<div dir="ltr">I think these proposals are thought out and reasonable, subject to the comments I made this morning. I'd rather not consider them like this, but if I'm outvoted on the procedure, I'll do what I can on the substance, even if I think it would have come out differently had the procedure been different. Whatever the difference might be between this and the theorized outcome, it will, in my view, do less damage to this party than, in our most successful electoral season, telling staff to stop spending on valuable things. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ordinarily and typically I would agree with you Joshua, but these are not slight bumps, but massive ones, and we cannot adequately assess or plan without it being accurate. But of course this is just one of MANY questions that should be addressed in a proper deliberative assembly.<span class=""><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Joshua Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think it is necessary to amend the budget to account for higher than budgeted revenue. We go over revenue targets in many years and do not do so. I'm not aware of organizations that do so. Maybe one of the CPAs will correct me, which is fine. So far as I can tell, the expenditure side of the budget has rules implications and needs adjustment, the revenue side sets goals and, honestly, I'm not a fan of goal posts moving when goals are achieved.<div><br></div><div>There can be negative consequences to adjusting certain revenue lines during the fiscal year, as well.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div>Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)</div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">It concerns me that it seems like it is just like "well it is there" but it is not allocated properly because "we can do that later." This is how I am reading it, and I am not too enamoured with that. I am not thrilled at all with this much discussion over email...... email which you will note that the majority of the committee isn't even participating in. In no way is this responsible in my book.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Sam Goldstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Robert,<div><br></div><div>I was not questioning our revenue stream, just how and where it is accounted for in the budget. The last thing I want </div><div>is to sit through another 8 hour Executive Session for an Audit Committee report in 2017.</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Sam</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein<div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div>Member at Large</div><div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div><div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div><div><a href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone</div><div><a href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax</div></div></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">As Robert reports, we
are $784,592 over budget on revenue. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">We have no plans to
remove the donate button from our website to prevent
additional overages in revenue.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Here are corrected
revenue numbers thru
08/31/16:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy"><u></u><u></u>Total
revenue as of 08/31/16: $2,092,325<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Budget (adjusted for
Branding Increase
already passed) $1,307,733 thru Aug-16<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy">Live Free!</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<em><b><i><font face="Freestyle Script" color="navy" size="6"><span>Robert</span></font></i></b></em><span><b><i><font face="Verdana" color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy;font-weight:bold;font-style:italic"><br>
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<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
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</span><div><div><div>On 9/15/2016 1:34 AM, Nicholas Sarwark
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<pre>Dear All,
I would like to make the following motion on the Treasurer's behalf
(to avoid the need for cosponsors):
The budget for 55-Brand Political Materials Expense shall be $50,000
higher than actual revenue for 26-Brand Political Materials.
Yours in liberty,
Nick
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