Point of Information: the Policy Manual sets the precedent by stating a meeting can be called by 1/3. If we would like our rules to be 1/2 we need to change the Policy Manual.<span></span><br><br>On Friday, September 16, 2016, Sam Goldstein <<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There has been so much traffic on this meeting in several different threads that I am confused. I get<div>that the proposed date is Sept. 25th. Was a time, duration and agenda (or suggested agenda) set?</div><div><br></div><div>Since this effort will set a precedent for a non-scheduled meeting called for by a minority of the LNC membership,</div><div>I'd like to make sure we have a good idea of what we will be about before committing my time. Especially since</div><div>our Chair has stated that he cannot attend on that date.</div><div><br></div><div>Live Free,</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein<div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div>Member at Large</div><div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div><div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div><div>317-850-0726 Phone</div><div>317-582-1773 Fax</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 2:59 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','whitneycb76@gmail.com');" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">I can.</p><span><font color="#888888">
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<div>It sounds as though Region 3 will not be able to attend. Mr. Bittner has a packed schedule that weekend and cannot attend, and I fly for work early on Monday morning (Eastern Time) making a late conference call unreasonable.</div>
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<div>I believe that we have also heard that our Chairman would not be in attendance, as well. </div>
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<p>On 2016-09-15 23:45, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:</p>
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<div>Katz, Hayes, Harlos, Demarest, McKnight, and Hewitt.</div>
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<div>Will the Chair please set the meeting?</div>
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<span><br><br>-------- Original message --------<br>From: Patrick McKnight <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com');" target="_blank">patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail<wbr>.com</a>> <br>Date: 9/15/2016 6:15 PM (GMT-08:00) <br>To: <a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','lnc-business@hq.lp.org');" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a> <br>Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Results of Doodle <br><br></span>
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<p dir="ltr">Thanks,<br> Patrick McKnight <br> Region 8 Rep</p>
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<div dir="ltr">To be clear, I wasn't asking the Chair to override the LNC and call a meeting. My comments are directed to the LNC as a whole, not you. If we're not going to meet, it would be nice to at least have a few members perhaps weigh in as to why email ballots - which basically exist, so far as I can tell, because in the past the technology for synchronous meetings didn't exist - are a better way to resolve this question, given the parliamentary constraints I mentioned this morning.
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<div>However, I don't think I'll get 6 requstors. Given that, what is the feeling about an informal teleconference at which no business is discussed?</div>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Four members of the LNC have requested an online meeting on September 25.<br> <br> I anticipate flying to New York on that day, since there's something<br> happening on Long Island the day after, but my personal availability<br> should not be the deciding factor.<br> <br> The bigger concern I have with calling a meeting is that only 4 out of<br> 25 members and alternates have indicated a desire for one. If a<br> majority of the committee wants a meeting, I'll call one. If not, I<br> won't.<br> <br> -Nick<br>
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I believe<br> > an actual deliberative meeting is the appropriate way to handle and urge<br> > others to join this request.<br> ><br> > --<br> > In Liberty,<br> > Caryn Ann Harlos<br> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br> > Harlos@LP.org<br> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br> ><br> > On Sunday, September 11, 2016, Ken Moellman <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ken.moellman@lpky.org');" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> This message is sent to note that the Policy Manual states in Section 1.01<br> >> (2) that the Chair shall set the agenda for all LNC sessions. The members<br> >> proposing a meeting are to only suggest the topics, per Section 1.02 (7)(e).<br> >><br> >> To that end, I would suggest to the chair that the agenda be structured in<br> >> a way where committee transparency comes before committee population. I<br> >> suggest this because some may make a decision on where and how to serve<br> >> based on the rules, and if the rules are changing, it might be good to get<br> >> the rule changes down first.<br> >><br> >> I personally still believe that we need an in-person meeting to discuss<br> >> the details of the transparency proposal in an efficient manner.<br> >><br> >> And Section 1.03 (1) says the IT Committee is populated by the LNC chair,<br> >> not the LNC itself.<br> >><br> >><br> >> ---<br> >><br> >> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br> >> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br> >> LPKY Judicial Committee<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> On 2016-09-11 18:11, Joshua Katz wrote:<br> >><br> >> For reference, here is the request I am referencing:<br> >><br> >> I am seeking co-requesters for a teleconference meeting to be held<br> >> Saturday, September 24, 2016, at 5PM Pacific - 7PM Pacific. I am happy to<br> >> adjust date and time if needed; I'm basing this off my memory and Caryn's<br> >> assistance.<br> >><br> >> The agenda items would be as follows:<br> >> Amend Something Previously Adopted - Budget<br> >> Populating Committees<br> >> Transparency for Committees<br> >><br> >> The items would be in that order, and there would be, I hope, a 2 hour<br> >> hard stop. (According to some recent research, a 72 minute hard stop would<br> >> be better, but that's not realistic.)<br> >><br> >> It is my belief that these items, particularly the budget item, can be<br> >> dealt with fairly easily at such a meeting if we do the spadework here, and<br> >> might possibly be questions that come out differently at such a meeting vs.<br> >> email. In other words, I think they would profit from real-time discussion<br> >> and deliberation.<br> >><br> >> Furthermore, there was a request to assign times to items. My proposal is<br> >> below. None of these are intended as special orders; rather, I include the<br> >> times simply to indicate the time to be allocated to each item.<br> >><br> >> 5:00 - 5:05 Pacific: Credentialing and housekeeping<br> >> 5:05 - 6:05: Amend Something Previously Adopted - Budget<br> >> 6:05 - 6:25: Populating Committees<br> >> 6:25 - 6:45: Transparency for Committees<br> >> 6:45 - 7:00: Public comment and announcements<br> >><br> >> It is my hope that less time will be needed than this and that we'll end<br> >> early.<br> >><br> >> Joshua A. Katz<br> >> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)<br> >><br> >> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Joshua Katz <<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','planning4liberty@gmail.com');" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br> >> wrote:<br> >>><br> >>> There were 6 votes cast. There were no dates receiving 6 votes, but the<br> >>> 25th (Sunday) had 5 votes, which was the most. Therefore, I am still<br> >>> seeking co-requesters for the 25th.<br> >>><br> >>> Joshua A. 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