<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Caryn Ann,<br><br>Article 7, Section 12 is the same bylaw I looked at, and all I see there is that the JC can potentially "veto" a decision, thus making it "null and void". Veto power on something the LNC did adopt is not legislative power, such that if the LNC rejects a motion, the JC can enact it.<br><br></div>Do you think that the U.S. Constitution provides that if Congress votes down a bill the President wanted, that the President's veto power can unilaterally enact the bill into law?<br><br></div>-Alicia<br><br><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:58 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Alicia,<div><br></div><div>==<span style="font-size:12.8px">You keep saying this. Is it your belief that if the LNC refuses to adopt a given motion, the Judicial Committee has some sort of authority to make us adopt it? If so, please cite the bylaw which gives you that impression. Veto power and legislative power are quite different things.==</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Yes I do. There are members who feel that this process may violate certain sections of the Bylaws. You don't have to agree with them. You don't have to agree whether it would be a fruitful exercise or futile, or trying to unring a bell. They have this right. I personally think the Bylaws should give members more power to appeal, but such is what it is.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Article 7, Section 12: </span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00">Upon appeal by ten percent of the delegates credentialed at the most recent Regular Convention
or one percent of the Party sustaining members the Judicial Committee shall consider the
question of whether or not a decision of the National Committee contravenes specified sections of
the Bylaws. If the decision is vetoed by the Judicial Committee, it shall be declared null and void.</span><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00"> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00">I am not going to drop names without permission, but some of the members who feel this way aren't wet-behind-the-ears new people but experienced seasoned members' who's opinion I respect.</span></div><span class=""><div><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt2dd4o00"><br></span></div><div><br>-- <br><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Would you like me to ask the members of this<span></span> group who requested to provide their names and copies of their LP membership cards to prove their bona fides? I didn't think we were in the habit of speculating that concerned members might be old party operatives or taking emails at anything other than face value without some proof they are not what they seem to be just because we don't like what they had to say.<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br></span></font><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In Liberty,</font></b></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></span><div><div>On Friday, September 23, 2016, Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:secretary@lp.org" target="_blank">secretary@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Surely I'm not the only one who sees the irony of someone using an unsigned email from an anonymously-structured email address to lobby the LNC for transparency. Just sayin'...<br><br></div>We have also recently been lobbied to suspend our presidential ticket by a person who later noted he's not even a member of the LP. For all I know, some of these emails could be coming from Trump or Clinton supporters.<br><br></div>-Alicia<br><br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:30 AM, Audacious Caucus <span dir="ltr"><<a>beaudaciouslp@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">To the members of the Libertarian National Committee,</p>
<p dir="ltr">We the members of the Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus (LPAC) wish to express our support for the motion to rescind put forth by LNC Region 1 Representative Caryn Ann Harlos. This motion is a call for transparency in light of some troubling aspects of the contract Chairman Sarwark was authorized to negotiate and sign. We feel this is a play at opacity that is not acceptable. There can be an argument made for tactical aspects of keeping the contract hidden during the campaign, but after it is over, members of the LNC should be able to discuss it with their constituents, and members should be able to view the document as the information can be useful in deciding on LNC representatives, or as a benchmark if the bylaw provision for a stock contract comes back around.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We hope that you will choose wisely and support the rescission, not as a personal attack on the Chair, but as a support of transparency to set an example for the old parties.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Thank you,</p>
<p dir="ltr">The Members of The Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Be Audacious!</p>
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</blockquote></div></div></div><br><div><div><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" color="#666666" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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