sustaining Membership" will expire 11/1/2016 (per the
                bylaws).<br>
              </p>
              <p>The above kind of thing is one example of how the two
                sets of numbers can vary--sometimes records aren't 100%
                complete updated right when a report is run as well. And
                sometimes errors are made.<br>
              </p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
              <div>On 8/6/2016 10:52 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">Wes, yes please!
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I am asking members and no one seems to
                    understand this.</div>
                </div>
                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 8:50
                    AM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                        <p>Cary, do you want me to answer this
                          question?  <br>
                        </p>
                        <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','wes.benedict@lp.org');" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
                        <div>On 8/6/2016 10:37 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
                          wrote:<br>
                        </div>
                        <blockquote type="cite">
                          <div dir="ltr">Well you couldn't have signed
                            the Pledge in 1971 since it wasn't around
                            then ;)
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>But I am still confused by your
                              example.  Maybe here is the better
                              question to help me.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>What does one have to do to have
                              "member benefits" that are not
                              co-extensive with BSM?  Because it says
                              "active mems" have signed the Pledge.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Does this just mean a contribution
                              under $25?</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>How can you be an active pledge-signer
                              member (for active mem) and not be a BSM? 
                              The only way I can see that is if one gave
                              less than $25.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <div><font size="2"><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">In
                                    Liberty,</b></font></div>
                              <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
                              <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region
                                    1 Representative, Libertarian
                                    National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
                                    Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
                                    Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                                      Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
                              <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications
                                    Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
                                      of Colorado</a></span></font></div>
                              <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado
                                    State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
                                      Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016
                              at 8:28 AM, Robert Kraus <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robert.kraus@lp.org');" target="_blank">robert.kraus@lp.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                <div link="blue" vlink="blue" lang="EN-US">
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">I
                                          amy have signed the NAP in
                                          1971. Doesn’t matter when I
                                          signed the NAP or if I signed
                                          the NAP ( for my active
                                          membership benefits expire
                                          date).</span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">But
                                          in this example the ONLY thing
                                          the bylaws care about is that
                                          I contributed $25 within the
                                          last year.</span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Thus
                                          the last time I did this was
                                          $25 on 07/01/15 thus I am no
                                          longer a BSM as of 07/01/16.</span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Now
                                          on the “membership benefits
                                          side” – which the Policy
                                          Manual dictates – I get my
                                          “benefits” expire date updated
                                          by 12 months from my previous
                                          date. So if my previous expire
                                          date was 08/30/15 and I
                                          renewed early on 07/01/15 my
                                          new expire date is 08/30/16.
                                          Thus you can say my BSM ended
                                          on 07/01/16 yet my ?membership
                                          benefits” expire date ends on
                                          08/30/16.</span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">My
                                          BSM would not end on 08/30/16
                                          simply because that would
                                          violate the bylaws since I had
                                          not given since 07/01/15.</span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Keep
                                          in mind it really doesn’t
                                          matter when your BSM “ends”
                                          except for counts for
                                          delegates 6 months pior to a
                                          convention or your status on
                                          the LNC or JC which requires
                                          you to be a BSM.</span></font></p>
                                    <span>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Live
                                              Free!</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">​​​​</span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><em><b><i><font face="Freestyle
                                                  Script" color="navy" size="6"><span>Robert</span></font></i></b></em><b><i><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                </span></font></i></b><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"></span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Robert
                                              S. Kraus - Dir of
                                              Operations<br>
                                              <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Operations@LP.org');" target="_blank">Operations@LP.org</a><br>
                                              Libertarian National
                                              Committee<br>
                                              Ph: <a href="tel:202.333.0008%20x%20231" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">202.333.0008
                                                x 231</a></span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Join
                                              today: <a href="https://www.lp.org/membership" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/membership</a></span></font></p>
                                        <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">LP
                                              FB Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/liber<wbr>tarians</a>
                                            </span></font></p>
                                      </div>
                                    </span>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
                                            Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@h<wbr>q.lp.org</a>]
                                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                                Behalf Of </span></b>Caryn
                                            Ann Harlos<br>
                                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                            Saturday, August 06, 2016
                                            10:16 AM</span></font></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <div><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><br>
                                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                            <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                            <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                            Re: [Lnc-business] Newbie
                                            question - Membership Report</font></div>
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                                    <div>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Ahh
                                                okay (you messed up a
                                                date in there, I think
                                                you meant 7/1/16 in the
                                                example of BSM
                                                expiring).  Is that
                                                number even meaningful
                                                for membership stats? 
                                                It is really terribly
                                                confusing.</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It
                                                  seems in most cases
                                                  that the two dates
                                                  would be concurrent.</span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">So
                                                  in your above example,
                                                  you had "membership
                                                  benefits" due to
                                                  paying some money
                                                  around 8/30/14 prior
                                                  to agreeing with the
                                                  NAP which was done on
                                                  7/1/15.  Because if
                                                  you had agreed with
                                                  the NAP and paid money
                                                  on 8/30/14 and renewed
                                                  early on 7/1/15, your
                                                  BSM membership would
                                                  still go through
                                                  8/30/16, correct?  </span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Am
                                                  I understanding this
                                                  now?  If I am, I am
                                                  going to write up a
                                                  mini-article on this
                                                  to explain it to
                                                  others.  I cannot be
                                                  the only one
                                                  confounded by this, no
                                                  one just wasn't
                                                  obsessed enough to
                                                  pursue an answer since
                                                  the numbers were
                                                  negligible.</span></font></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold">In Liberty,</span></font></b></p>
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                                            <div>
                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-weight:bold">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></font></b></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Region
                                                    1 Representative,
                                                    Libertarian National
                                                    Committee (Alaska,
                                                    Arizona, Colorado,
                                                    Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                    Montana, Utah,
                                                    Wyoming, Washington)
                                                    - Caryn.Ann. <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Harlos@LP.org');" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></p>
                                            </div>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Communications
                                                    Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                                                      Colorado</a></span></font></p>
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                                              <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Colorado</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
                                                    State</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">
                                                    Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
                                                      Radical Caucus</a></span></font></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On
                                                  Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at
                                                  8:06 AM, Robert Kraus
                                                  <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','robert.kraus@lp.org');" target="_blank">robert.kraus@lp.org</a>>
                                                  wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Sorry
                                                      meant I would be a
                                                      BSM until
                                                      07/01/2016 not 15.</span></font></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma">
                                                        Lnc-business
                                                        [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@h<wbr>q.lp.org</a>]
                                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                                          Behalf Of </span></b>Robert
                                                        Kraus<br>
                                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                                        Saturday, August
                                                        06, 2016 10:05
                                                        AM<br>
                                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                                        <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                                        <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                                        Re:
                                                        [Lnc-business]
                                                        Newbie question
                                                        - Membership
                                                        Report</span></font></p>
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New
                                                    Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Simple
                                                      explanation: BSM
                                                      (Sustaining
                                                      Membership) is per
                                                      the bylaws which
                                                      basically says you
                                                      are a sustaining
                                                      member if you
                                                      contribute a total
                                                      of $25 within a
                                                      year and agree to
                                                      the NAP</span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Example
                                                      – I agree with the
                                                      NAP and paid $25
                                                      for anything on
                                                      07/01/2015 thus I
                                                      was a “BSM” until
                                                      07/01/2015 (I am
                                                      no longer a “BSM”
                                                      in this example)</span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">The
                                                      “Active” (doesn’t
                                                      matter Mem or Sub)
                                                      part is dictated
                                                      by the policy
                                                      manual and relates
                                                      to “membership
                                                      benefits” like LP
                                                      News. For example
                                                      I paid $25 on
                                                      07/01/15 to renew
                                                      my “active
                                                      membership” but my
                                                      benefits did not
                                                      expire until
                                                      08/30/15. In other
                                                      words in this
                                                      example I renewed
                                                      early. According
                                                      to our rules my
                                                      “expire” date for
                                                      “membership
                                                      benefits” would be
                                                      extended by one
                                                      year. Thus my new
                                                      “active membership
                                                      expire date” is
                                                      08/30/16. So I am
                                                      “active” until the
                                                      end of this month
                                                      even though I am
                                                      no longer a BSM. </span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">So
                                                      if I come from the
                                                      state of PR and am
                                                      the only “active”
                                                      member – my state
                                                      will show zero (0)
                                                      for BSM and one
                                                      (1) for MEM.</span></font></p>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Live
                                                        Free!</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">​​​​</span></font></p>
                                                  <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="1"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                                  <p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><em><b><i><font face="Freestyle Script" color="navy" size="6"><span>Robert</span></font></i></b></em></p>
                                                  <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Robert
                                                        S. Kraus - Dir
                                                        of Operations<br>
                                                        <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Operations@LP.org');" target="_blank">Operations@LP.org</a><br>
                                                        Libertarian
                                                        National
                                                        Committee<br>
                                                        Ph: <a href="tel:202.333.0008%20x%20231" target="_blank">202.333.0008 x 231</a></span></font></p>
                                                  <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"> </span></font></p>
                                                  <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Join
                                                        today: <a href="https://www.lp.org/membership" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/membership</a></span></font></p>
                                                  <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">LP
                                                        FB Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/liber<wbr>tarians</a>
                                                      </span></font></p>
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@h<wbr>q.lp.org</a>]
                                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On
                                                          Behalf Of </span></b>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos<br>
                                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                                                          Saturday,
                                                          August 06,
                                                          2016 8:47 AM<br>
                                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b>
                                                          <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                                          <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [Lnc-business]
                                                          Newbie
                                                          question -
                                                          Membership
                                                          Report</span></font></p>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New
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                                                      <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">First line should say on "page 2" of the
                                                          report.</span></font></p>
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos@gmail.com');" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Joshua, let me explain.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">There are five columns on page of the report.  </span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">1.  Total "MEM" - this is the total number of
                                                          constituents
                                                          in state that
                                                          have signed
                                                          the pledge -
                                                          whether they
                                                          have paid dues
                                                          or not.  It
                                                          includes
                                                          inactive folks
                                                          who are not
                                                          reflected on
                                                          this chart.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">2.   Active "MEM"- Current Dues Payer or
                                                          Lifetime Donor
                                                          with a signed
                                                          pledge</span></font></p>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">3.  Active "SUB" - Current due payer or
                                                          lifetime
                                                          donors who
                                                          have not
                                                          signed the
                                                          Pledge</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">4.  Total Active - that is just adding numbers
                                                          2 and numbers
                                                          3.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">5. Total BSM- By-Law Definition of "Sustaining
                                                          Member" and
                                                          number used
                                                          for delegate
                                                          count with a
                                                          parenthetical
                                                          comment of Art
                                                          5-3 that a
                                                          Sustaining
                                                          member is any
                                                          Party member
                                                          who has given
                                                          at least $25
                                                          to the party
                                                          in the prior
                                                          twelve months,
                                                          or who is a
                                                          life member. 
                                                          By that
                                                          definition, a
                                                          Pledge signer.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">What is the different between Numbers 2 and
                                                          Number 5? 
                                                          Dues payers?
                                                          Check. 
                                                          Lifetime
                                                          donors? 
                                                          Check.  Signed
                                                          Pledge? 
                                                          Check.  That
                                                          is true for
                                                          both of those
                                                          categories, so
                                                          what is the
                                                          difference?</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">And the different between those numbers in the
                                                          states is only
                                                          a few people,
                                                          and in some
                                                          states (such
                                                          as Hawaii,
                                                          Nebraska,
                                                          Rhode Island,
                                                          South
                                                          Carolina),
                                                          they are
                                                          exactly the
                                                          same.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><font face="Times
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
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                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington)
                                                          - Caryn.Ann. <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','Harlos@LP.org');" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></p>
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                                                          Colorado</a></span></font></p>
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                                                          State</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt"> Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 6:04 AM, Joshua Katz
                                                          <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty@gmail.com');" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Active subs need not sign the pledge, I agree. 
                                                          I don't see
                                                          that this
                                                          challenges
                                                          what I said,
                                                          that MEM don't
                                                          pay dues and
                                                          BSM do.</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:40 AM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos@gmail.com');" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I really suggest reading the categories in the
                                                          membership
                                                          report - that
                                                          isn't the
                                                          difference
                                                          here.  There
                                                          is a
                                                          categories for
                                                          non-pledgers -
                                                          "active subs"
                                                          - that doesn't
                                                          answer the
                                                          difference
                                                          between
                                                          "active mem"
                                                          and BSM.</span></font></p>
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                                                          On Friday,
                                                          August 5,
                                                          2016, Joshua
                                                          Katz <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty@gmail.com');" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">To become a member, one signs the pledge.  To
                                                          become a
                                                          bylaws-sustaining
                                                          member, one
                                                          pays dues.  </span></font></p>
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                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 9:42 PM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','carynannharlos@gmail.com');" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times
                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">But I did read it.  It doesn't answer  my
                                                          question.  So
                                                          perhaps it
                                                          needs to be
                                                          longer to
                                                          answer my
                                                          question.</span></font></p>
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                                                          New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ken Moellman
                                                          <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ken.moellman@lpky.org');" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">(If only the policy manual
                                                          weren't so
                                                          long... 
                                                          Sorry, I
                                                          couldn't
                                                          resist. Heh.)</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">---</span></font></p>
                                                          <p><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">On 2016-08-05 20:41, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          wrote:</span></font></p>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" size="2"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Verdana">Thank you Robert, I did,
                                                          and perhaps I
                                                          am being slow,
                                                          that doesn't
                                                          explain to me
                                                          the difference
                                                          between Active
                                                          MEM and BSM. 
                                                          It seems to me
                                                          those two
                                                          categories are
                                                          identical, yet
                                                          for nearly
                                                          every state
                                                          they vary by a
                                                          few.   </span></font></p>
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