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<p dir="auto">Arvin,</p>
<p dir="auto">I too support contract signing prior to the nomination. I'm curious why you would not support making the signing of such a contract a requirement in order to procure our nomination. What incentive would a candidate have to sign pre-nomination?</p>
<p dir="auto">Sean</p>
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<p dir="auto">Sean O'Toole<br>
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<p dir="auto">On 21 Sep 2016, at 14:32, Arvin Vohra wrote:</p>
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<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><div id="C2E8AE60-6C41-4288-AB76-EF2BE1FB8E99"><div dir="ltr">LNC - having heard the feedback from Messrs. Sarwark, Katz, and Goldstein that the contract provides value to both the campaign and the Libertarian Party, I am satisfied. There are plenty of things we keep secret (e.g. donor lists) for strategic reasons, and it seems that we have a strategic reason to do so here (it gets us a contract). I would obviously prefer transparency here, but if that is a dealbreaker, then I recommend we move forward and focus on downsizing government.<div><br></div><div>However, I will be either making or cosponsoring a motion to allow future presidential campaigns to sign preliminary contracts with the LNC before nomination. I will not support making this a strict requirement, but I do believe that this process should be make easier in the future if possible.</div><div><br></div><div>-Arvin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Sam Goldstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Nope you are just not in on the secret.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Sam</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein<div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div>Member at Large</div><div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div><div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div><div><a href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone</div><div><a href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax</div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I am horridly out of touch. I hear they aren't even using the term "dank" any longer, I can't keep up.<span><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">FYI: All the cool kids are using poisoned Skittles as the correct<br>
analogy these days.<br>
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-Nick<br>
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On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
<div><div><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> And to add saying "withe exception of that one clause" is precisely the<br>
> issue. A meal may be delicious with the exception of the few grains of<br>
> arsenic. I will not focus on the savour of the steak but rather the sting<br>
> of the poison.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> In Liberty,<br>
> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
> Harlos@LP.org<br>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:46 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
> <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Protecting the interests of the party and its members and us do not<br>
>> include eternal secrecy. While some might have trouble seeing it, no, in a<br>
>> contract negotiation, something as huge as that, should not be missed.<br>
>> Whether or not it is "understandable" is not the question. It is<br>
>> extraordinarily prejudical and and negligent.<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Joshua Katz <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> In response to the implied question: Having read the contract, I find it<br>
>>> to be a good agreement, and one that delivers excellent value to the Party,<br>
>>> with the exception of the clause under discussion. I personally have<br>
>>> trouble seeing the implications of that clause, even after having it<br>
>>> explained to me, and so it makes perfect sense to me that those implications<br>
>>> can be missed during an extended negotiation where the primary focus was on<br>
>>> protecting the interests of the party and obtaining value for the party.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Joshua A. Katz<br>
>>> Westbrook CT Planning Commission (L in R seat)<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Dear All,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I want to clear something up.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The LNC authorized me to negotiate a contract and joint fundraising<br>
>>>> agreement between the party and the Gary Johnson campaign. I have,<br>
>>>> for the past three and a half months, been working with our counsel,<br>
>>>> Oliver Hall, to negotiate a contract that would be in the best<br>
>>>> interest of the Libertarian Party.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> During those months, terms have changed during the course of the<br>
>>>> negotiations in both agreements. At some point I asked Mr. Hall about<br>
>>>> the advisability of making the provisions of the contract public both<br>
>>>> before and after the election. His advice was that it would not be<br>
>>>> advisable at any point, but definitely would not be prior to the<br>
>>>> election. Based on that discussion, my preference would be to keep it<br>
>>>> confidential until inauguration day. That was what I communicated to<br>
>>>> the list, but that communication was in error.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The actual contract requires confidentiality of the terms. Mr.<br>
>>>> Goldstein pointed out that phrase to me and I sent a correction to the<br>
>>>> email list as soon as I realized that I had misspoke. I understand<br>
>>>> that this misspeaking has created a lack of confidence and a motion to<br>
>>>> rescind the entire authority to execute the contract.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I would like it to be clear that making the contract public was not,<br>
>>>> to my knowledge, one of the stated objectives at the LNC meeting<br>
>>>> following the convention for our contract with the campaign. A very<br>
>>>> small and vocal minority making it into an absolute requirement at<br>
>>>> this late stage of the negotiations is shifting the goalposts in the<br>
>>>> final seconds of the game (after, I'm not sure if signatures are<br>
>>>> already on the campaign's copies).<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I think the contract negotiated is a good one. Others who have seen<br>
>>>> it are probably within their bounds to say whether they consider it a<br>
>>>> good or bad agreement, without discussing specific terms with LNC<br>
>>>> members who will not agree to keep it confidential.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The effect of this motion would be to cancel everything negotiated<br>
>>>> because I misspoke and/or people value transparency over any other<br>
>>>> goal. If that's what you want to do, you should co-sponsor it and<br>
>>>> vote for it.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Yours in liberty,<br>
>>>> Nick<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> P.S. Recognizing that eventual transparency is important to the<br>
>>>> aforementioned small and vocal minority, Oliver and I are actually in<br>
>>>> negotiations with the campaign for some kind of addendum that would<br>
>>>> modify the confidentiality terms to address those concerns.<br>
>>>><br>
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>> --<br>
>> In Liberty,<br>
>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
>> Harlos@LP.org<br>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
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> --<br>
> In Liberty,<br>
> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
> Harlos@LP.org<br>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
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