<div dir="ltr">Wes, my points were not directed at you, and thank you for the time you've spent on this.  I don't think that more time spent on a task automatically is better - by actually speaking to one another, if we can resolve this with less effort and less staff time, I think that's better.  I understand the point you are making, and if it is the case that more than 2/3 of this committee do not want to meet, I will most likely vote for this proposal - it is not my intent to let staff hit "no more money in the budget" points for the sake of form.  I do think, though, that you get better results by actually talking, and that email tends to distort outcomes, for the reasons I discussed this morning as well as over the last few weeks.  </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Had this budget increase been considered at an actual LNC
      meeting, I'm thinking the item would have received about 20
      minutes of debate and discussion, with me personally being
      recognized to speak perhaps 3 times for a minute or two each.</p>
    <p>I think that would have been a very efficient way to handle this.
      However, we did not realize how well we would be doing financially
      at the time of the last LNC meeting.</p>
    <p>By considering this as an email ballot instead of at an LNC
      meeting, I've spent many hours working on the background
      information for this, answering questions, doing additional
      research and answering more questions. <br>
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    <p>LNC members have each had days to look over the proposals and
      think of questions. In summary, I think this budget increase has
      received ten times the scrutiny as an email ballot, and taken ten
      times the amount of staff time, as it would have taken as an item
      at an actual face-to-face or video-conference meeting. <br>
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    <p>I've also had to be very careful about giving precise and
      accurate responses since they are in writing, whereas, at an LNC
      meeting we are typically speaking off the cuff. The upside if that
      I've had to be very careful about what I'm proposing. <br>
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    <p>I don't know when or if the LNC will actually schedule an online
      meeting. The election is less than 2 months away. <br>
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    <p>I will make an extra effort in the future to propose future
      budget changes in time for LNC meetings to save all of us a lot of
      time. <br>
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    <p>Thanks for your consideration. <br>
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    <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
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    <div>On 9/15/2016 9:30 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
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      <div dir="ltr">And more EXCELLENT reasons why there should be an
        actual meeting on this rather than having us sign off on tens of
        thousands of dollars over email.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 7:14 AM, Joshua
          Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span>
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            <div dir="ltr">I'm confused by this motion.  The ED recently
              told us, in response to my inquiry, that items are priced
              so that revenues and expenses are approximately equal
              (expenses exempting fixed costs, overhead, and labor,
              which are charged to other line items).  Why do we need a
              non-offsetting change now?  I understand that this doesn't
              say that expenses will exceed budgeted revenue, but I'm
              just not following the logic.  
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              <div>Also, does actual revenue mean YTD or pro-rated? 
                What is the current actual revenue YTD for this item?</div>
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              <div>If we are taking losses on items, I would like to
                hear about what has changed.  Let me also say that I am
                uncomfortable if we are pricing promotional items
                co-branded with the campaign in such a way that we take
                a loss, in the absence of an executed contract.  If we
                are losing money selling J/W items (as I said, if) then
                let's stop doing that or change the prices, at the very
                least until we have a contract.  I'm not saying, to be
                clear, I'd favor losing money on selling these items
                with a contract either.</div>
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              <div>If this is one of those cases where, well, it
                happened, and we need to adjust for it - fine, but why
                did it happen and are we changing prices to keep it from
                continuing?</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz
                    <div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:34
                    AM, Nicholas Sarwark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>></span>
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                      All,<br>
                      <br>
                      I would like to make the following motion on the
                      Treasurer's behalf<br>
                      (to avoid the need for cosponsors):<br>
                      <br>
                      The budget for 55-Brand Political Materials
                      Expense shall be $50,000<br>
                      higher than actual revenue for 26-Brand Political
                      Materials.<br>
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                      Yours in liberty,<br>
                      <br>
                      Nick<br>
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                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                      <div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
                          Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
                          Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                          Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
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                          Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                            Colorado</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                          State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical
                            Caucus</a></span></div>
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