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    <p>There are problems with the images on the new website. All new
      images appear and disappear intermittently. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Kevin Ludlow sounds to me like he is close to solving the
      problem, but I can't make any promises on this.</p>
    <p>I apologize for the trouble. <br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/27/2016 11:26 AM, Caryn Ann
      Harlos wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAL4U=_qGHvu27QuxumbtZ50ZmRHLcDuj+69QEQFC17hSa+OTwg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">I am in the middle of a Federal lawsuit that is
        getting a ton of media in CO.  People are looking me up to
        verify my credentials and it is terribly disturbing to not have
        my picture.  A ton of free LP publicity is being generated in CO
        right now.
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>-- <br>
          <div class="gmail-m_5638093761667842527gmail_signature">
            <div dir="ltr">
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                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"
                          color="#666666" size="4"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div>
                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"
                          color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                      <div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
                          Libertarian National Committee </font><span
                          style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
                          Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                          Wyoming, Washington) - <a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org"
                            target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                          Director, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                            target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                            Colorado</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                          State Coordinator, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                            target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical
                            Caucus</a></span></div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 9:20 AM, Sam
          Goldstein <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">The Radical purge has begun!<span
                class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Sam</div>
                </font></span></div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all">
                <div>
                  <div class="m_-7520360452250906315gmail_signature"
                    data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                    <div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein
                      <div>Libertarian National Committee</div>
                      <div>Member at Large</div>
                      <div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div>
                      <div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div>
                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726"
                          target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone</div>
                      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773"
                          target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax</div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <br>
              </span>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 11:13
                    AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">And now my picture has been
                        removed.  Why?  I did not object to the "live"
                        shots, and I rather preferred that picture.  <span>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          <div>-- <br>
                            <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815gmail-m_5638093761667842527gmail_signature">
                              <div dir="ltr">
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                                        <div><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif"
                                            color="#666666" size="4"><b>In
                                              Liberty,</b></font></div>
                                        <div><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif"
                                            color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
                                              Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                                        <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                            Representative, Libertarian
                                            National Committee </font><span
                                            style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                            Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                            Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                            Wyoming, Washington) - <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org"
                                              target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.
                                              Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                        <div><span
                                            style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                            Director, <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                              target="_blank">Libertarian
                                              Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                        <div><span
                                            style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                            State Coordinator, <a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                              target="_blank">Libertarian
                                              Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
                                        <div><br>
                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </span></div>
                      <div class="m_-7520360452250906315HOEnZb">
                        <div class="m_-7520360452250906315h5">
                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 27,
                              2016 at 7:49 AM, Sam Goldstein <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px
                                #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                <div dir="ltr">Here you go:
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20160526_LNC_Policy_Manual.pdf"
                                      target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/wp-content/<wbr>uploads/2016/07/20160526_LNC_P<wbr>olicy_Manual.pdf</a><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>Is is hiding on the LNC Minutes
                                    page.</div>
                                  <span
                                    class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815HOEnZb"><font
                                      color="#888888">
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                    </font></span>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><span
                                      class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815HOEnZb"><font
                                        color="#888888"><br clear="all">
                                        <div>
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data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                            <div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein
                                              <div>Libertarian National
                                                Committee</div>
                                              <div>Member at Large</div>
                                              <div>8925 N Meridian St,
                                                Ste 101</div>
                                              <div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div>
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a>
                                                Phone</div>
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a>
                                                Fax</div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                        </div>
                                      </font></span>
                                    <div>
                                      <div
                                        class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815h5">
                                        <br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu,
                                          Oct 27, 2016 at 9:39 AM,
                                          Joshua Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                          wrote:<br>
                                          <blockquote
                                            class="gmail_quote"
                                            style="margin:0 0 0
                                            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                            solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                            <div dir="ltr">To get to the
                                              Policy Manual, click on
                                              "Meeting Minutes" in the
                                              footer.  It appears on the
                                              top of the page, followed
                                              by the minutes arranged by
                                              year.
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I think the "type" of
                                                pictures used should
                                                either be an individual
                                                decision (my preference)
                                                or be based on the
                                                recommendation of an
                                                expert in
                                                PR/design/something.  I
                                                am none of those things,
                                                and so I don't know what
                                                the most effective sort
                                                of picture is.  Unless
                                                we hear from an expert
                                                "all pictures should
                                                look like X in the
                                                context of this site and
                                                what you're trying to
                                                accomplish" I'm going to
                                                stick with board
                                                discussions about the
                                                pictures, other than to
                                                say people can choose
                                                what they want their
                                                picture to look like
                                                (within limits - I don't
                                                think my request to have
                                                mine look like a lion
                                                should be
                                                respected...although...)
                                                is rather pointless.  </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>I look forward to a
                                                report at the December
                                                meeting where some of
                                                these matters can be
                                                discussed more fully.</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br
                                                clear="all">
                                              <div>
                                                <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
                                                  <div dir="ltr">Joshua
                                                    A. Katz
                                                    <div>Westbrook CT
                                                      Planning
                                                      Commission (L in R
                                                      seat)</div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581h5"><br>
                                                  <div
                                                    class="gmail_quote">On
                                                    Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at
                                                    8:24 AM, Starchild <span
                                                      dir="ltr"><<a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>></span>
                                                    wrote:<br>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      class="gmail_quote"
                                                      style="margin:0 0
                                                      0
                                                      .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                      #ccc
                                                      solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                      <div
                                                        style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                        <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>Thanks
                                                          for the laugh
                                                          this morning
                                                          at your photo
                                                          descriptions
                                                          Daniel, lol...
                                                            :-D</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>But
                                                          seriously,
                                                          that's kinda
                                                          what I <i>like</i>
                                                          about some of
                                                          the pictures –
                                                          they help
                                                          people come
                                                          across as the
                                                          diverse
                                                          individuals we
                                                          are. I'm not
                                                          saying none of
                                                          the shots
                                                          could be
                                                          better, and if
                                                          the LNC
                                                          members you've
                                                          mentioned want
                                                          to select or
                                                          provide
                                                          different
                                                          photos of
                                                          themselves, of
                                                          course they
                                                          should be able
                                                          to do so. But
                                                          I'd be
                                                          disappointed
                                                          if folks chose
                                                          to reject
                                                          individuality
                                                          in favor of
                                                          "institutional"
                                                          type photos
                                                          that look like
                                                          they could
                                                          have been
                                                          plucked from a
                                                          corporate
                                                          annual
                                                          report. </div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap">   </span>Good
                                                          catch on
                                                          noticing that
                                                          the LNC Policy
                                                          Manual is
                                                          missing from
                                                          the new site,
                                                          if that is the
                                                          case. I tried
                                                          to do a
                                                          search, but
                                                          either it
                                                          isn't loading
                                                          for me right
                                                          now, or when
                                                          you search for
                                                          results of a
                                                          term that
                                                          can't be
                                                          found, it just
                                                          displays a
                                                          blank page
                                                          rather than a
                                                          notice saying
                                                          it couldn't
                                                          find the term.</div>
                                                        <span>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Love
                                                          & Liberty,</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                     
                                                          ((( starchild
                                                          )))</div>
                                                          <div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                   
                                                          (415) 625-FREE</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                     
                                                          @StarchildSF</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </span>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572h5">
                                                          <div>On Oct
                                                          27, 2016, at
                                                          5:00 AM, <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a>
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-interchange-newline">
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                                                          type="cite">
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>I have
                                                          not looked
                                                          very hard yet,
                                                          but even at 5
                                                          am central in
                                                          the morning
                                                          the website is
                                                          godawful slow
                                                          to load. 
                                                          That's not a
                                                          bitch,
                                                          consider that
                                                          informational
                                                          purposes.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On the LNC
                                                          page.  ( <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/"
                                                          target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/libertar<wbr>ian-national-committee/</a> )Many
                                                          of us paid for
                                                          head shots.
                                                          Moving away
                                                          from that I
                                                          think is a bad
                                                          idea. Also,
                                                          there are a
                                                          lot of
                                                          problems with
                                                          this page from
                                                          the standpoint
                                                          of basic human
                                                          psychology. 
                                                          Most of what I
                                                          say below is
                                                          Nov. 9th
                                                          stuff, but I
                                                          think
                                                          correcting the
                                                          pictures is a
                                                          bit more
                                                          pressing.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Nick's looks
                                                          real young and
                                                          innocent. He
                                                          reminds me of
                                                          a kindergarten
                                                          student in
                                                          that picture. 
                                                          It's his
                                                          picture but I
                                                          suggest his
                                                          pro head shot.
                                                          I do think
                                                          Valerie might
                                                          like this one
                                                          though but he
                                                          convinced her
                                                          to marry him
                                                          so I think he
                                                          is past the
                                                          phase of
                                                          convincing her
                                                          he is credible
                                                          and competent.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Arvin's looks
                                                          surprised like
                                                          someone just
                                                          told him he
                                                          got selected
                                                          to represent
                                                          the school in
                                                          the spelling
                                                          bee and
                                                          responded
                                                          with. "REALLY?
                                                          ME?!!!"<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Alicia's
                                                          picture has
                                                          her looking
                                                          away and you
                                                          can't see her
                                                          eyes. She
                                                          looks
                                                          occupied.  Its
                                                          not as bad as
                                                          the others but
                                                          once again...
                                                          Pro Head shot.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Bill's picture
                                                          is the one
                                                          that caught my
                                                          attention with
                                                          this
                                                          initially. 
                                                          Bill looks
                                                          pissed off. He
                                                          might have
                                                          been pissed
                                                          off.  I feel
                                                          ya Bill...I
                                                          get pissed off
                                                          a lot too like
                                                          I will be in
                                                          my next email
                                                          after this one
                                                          to the list. 
                                                          That said..NOT
                                                          the picture to
                                                          use. Pro head
                                                          shot<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I think
                                                          Larry's is a
                                                          decent one but
                                                          why not use a
                                                          Pro head shot
                                                          if he has one
                                                          for
                                                          consistency.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          That said...
                                                          WHY? I now
                                                          find myself
                                                          involved in
                                                          the task that
                                                          this board
                                                          shouldn't be
                                                          involved in..
                                                          Micromanaging
                                                          things. But at
                                                          the same time,
                                                          I am annoyed
                                                          that staff
                                                          time was spent
                                                          deciding on
                                                          putting these
                                                          pictures here
                                                          when all of
                                                          the people I
                                                          mentioned with
                                                          "bad" pics in
                                                          my opinion had
                                                          professional
                                                          head shots
                                                          that they PAID
                                                          for.  Also
                                                          where is
                                                          Sam's? Never
                                                          mind..I
                                                          thought it was
                                                          a broken link
                                                          but it just
                                                          failed to load
                                                          the first
                                                          time.  Also, I
                                                          think his
                                                          picture is
                                                          less than
                                                          flattering
                                                          compared to
                                                          his head shot.
                                                            I know there
                                                          were others
                                                          that had
                                                          professional
                                                          head shots.
                                                          Now we have a
                                                          bunch of blank
                                                          spaces and
                                                          many of our
                                                          board members
                                                          not looking
                                                          very inspiring
                                                          of
                                                          confidence. <br>
                                                          <div
                                                          style="direction:rtl"><span
style="font-size:15px"> e</span></div>
                                                          Additionally,
                                                          the form of
                                                          the page.  Get
                                                          the pictures
                                                          of the people
                                                          at the TOP
                                                          instead of a
                                                          Wall O Text
                                                          mapping out
                                                          all the
                                                          regions.   Put
                                                          that below the
                                                          pictures. IF
                                                          someone needs
                                                          to figure out
                                                          their region
                                                          or is
                                                          interested
                                                          they will
                                                          look.  Leave
                                                          the link to
                                                          the LNC
                                                          reflector list
                                                          at the top. 
                                                          Also, lose the
                                                          spot where it
                                                          lists the
                                                          region of
                                                          every member
                                                          below the
                                                          pictures
                                                          because almost
                                                          half the
                                                          people listed
                                                          don't have a
                                                          region.  Just
                                                          list the
                                                          region number
                                                          in between the
                                                          word Region
                                                          and
                                                          Representative
                                                          where that is
                                                          listed below
                                                          each person's
                                                          name.<br>
                                                          Let's include
                                                          a place for
                                                          people's phone
                                                          numbers that
                                                          want those
                                                          included. 
                                                          Mine is <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:504-258-6176" value="+15042586176" target="_blank">504-258-6176</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Also where is
                                                          the link to
                                                          the Policy
                                                          manual these
                                                          days? I used
                                                          to be able to
                                                          find it by
                                                          going to this
                                                          page.  It
                                                          doesn't seem
                                                          to be listed
                                                          here anymore
                                                          and doesn't
                                                          seem to be in
                                                          with the
                                                          bylaws.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Daniel Hayes<br>
                                                          LNC At Large
                                                          Member
                                                          Region:At
                                                          Large</div>
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Oct 26,
                                                          2016, at 05:05
                                                          PM, Starchild
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290msg-quote"
style="word-wrap:break-word">
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Thanks,
                                                          Kevin. Can you
                                                          tell me which
                                                          issues that I
                                                          mentioned are
                                                          <i>not</i>
                                                          being
                                                          addressed, and
                                                          if/when you
                                                          plan to
                                                          address them?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I'm
                                                          also wondering
                                                          about the
                                                          specific issue
                                                          I mentioned in
                                                          my previous
                                                          message about
                                                          the LNC page
                                                          losing
                                                          information on
                                                          the way over,
                                                          because I got
                                                          the impression
                                                          from your
                                                          comment "Staff
                                                          has copied
                                                          over existing
                                                          pages and so
                                                          nothing is
                                                          lost or
                                                          destroyed or
                                                          anything of
                                                          this sort",
                                                          that this
                                                          should not
                                                          have occurred.
                                                          Do you know
                                                          how it
                                                          happened in
                                                          this case, and
                                                          whether it may
                                                          have happened
                                                          in other cases
                                                          as well?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Love
                                                          & Liberty,</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                   (((
                                                          starchild )))</div>
                                                          <div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                (415)
                                                          625-FREE</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                 
                                                          @StarchildSF</div>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On Oct
                                                          26, 2016, at
                                                          8:32 AM, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,
                                                          Starchild.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Your feedback
                                                          is well-taken
                                                          and to your
                                                          point, most of
                                                          the issues you
                                                          mention are
                                                          being
                                                          addressed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -Kevin<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Wed, Oct 26,
                                                          2016 at 4:04
                                                          AM, Starchild
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net"
                                                          target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>On Oct
                                                          25, 2016, at
                                                          9:05 PM, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow wrote:</div>
                                                          <br
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                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>Thanks,
                                                          Ken, for the
                                                          constructive
                                                          position.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          As noted, I
                                                          would really
                                                          like to get
                                                          actual
                                                          problems with
                                                          the site
                                                          organized so
                                                          that they can
                                                          be tackled. 
                                                          Staff has been
                                                          working on
                                                          testing; I
                                                          have been
                                                          building the
                                                          infrastructure.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          It is very
                                                          useful to be
                                                          informed of
                                                          visible
                                                          problems so
                                                          that we can
                                                          address them
                                                          so any effort
                                                          you're willing
                                                          to make in
                                                          that regard is
                                                          highly
                                                          appreciated.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">~k</blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <div>Hi Kevin,
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Not
                                                          sure whether
                                                          you saw my
                                                          original post
                                                          to the LNC
                                                          list informing
                                                          on a number of
                                                          actual
                                                          problems with
                                                          the site, but
                                                          in case you
                                                          missed it,
                                                          here it is. In
                                                          light of your
                                                          explanations
                                                          in response to
                                                          Chuck and
                                                          Caryn, I'm
                                                          curious about
                                                          one page which
                                                          has been
                                                          ported over to
                                                          the new site
                                                          but still
                                                          somehow lost
                                                          some
                                                          information
                                                          along the way,
                                                          namely the LNC
                                                          page  (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/libe<wbr>rtarian-national-committee/</a>) w<wbr>hich
                                                          no longer
                                                          lists any
                                                          phone numbers
                                                          or other
                                                          contact info
                                                          beyond email
                                                          addresses. I
                                                          would like my
                                                          phone number
                                                          [(415)
                                                          625-FREE] and
                                                          twitter handle
                                                          (@StarchildSF)
                                                          added to that
                                                          page. (Ideally
                                                          I think every
                                                          LNC member's
                                                          listing should
                                                          include a
                                                          phone number
                                                          at which they
                                                          can be
                                                          contacted.)
                                                          Thanks, and
                                                          please let me
                                                          know if you
                                                          have any
                                                          questions
                                                          about anything
                                                          else I wrote
                                                          below.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Love
                                                          & Liberty,</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                     
                                                          ((( starchild
                                                          )))</div>
                                                          <div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                   (415)
                                                          625-FREE</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                     
                                                          @StarchildSF</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
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                                                          <blockquote
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                                                          </div>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
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                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195moz-cite-prefix">On
                                                          10/25/2016
                                                          12:53 PM,
                                                          Starchild
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite"><br>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:#cccccc;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;margin:0px
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Yesterday,
                                                          I'm told, the
                                                          launch of the
                                                          new and
                                                          improved <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://LP.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">LP.org</a> website
                                                          took place.
                                                          And on the
                                                          whole, at a
                                                          quick look,
                                                          I'd say it <i>is</i> an
                                                          improvement.
                                                          Both
                                                          appearance-wise
                                                          and
                                                          organizationally,
                                                          I like the new
                                                          site. I
                                                          wouldn't call
                                                          the difference
earth-shattering, but my initial impression is generally positive.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>There
                                                          are however a
                                                          number of
                                                          issues that
                                                          have come to
                                                          my attention
                                                          which could
                                                          use fixing,
                                                          some more
                                                          serious than
                                                          others:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• While
                                                          the site looks
                                                          good on the
                                                          web, it looks
                                                          terrible on my
                                                          phone! The
                                                          "Latest News"
                                                          boxes show up
                                                          as long,
                                                          narrow,
                                                          unreadable
                                                          columns of
                                                          type with a
                                                          couple letters
                                                          on each line.
                                                          Considering
                                                          how many
                                                          people access
                                                          websites on
                                                          mobile
                                                          devices,
                                                          fixing this
                                                          should be a
                                                          high priority.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>• I don't
                                                          see either the
                                                          "Party of
                                                          Principle" or
                                                          "Minimum
                                                          Government,
                                                          Maximum
                                                          Freedom"
                                                          slogans shown
                                                          anywhere (a
                                                          search for key
                                                          terms doesn't
                                                          turn them up).
                                                          Nor do I see
                                                          the Nolan
                                                          Chart except
                                                          buried in a
                                                          link. Each of
                                                          these ought to
                                                          be listed
                                                          prominently,
                                                          imho. The
                                                          brief
                                                          introduction
                                                          statement when
                                                          you click on
                                                          "Libertarian
                                                          Party" at the
                                                          top of the
                                                          main page is
                                                          rather weak
                                                          ("The
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party (LP) is
                                                          your
                                                          representative
                                                          in American
                                                          politics. We
                                                          are the only
                                                          political
                                                          organization
                                                          which respects
                                                          you as a 
                                                          unique and
                                                          responsible
                                                          individual.")</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• The
                                                          more detailed
                                                          description of
                                                          the party has
                                                          a conservative
                                                          leaning. Under
                                                          "The
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Option" (at <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://libparty.zocalodesign.com/about/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://libparty.zocalodesi<wbr>gn.com/about/</a> , a URL
                                                          that like that
                                                          of many pages
                                                          should also be
                                                          fixed so that
                                                          it doesn't
                                                          include the
                                                          web design
                                                          company's
                                                          website), it
                                                          reads:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>Consider
                                                          voting
                                                          Libertarian or
                                                          joining the
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party because…</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195faq_answer_container">
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195faq_answer"><span
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195teaser">
                                                          <ul>
                                                          <li>We seek to
                                                          substantially
                                                          reduce the
                                                          size and
                                                          intrusiveness
                                                          of government
                                                          and cut and
                                                          eliminate taxes
                                                          at every
                                                          opportunity.</li>
                                                          <li>We believe
                                                          that peaceful,
                                                          honest people
                                                          should be able
                                                          to offer their
                                                          goods and
                                                          services to
                                                          willing
                                                          consumers
                                                          without
                                                          inappropriate
interference from government.</li>
                                                          <li>We believe
                                                          that peaceful,
                                                          honest people
                                                          should decide
                                                          for themselves
                                                          how to live
                                                          their lives,
                                                          without fear
                                                          of criminal or
                                                          civil
                                                          penalties.</li>
                                                          <li>We believe
                                                          that
                                                          government’s
                                                          only
                                                          responsibility,
                                                          if any, should
                                                          be protecting
                                                          people from
                                                          force and
                                                          fraud.</li>
                                                          </ul>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>The
                                                          first two
                                                          points above
                                                          appeal more to
                                                          conservatives
                                                          or people on
                                                          the right
                                                          (economic
                                                          freedoms),
                                                          while the
                                                          second two
                                                          points are
                                                          more neutral
                                                          in terms of
                                                          left/right
                                                          appeal. There
                                                          is no
                                                          balancing
                                                          appeal to
                                                          people on the
                                                          left by
                                                          explicitly
                                                          mentioning
                                                          things like a
non-interventionist foreign policy or civil liberties such as ending
                                                          Prohibition
                                                          and reining in
                                                          police abuse.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• The URL
                                                          for the
                                                          candidate page
                                                          has changed
                                                          (hat tip to
                                                          Thomas Knapp),
                                                          and entering
                                                          the former URL
                                                          (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lp.org/2016-libertarian-party-candidates"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://www.lp.org/2016-libert<wbr>arian-party-candidates</a>)
                                                          apparently
                                                          now results in
                                                          a page error
                                                          rather than
                                                          connecting
                                                          people to the
                                                          new page (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/2016-candidates/" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/2016-candi<wbr>dates/</a>). </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• If the
                                                          information
                                                          about how to
                                                          subscribe to
                                                          the LNC email
                                                          list as a
                                                          non-LNC member
                                                          got ported
                                                          over, I cannot
                                                          find it. I
                                                          would suggest
                                                          listing this
                                                          both on the
                                                          LNC leadership
                                                          page, and on
                                                          the LNC
                                                          meeting
                                                          archives page.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• The LNC
                                                          page only
                                                          lists email
                                                          addresses.
                                                          Previously at
                                                          least a couple
                                                          LNC members'
                                                          listings
                                                          included phone
                                                          number and/or
                                                          other info
                                                          such as
                                                          Twitter
                                                          address, but
                                                          now those
                                                          listings are
                                                          gone and only
                                                          email
                                                          addresses are
                                                          listed. I
                                                          would
                                                          personally
                                                          like my phone
                                                          number and
                                                          Twitter handle
                                                          listed, and
                                                          encourage my
                                                          colleagues to
                                                          request their
                                                          phone numbers
                                                          likewise be
                                                          listed, so
                                                          that our
                                                          members can
                                                          readily reach
                                                          us directly as
                                                          well as in
                                                          writing.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• Where
                                                          email
                                                          addresses are
                                                          listed on the
                                                          website (for
                                                          candidates,
                                                          LNC members,
                                                          staff, college
                                                          chapter reps.,
                                                          etc.), they
                                                          are spelled
                                                          out. That's
                                                          unfortunately
                                                          asking to get
                                                          us spammed by
                                                          web-crawling
                                                          bots that
                                                          harvest email
                                                          addresses. I
                                                          recommend
                                                          changing this
                                                          so that
                                                          addresses are
                                                          listed in a
                                                          less literal
                                                          format such as
Nick.Sarwark[at]LP.org</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• The
                                                          page <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/_2016/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/_2016/</a><wbr> mentions
                                                          Johnson and
                                                          Weld being our
                                                          presidential
                                                          and VP
                                                          candidates,
                                                          but the photo
                                                          next to the
                                                          text is <i>not</i> a
                                                          photo of
                                                          Johnson and
                                                          Weld, but of
                                                          Johnson and a
                                                          woman I'm
                                                          guessing is
                                                          his girlfriend
                                                          (which is
                                                          fine, but
                                                          should be
                                                          labeled as
                                                          such so as not
                                                          to give
                                                          visitors the
                                                          impression
                                                          that the
                                                          images reflect
                                                          the text).</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• Our
                                                          bylaws are
                                                          referred to in
                                                          the info at
                                                          the bottom of
                                                          each page as
                                                          "LNC Bylaws"
                                                          rather than
                                                          "Libertarian
                                                          Party Bylaws"</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>• A
                                                          number of
                                                          people (staff,
                                                          LNC members)
                                                          are missing
                                                          photos. To
                                                          whom can we
                                                          send photos of
                                                          these
                                                          individuals,
                                                          if we have
                                                          them, as well
                                                          as our contact
                                                          info updates
                                                          for the LNC
                                                          page?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>I
                                                          realize the
                                                          site has just
                                                          been updated;
                                                          hopefully some
                                                          of the above
                                                          issues are
                                                          being
                                                          addressed even
                                                          as I type this
                                                          message. And
                                                          on the bright
                                                          side, the new
                                                          "candidate
                                                          pledges"
                                                          section       
                                                           listing
                                                          candidates
                                                          who've signed
                                                          each pledge is
                                                          a nice
                                                          addition,
                                                          along with the
                                                          listing by
                                                          name and state
                                                          of life
                                                          members,
                                                          candidates,
                                                          and elected
                                                          officials, not
                                                          to mention the
                                                          attractive
                                                          photos from
                                                          the convention
                                                          scattered
                                                          throughout the
                                                          site. I like
                                                          that the
                                                          membership and
                                                          donation forms
                                                          are
                                                          single-page,
                                                          and that the
                                                          FAQ page
                                                          addresses
                                                          arguments
                                                          against
                                                          participating
                                                          in the system
                                                          at all. And I
                                                          love the "Help
                                                          Us Grow" page
                                                          (<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://libparty.zocalodesign.com/how-to-help/" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">http://libparty.zocalodesign.<wbr>com/how-to-help/</a>)
                                                          and the
                                                          addition of a
                                                          "worldwide"
                                                          link in
                                                          addition to
                                                          the state
                                                          affiliates and
                                                          campus
                                                          organizations!
                                                          But I would
                                                          suggest that
                                                          link directly
                                                          to a list of
                                                          the
                                                          libertarian
                                                          parties around
                                                          the world,
                                                          with that page
                                                          then
                                                          containing a
                                                          link to and
                                                          information
                                                          about the
                                                          International
                                                          Alliance of
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Parties. Right
                                                          now it
                                                          immediately
                                                          leads offsite
                                                          to the IALP
                                                          page, which is
                                                          a little
                                                          confusing.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341m_-8478872869291648195Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>That's
                                                          my feedback at
                                                          this time. If
                                                          staff would
                                                          acknowledge
                                                          receipt of
                                                          this message
                                                          and keep us
                                                          appraised of
                                                          the progress
                                                          in addressing
                                                          the
                                                          above-mentioned
                                                          issues, that
                                                          would be
                                                          great.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Love
                                                          & Liberty,</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                    (((
                                                          starchild )))</div>
                                                          <div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                 (415)
                                                          625-FREE</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                 
                                                           @StarchildSF</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290h5">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <span
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341Apple-style-span"
style="color:#000000"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 10:59
                                                          PM, Ken
                                                          Moellman <span
                                                          dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ken.moellman@lpky.org"
                                                          target="_blank">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div
                                                          style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <div> <br
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341webkit-block-placeholder">
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I've been
                                                          involved in
                                                          lots of
                                                          various
                                                          projects
                                                          throughout my
                                                          IT career. 
                                                          This website
                                                          project seems
                                                          to fit the
                                                          stereotypical IT
                                                          project. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>I
                                                          personally
                                                          don't like the
                                                          layout of the
                                                          website, but
                                                          I'm a grumpy
                                                          "old" man who
                                                          still
                                                          likes 2006-era website
                                                          layouts with
                                                          drop-down
                                                          menus and
                                                          whatnot.  The
                                                          design we
                                                          need, however,
                                                          is one
                                                          targeted
                                                          at millenials. 
                                                          We know this
                                                          because of the
                                                          Johnson
                                                          campaign's
                                                          polling. 
                                                          That's the
                                                          future of this
                                                          party.  I
                                                          believe that
                                                          this website
                                                          accomplishes
                                                          that task. 
                                                          I'd be
                                                          interested to
                                                          see how it
                                                          looks on a
                                                          mobile (I'm
                                                          also still
                                                          using a
                                                          Blackberry.
                                                          Don't ask.)</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Kevin -
                                                          Thank you for
                                                          continuing
                                                          onward with
                                                          this project,
                                                          even though
                                                          you are no
                                                          longer on the
                                                          LNC. As one
                                                          who's been
                                                          embroiled in
                                                          volunteer
                                                          projects that
                                                          have run over
                                                          time and over
                                                          budget, I know
                                                          how much of a
                                                          PITA it is to
                                                          put the time
                                                          in and also
                                                          take the
                                                          inevitable
                                                          hits. I'm sure
                                                          you're all too
                                                          aware, as
                                                          well. But I
                                                          wanted to make
                                                          sure you knew
                                                          that at least
                                                          I knew and
                                                          recognized
                                                          what's up.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Chuck,
                                                          and others
                                                          with concerns
                                                          - Let's make a
                                                          list of the
                                                          "what's
                                                          wrong", try to
                                                          prioritize
                                                          that list
                                                          based on
                                                          importance and
                                                          easy
                                                          of resolution,
                                                          and try to
                                                          work through
                                                          them.  Any
                                                          website
                                                          changeover
                                                          will take time
                                                          to fix. I know
                                                          there are some
                                                          "broken links"
                                                          where people
                                                          externally
                                                          linked things
                                                          like <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://LP.org/join" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">LP.org/join</a>
                                                          ...  I have a
                                                          cool graphic
                                                          from The
                                                          Advocates that
                                                          we used on <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://LPKY.org/" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">LPKY.org</a>
                                                          that has the
                                                          same problem.
                                                          These can ad
                                                          should be
                                                          resolved. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>As the
                                                          new IT
                                                          committee is
                                                          formed, I'm
                                                          sure we'll be
                                                          tasked
                                                          with assessing
                                                          these issues
                                                          and
                                                          implementing
                                                          fixes. I ask
                                                          that everyone
                                                          please be
                                                          patient. We
                                                          have 2 weeks
                                                          until the
                                                          election is
                                                          over.  If
                                                          there's
                                                          anything
                                                          election-related
                                                          that's not
                                                          working, then
                                                          we definitely
                                                          need to
                                                          address that
                                                          immediately. 
                                                          Otherwise,
                                                          let's get
                                                          through Nov
                                                          8th and then
                                                          we can push
                                                          forward with
                                                          this and other
                                                          projects.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
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                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-10-25
                                                          23:38, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <p>Thank you
                                                          Kevin.  I will
                                                          cool my jets
                                                          on that issue
                                                          for a few days
                                                          and check back
                                                          in.</p>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
                                                          </span></span>
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                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          October 25,
                                                          2016, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ludlow@gmail.com" target="_blank">ludlow@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:#cccccc;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;margin:0px
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                                                          <div>No
                                                          problem,
                                                          Caryn.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I wouldn't
                                                          even think
                                                          days.  I would
                                                          think A day. 
                                                          Staff was
                                                          tasked with
                                                          taking each
                                                          page from the
                                                          old Drupal
                                                          system and
                                                          importing it
                                                          into the new
                                                          one.  As far
                                                          as I know ALL
                                                          pages were
                                                          copied over. 
                                                          They were
                                                          copied into 1
                                                          of 6 (or so)
                                                          different page
                                                          templates that
                                                          were created
                                                          to serve
                                                          different
                                                          formats of
                                                          data.  So I'm
                                                          certain we
                                                          have
                                                          everything. 
                                                          Even if it
                                                          hadn't been
                                                          copied over,
                                                          we still have
                                                          it and it
                                                          would just
                                                          need TO BE
                                                          copied over,
                                                          but I don't
                                                          believe this
                                                          is the case. 
                                                          I believe in
                                                          those cases
                                                          the links
                                                          structure may
                                                          have changed. 
                                                          We have been
                                                          updating these
                                                          so that all
                                                          incoming links
                                                          to the old
                                                          structure
                                                          point to the
                                                          appropriate
                                                          new structure
                                                          and send out
                                                          PERMANENT
                                                          REDIRECT
                                                          notifications
                                                          to Google and
                                                          such (so
                                                          things are
                                                          updated).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          ~k</div>
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                                                          <div>
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                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 10:28
                                                          PM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <blockquote
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
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                                                          you Kevin.
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                                                          <div>That is
                                                          why I was
                                                          asking staff
                                                          about them. 
                                                          If we are
                                                          talking a
                                                          matter of days
                                                          for that
                                                          content - that
                                                          is
                                                          reasonable. 
                                                          If moreso, not
                                                          so much.</div>
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                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
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                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          October 25,
                                                          2016, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow <<a
moz-do-not-send="true">ludlow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Caryn,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I genuinely am
                                                          not trying to
                                                          avoid those
                                                          issues.  I
                                                          know content
                                                          is there. 
                                                          What I'm
                                                          trying to
                                                          convey is that
                                                          from my point
                                                          of view, if
                                                          those
                                                          documents are
                                                          "opaque" for
                                                          another 12
                                                          hours, I'm
                                                          okay with
                                                          that.  I
                                                          realize you
                                                          might not be,
                                                          but this goes
                                                          back to my
                                                          volunteering
                                                          work.  I have
                                                          to prioritize
                                                          work that I am
                                                          personally
                                                          responsible
                                                          for.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          So I will
                                                          happily weigh
                                                          in with staff
                                                          and get links
                                                          to them.  I
                                                          can even check
                                                          the admin
                                                          pages and see
                                                          what the
                                                          current URL is
                                                          provided they
                                                          have been
                                                          copied and not
                                                          linked.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          But I really
                                                          need to know
                                                          if anything is
                                                          actually not
                                                          functioning. 
                                                          This is what
                                                          my current
                                                          workload is.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I apologize if
                                                          any of that
                                                          sounds
                                                          dismissive. 
                                                          It's not my
                                                          intent, but I
                                                          can't do
                                                          specific
                                                          projects for
                                                          you and/or
                                                          Chuck or the
                                                          LNC or
                                                          whomever else
                                                          right now as I
                                                          need to make
                                                          sure the site
                                                          is fully
                                                          functional. 
                                                          If/when it IS
                                                          fully
                                                          functional
                                                          (which it very
                                                          well may
                                                          already be),
                                                          then we can
                                                          address any
                                                          missing
                                                          pieces.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          ~k</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                          <div
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
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                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 10:15
                                                          PM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5">Thank
                                                          you Kevin for
                                                          all your
                                                          work. <span></span>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I can't
                                                          though not
                                                          desire answers
                                                          on the minutes
                                                          archives and
                                                          LNC business
                                                          list not being
                                                          there.  That
                                                          is essential
                                                          for members
                                                          and cannot be
                                                          optional.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Can staff
                                                          answer when
                                                          those can be
                                                          restored? 
                                                          This is an
                                                          acceptable
                                                          situation of
                                                          opacity.</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
                                                          </span></span>
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                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          October 25,
                                                          2016, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow <<a
moz-do-not-send="true">ludlow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
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style="border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:#cccccc;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;margin:0px
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                                                          <div>Caryn,<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          I've always
                                                          gotten along
                                                          with you just
                                                          fine as you're
                                                          very
                                                          reasonable.<br>
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                                                          In this case,
                                                          I respectfully
                                                          disagree that
                                                          it's useful to
                                                          deliver a
                                                          6-page rant
                                                          citing the "I
                                                          told you so"
                                                          lines when the
                                                          decision has
                                                          been done,
                                                          executed, and
                                                          is live. 
                                                          Further, I
                                                          have been in
                                                          this business
                                                          for 20 years
                                                          now.  We had
                                                          roughly 2.5
                                                          hours of
                                                          outages this
                                                          morning
                                                          between
                                                          roughly 7:45AM
                                                          and 9:15AM
                                                          EST.  This was
                                                          only because
                                                          of the
                                                          unknown. 
                                                          Staff has
                                                          spent a lot of
                                                          time testing
                                                          this
                                                          software.  It
                                                          was rolled
                                                          over twice
                                                          already and
                                                          rolled back
                                                          just to ensure
                                                          we COULD roll
                                                          it back if
                                                          there was a
                                                          major
                                                          problem.  The
                                                          point being
                                                          that we
                                                          transitioned
                                                          an entire
                                                          infrastructure
                                                          from 6
                                                          services to
                                                          ONE, the
                                                          monthly cost
                                                          savings should
                                                          be about $500
                                                          once
                                                          everything is
                                                          in place, and
                                                          best I can
                                                          tell nothing
                                                          is broken -
                                                          there are just
                                                          complaints
                                                          that some
                                                          things are
                                                          missing (which
                                                          they're
                                                          definitely
                                                          not, but I'll
                                                          concede that
                                                          perhaps staff
                                                          hasn't
                                                          finished
                                                          adding links -
                                                          I honestly
                                                          don't know
                                                          right now).<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          There are no
                                                          major problems
                                                          that anyone
                                                          has reported
                                                          save for the
                                                          overloading
                                                          this morning. 
                                                          The page
                                                          content was
                                                          always
                                                          intended to /
                                                          has been / and
                                                          IS preserved. 
                                                          If a link
                                                          isn't
                                                          immediately
                                                          visible, then
                                                          staff can
                                                          correct that
                                                          if
                                                          appropriate.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          IF there are
                                                          broken links,
                                                          namely as a
                                                          URL may have
                                                          changed and
                                                          needs to be
                                                          forwarded now,
                                                          I would
                                                          really,
                                                          genuinely like
                                                          to know so I
                                                          can fix those
                                                          problems.  I
                                                          offered that
                                                          to Chuck.  I
                                                          offered it to
                                                          you.<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          That said, we
                                                          can start
                                                          however
                                                          necessary.  I
                                                          have
                                                          ostensibly
                                                          worked on this
                                                          for 3.5
                                                          straight
                                                          weeks.  That
                                                          is not because
                                                          of the website
                                                          itself, but
                                                          rather the
                                                          years of
                                                          garbaged up
                                                          infrastructure. 
                                                          We would have
                                                          rolled the
                                                          site out 6
                                                          weeks ago if
                                                          not for all of
                                                          that.  My
                                                          point being
                                                          that I've been
                                                          voluntarily
                                                          taking on FAR
                                                          more work than
                                                          was entailed
                                                          in the website
                                                          redesign
                                                          itself because
                                                          our
                                                          infrastructure
                                                          couldn't
                                                          handle the
                                                          modern
                                                          codebase (it
                                                          is roughly 8
                                                          years out of
                                                          spec).<br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          I would ask
                                                          that you leave
                                                          whatever
                                                          issues you
                                                          have with
                                                          content alone
                                                          for the time
                                                          being.  I'm
                                                          not saying
                                                          they won't be
                                                          addressed, I'm
                                                          saying that
                                                          it's not a
                                                          primary
                                                          concern.  The
                                                          primary
                                                          concern is
                                                          ensuring that
                                                          the site is
                                                          running so it
                                                          can serve up
                                                          any content. 
                                                          IF there is a
                                                          problem with
                                                          something not
                                                          loading, we
                                                          need to know
                                                          that.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Staff has
                                                          copied over
                                                          existing pages
                                                          and so nothing
                                                          is lost or
                                                          destroyed or
                                                          anything of
                                                          this sort.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I need to
                                                          convey though,
                                                          that I am not
                                                          on the clock
                                                          for the people
                                                          on this
                                                          thread.  I
                                                          have been, and
                                                          am continuing
                                                          to volunteer a
                                                          tremendous
                                                          amount of time
                                                          to ensure this
                                                          is completed
                                                          smoothly.  I
                                                          am happy to
                                                          try and fix
                                                          things that
                                                          are broken. 
                                                          I'm very
                                                          uninterested
                                                          in listening
                                                          to Mr. Molton
                                                          rant on about
                                                          his discontent
                                                          with the
                                                          structure. 
                                                          It's done. 
                                                          That ship
                                                          sailed in
                                                          February.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So that's
                                                          where I'm at. 
                                                          By all means,
                                                          please inform
                                                          me of broken
                                                          pieces so we
                                                          can look at
                                                          and correct
                                                          anything ASAP.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>~k</div>
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                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 10:01
                                                          PM, Caryn Ann
                                                          Harlos <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <blockquote
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>He was
                                                          writing as a
                                                          member to a
                                                          busy elected
                                                          to SERVE
                                                          members.  That
                                                          means
                                                          sometimes we
                                                          will hear
                                                          things we
                                                          don't want to
                                                          and have to
                                                          respond to
                                                          very upset
                                                          complaints. 
                                                          No matter what
                                                          anyone says  -
                                                          high-handed
                                                          responses are
                                                          not
                                                          appropriate
                                                          IMHO.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I didn't
                                                          agree with
                                                          Chuck's desire
                                                          to see heads
                                                          roll.  I said
                                                          so
                                                          respectfully,</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          Can we start
                                                          again?
                                                          <div> </div>
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style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <span><span><span
style="font-size:small"><span
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
                                                          </span></span></span></span>
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                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong
                                                          style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span
style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:small"><span
style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          October 25,
                                                          2016, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow <<a
moz-do-not-send="true">ludlow@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Chuck
                                                          opened with
                                                          whoever made
                                                          the decision
                                                          was a MORON
                                                          and should be
                                                          FIRED. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I think
                                                          my response
                                                          was in line. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Regardless,
                                                          I remain open
                                                          to seeing
                                                          links broken.
                                                          I'm sure some
                                                          still exist.
                                                          We launched
                                                          the site this
                                                          morning. Staff
                                                          has spent
                                                          weeks testing
                                                          the site and
                                                          fixing links
                                                          and such. I'm
                                                          all for fixing
                                                          dead links,
                                                          but 6 pages of
                                                          complaints
                                                          without any
                                                          information is
                                                          not helpful. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Also, I'm
                                                          not a member
                                                          of the LNC.
                                                          I'm a
                                                          volunteer
                                                          only. So I
                                                          don't really
                                                          owe anyone
                                                          anything. I've
                                                          delightfully
                                                          put in a
                                                          couple hundred
                                                          hours so far.
                                                          That's the
                                                          best I'm
                                                          willing to do
                                                          at this point
                                                          given such a
                                                          response. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          October 25,
                                                          2016, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>>
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <blockquote
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style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                          that was an
                                                          inappropriate
                                                          response to
                                                          concerns of a
                                                          member IMHO-
                                                          his concerns
                                                          are valid and
                                                          shouldn't be
                                                          dismissed as
                                                          "oh you
                                                          Libertarians,
                                                          you are a
                                                          minority - we
                                                          can safely
                                                          ignore you."
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Where are
                                                          the links to
                                                          the LNC
                                                          Business list,
                                                          the old blog
                                                          articles, and
                                                          the past
                                                          minutes?  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Can we
                                                          have the
                                                          discussion
                                                          without
                                                          sarcasm and
                                                          without
                                                          putting down
                                                          Libertarians
                                                          as
                                                          inconsequential?</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>-- <br>
                                                          <div>
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                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>In
                                                          Liberty,</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                                          Director, <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party of
                                                          Colorado</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>
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                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 8:19
                                                          PM, Kevin
                                                          Ludlow <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true">ludlow@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hey
                                                          Chuck,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Thanks for the
                                                          constructive
                                                          feedback.  <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I'll
                                                          delightfully
                                                          take
                                                          credit/responsibility
                                                          for whatever
                                                          and all
                                                          actions you've
                                                          written
                                                          about.  Please
                                                          pardon Nick,
                                                          Robert, Wes,
                                                          and anybody
                                                          else in your
                                                          crosshairs. 
                                                          I'm sure
                                                          they'll be
                                                          relieved to be
                                                          spared.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          I'm not going
                                                          to read that
                                                          entire
                                                          document
                                                          you've sent as
                                                          I've spent the
                                                          last 3 weeks
                                                          trying to fix
                                                          the party's
                                                          infrastructure
                                                          for the
                                                          website TO go
                                                          live.  It was
                                                          finished two
                                                          days ago, it
                                                          was launched
                                                          last night. 
                                                          That was my
                                                          call.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          What would be
                                                          useful right
                                                          now would be
                                                          if you could
                                                          point out the
                                                          broken links
                                                          so that we can
                                                          assign
                                                          permanent
                                                          redirects to
                                                          them.  Any
                                                          page content
                                                          that existed
                                                          STILL exists. 
                                                          This has been
                                                          made clear
                                                          over and over
                                                          again.  It's
                                                          possible that
                                                          some page
                                                          links have not
                                                          been
                                                          forwarded, but
                                                          I've been
                                                          monitoring
                                                          logs on all 4
                                                          servers all
                                                          day and have
                                                          not seen many
                                                          404s.  The
                                                          downtime this
                                                          morning wasn't
                                                          actually from
                                                          an outage, but
                                                          rather ME
                                                          under-predicting
                                                          the load our
                                                          servers would
                                                          take.  This is
                                                          admittedly
                                                          because I
                                                          didn't have
                                                          any data to go
                                                          on because --
                                                          well -- we've
                                                          not really
                                                          ever kept any
                                                          before.  I
                                                          made the best
                                                          prediction I
                                                          could; I way
                                                          under-estimated. 
                                                          The servers
                                                          were scaled up
                                                          and unless
                                                          you're seeing
                                                          something
                                                          different, the
                                                          site has been
                                                          running fine
                                                          all day since
                                                          about 9:45am
                                                          CST.  It was
                                                          running before
                                                          that just fine
                                                          too, but the
                                                          morning surge
                                                          in traffic
                                                          overwhelmed
                                                          it. <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          So anyway, if
                                                          you'd like to
                                                          submit broken
                                                          links, we'd
                                                          love to set up
                                                          additional
                                                          forwards. 
                                                          Overall
                                                          though, I'm
                                                          pretty happy
                                                          with the
                                                          change.  I'm
                                                          happy we've
                                                          done it before
                                                          the election -
                                                          even if it
                                                          wound up being
                                                          delayed from
                                                          our proposed
                                                          launch of
                                                          September
                                                          29th.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          The old site
                                                          was very, very
                                                          bad.  I know
                                                          you're a tech
                                                          guy all the
                                                          way.  I know
                                                          words resonate
                                                          with you and
                                                          not colors and
                                                          images and
                                                          feelings and
                                                          emotions.  But
                                                          you comprise a
                                                          very, very,
                                                          VERY small
                                                          portion of the
                                                          American
                                                          electorate and
                                                          the new site
                                                          was designed
                                                          to appeal to
                                                          people who are
                                                          visually
                                                          oriented, not
                                                          interested in
                                                          reading walls
                                                          of text, and
                                                          might have the
                                                          attention span
                                                          of a few
                                                          seconds at
                                                          best (eg: the
                                                          vast majority
                                                          of people). 
                                                          It was
                                                          designed for
                                                          people who
                                                          might not care
                                                          about the
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party - in
                                                          hopes that
                                                          something
                                                          grabs their
                                                          attention and
                                                          they begin to
                                                          care.  We
                                                          don't need to
                                                          "win over"
                                                          existing
                                                          Libertarians
                                                          -- or at least
                                                          one would
                                                          think, but
                                                          it's honestly
                                                          hard to tell
                                                          these days. 
                                                          Regardless, it
                                                          was decided. 
                                                          It's done. 
                                                          You can hate
                                                          it.  But I'd
                                                          still love
                                                          your help in
                                                          knowing where
                                                          links are
                                                          broken instead
                                                          of mostly
                                                          ignoring
                                                          another wall
                                                          of text.  That
                                                          would help
                                                          ensure that
                                                          it's in good
                                                          shape.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>If you'd
                                                          like to vent
                                                          further, feel
                                                          free to call
                                                          me at <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">512-773-3968</a>
                                                          to spare the
                                                          group.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          Sincerely,</div>
                                                          Kevin</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5">On
                                                          Tue, Oct 25,
                                                          2016 at 8:56
                                                          PM, Chuck
                                                          Moulton <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true">chuck@moulton.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5">LNC
                                                          members,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Many of the
                                                          problems I
                                                          warned about
                                                          have in fact
                                                          come to pass. 
                                                          It is
                                                          Cassandra's
                                                          Curse: always
                                                          right but
                                                          never
                                                          believed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          See the
                                                          exchange from
                                                          IPR quoted
                                                          below (in the
                                                          P.S.) for
                                                          context and
                                                          institutional
                                                          memory.  I'll
                                                          quote and
                                                          discuss some
                                                          of the
                                                          highlights
                                                          here.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          WARNING #1:
                                                          TRANSITIONS
                                                          CAN BE
                                                          BOTCHED,
                                                          LEADING TO
                                                          DOWNTIME — AT
                                                          THE WORST TIME
                                                          IN THE
                                                          ELECTION CYCLE
                                                          FOR SUCH
                                                          DOWNTIME: THE
                                                          PRESIDENTIAL
                                                          CAMPAIGN.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          This buggy
                                                          transition was
                                                          implemented 13
                                                          days before
                                                          the
                                                          presidential
                                                          election. 
                                                          That is the
                                                          13th worst day
                                                          in a 4 year
                                                          cycle to
                                                          unveil a new a
                                                          new website. 
                                                          There were/are
                                                          1,448 better
                                                          days to change
                                                          to a new
                                                          website in a 4
                                                          year cycle.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Whatever MORON
                                                          decided to
                                                          switch to a
                                                          new website
                                                          today instead
                                                          of after the
                                                          election
                                                          should be
                                                          immediately
                                                          FIRED.  Do not
                                                          pass go, do
                                                          not collect
                                                          $200.  FIRED. 
                                                          I can't
                                                          imagine a
                                                          stupider, more
                                                          incompetent,
                                                          strategically
                                                          insane
                                                          decision than
                                                          pulling the
                                                          plug on a
                                                          working
                                                          website and
                                                          trying out a
                                                          new, buggy
                                                          website
                                                          immediately
                                                          before a
                                                          presidential
                                                          election.  It
                                                          is INSANE.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I like staff,
                                                          but if Wes
                                                          Benedict made
                                                          this idiotic
                                                          decision, FIRE
                                                          HIM
                                                          IMMEDIATELY.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I like much of
                                                          the LNC, but
                                                          if Nick
                                                          Sarwark made
                                                          this idiotic
                                                          decision,
                                                          SUSPEND HIM
                                                          FOR CAUSE
                                                          IMMEDIATELY
                                                          (I'll gladly
                                                          recuse myself
                                                          as a member of
                                                          the Judicial
                                                          Committee if
                                                          he appeals).<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If Kevin
                                                          Ludlow made
                                                          this idiotic
                                                          decision,
                                                          RESCIND THE
                                                          FEBRUARY 2016
                                                          MOTION GIVING
                                                          LUDLOW
                                                          UNILATERAL
                                                          AUTHORITY OVER
                                                          THE LP'S MOST
                                                          IMPORTANT
                                                          ASSET
                                                          IMMEDIATELY.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Everything we
                                                          were told
                                                          about a
                                                          professional
                                                          transition
                                                          that does not
                                                          suffer from
                                                          the pitfalls I
                                                          highlighted
                                                          was a lie.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It takes
                                                          significantly
                                                          more time for
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lp.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lp.org</a> pages
                                                          to load than
                                                          before. The
                                                          site has been
                                                          down on &
                                                          off all day
                                                          long.  For a
                                                          while people
                                                          were directed
                                                          to another
                                                          domain
                                                          whenever they
                                                          went to a LP
                                                          page: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://libparty.zocalodesign.com/" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">libparty.zocalodesign.com</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          WARNING #2: A
                                                          LOT OF CONTENT
                                                          IS REMOVED.
                                                          LACK OF THAT
                                                          CONTENT MAKES
                                                          IT MUCH HARDER
                                                          TO ENERGIZE
                                                          PROSPECTS; GET
                                                          DONATIONS,
                                                          VOLUNTEERS,
                                                          AND
                                                          CANDIDATES;
                                                          AND TRAIN
                                                          LIBERTARIANS
                                                          ON BEST
                                                          PRACTICES.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In fact (as
                                                          predicted), a
                                                          lot of content
                                                          has been
                                                          removed from <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://lp.org/" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">lp.org</a>.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          For example,
                                                          as chair of
                                                          the Judicial
                                                          Committee I
                                                          wonder what
                                                          happened to
                                                          the webpage
                                                          listing bylaws
                                                          mandated
                                                          committee
                                                          members?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Where is the
                                                          link to the LP
                                                          Business list?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Where are the
                                                          LNC minute
                                                          archives
                                                          before 2015?<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I could go on
                                                          and on, but I
                                                          cover this
                                                          point more
                                                          broadly in my
                                                          next unheeded
                                                          warning.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I was
                                                          repeatedly
                                                          assured that
                                                          content would
                                                          not be
                                                          removed,
                                                          except that
                                                          the front page
                                                          would be made
                                                          less
                                                          cluttered. 
                                                          That was a
                                                          lie.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          WARNING #3:
                                                          BOTH CONTENT
                                                          REMOVAL AND
                                                          TRANSITIONS TO
                                                          A NEW SYSTEM
                                                          MAY LEAD SOME
                                                          PAGES TO BE
                                                          REMOVED OR
                                                          MOVED,
                                                          BREAKING LINKS
                                                          TO PARTS OF
                                                          THE SITE FROM
                                                          ALL AROUND THE
                                                          INTERNET AND
                                                          MAKING US LOOK
                                                          UNPROFESSIONAL
                                                          WITH 404
                                                          ERRORS.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The number of
                                                          404 errors is
                                                          shocking! 
                                                          Activists have
                                                          been out there
                                                          for months /
                                                          years
                                                          promoting our
                                                          website by
                                                          linking to it
                                                          -- especially
                                                          during this
                                                          presidential
                                                          election. 
                                                          Most of those
                                                          links are now
                                                          broken.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Just try
                                                          clicking on
                                                          many of these
                                                          links:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=site%3Alp.org&oq=site%3Alp.org"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/search?<wbr>site=&source=hp&q=site%3Alp.or<wbr>g&oq=site%3Alp.org</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I've been told
                                                          the solution
                                                          is just to
                                                          report each
                                                          broken link. 
                                                          That is
                                                          ridiculous! 
                                                          It is
                                                          completely
                                                          unprofessional
                                                          for a website
                                                          transition to
                                                          be reactive
                                                          instead of
                                                          proactive --
                                                          especially
                                                          given that
                                                          broken links
                                                          probably
                                                          number in the
                                                          thousands.  We
                                                          were assured
                                                          that this
                                                          would be a
                                                          professional
                                                          transition,
                                                          but that was a
                                                          lie.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          WARNING #4: A
                                                          NEW SYSTEM
                                                          REQUIRES
                                                          RETRAINING
                                                          STAFF ON
                                                          PROCESSES —
                                                          TIME THAT
                                                          COULD HAVE
                                                          BEEN DEVOTED
                                                          TO OTHER
                                                          THINGS.  EVEN
                                                          AFTER
                                                          RETRAINING
                                                          THERE WILL BE
                                                          A LEARNING
                                                          CURVE... EXTRA
                                                          TIME FOR
                                                          WEBSITE
                                                          RELATED TASKS
                                                          THAT COULD
                                                          HAVE BEEN
                                                          DEVOTED TO
                                                          OTHER THINGS.
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          In fact (as
                                                          predicted),
                                                          staff has
                                                          mentioned that
                                                          the website
                                                          transition has
                                                          taken staff
                                                          time that
                                                          could have
                                                          been devoted
                                                          to other
                                                          matters in
                                                          this busy
                                                          election
                                                          season.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Wes Benedict
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2016/006577.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc<wbr>-business_hq.lp.org/2016/00657<wbr>7.html</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">I
                                                          hope we can
                                                          get those
                                                          things below
                                                          implemented
                                                          early in 2017,<br>
                                                          however, and
                                                          get back to
                                                          LPedia and
                                                          many other
                                                          projects, but
                                                          first<br>
                                                          we're trying
                                                          to roll out
                                                          the new <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://LP.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">LP.org</a>
                                                          website.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          WARNING #5:
                                                          INTERNAL
                                                          SCRIPTS THAT
                                                          CURRENTLY
                                                          AUTOMATICALLY
                                                          SHOOT DATA TO
                                                          STATE
                                                          AFFILIATES
                                                          SUCH AS THE
                                                          VOLUNTEER
                                                          FORM, THE WANT
                                                          TO BE A
                                                          CANDIDATE
                                                          FORM, THE INFO
                                                          FORM, ETC. MAY
                                                          STOP WORKING,
                                                          WHICH WOULD
                                                          DEPRIVE STATES
                                                          OF A VALUABLE
                                                          SOURCE OF
                                                          LEADS DURING A
                                                          TRANSITION
                                                          PERIOD.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Do these all
                                                          still work?  I
                                                          don't know.  I
                                                          can't
                                                          currently test
                                                          this as I am
                                                          not a state
                                                          chair right
                                                          now.  I hope
                                                          someone is
                                                          testing this
                                                          stuff.  Based
                                                          on all of the
                                                          other
                                                          monumental
                                                          errors
                                                          highlighted
                                                          above, I
                                                          certainly
                                                          don't trust
                                                          whoever
                                                          oversaw the
                                                          website
                                                          transition to
                                                          have done this
                                                          testing.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          You all made a
                                                          monumental
                                                          error when you
                                                          voted on this
                                                          website. 
                                                          Please do
                                                          whatever you
                                                          can to
                                                          minimize the
                                                          damage and
                                                          triage the
                                                          website that
                                                          is being
                                                          butchered
                                                          before your
                                                          very eyes.  I
                                                          hope the lost
                                                          content can be
                                                          restored and
                                                          the bugs can
                                                          be fixed
                                                          ASAP.  Even if
                                                          everything is
                                                          fixed within
                                                          the next week
                                                          though, the
                                                          timing is
                                                          still
                                                          horrendous.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Chuck Moulton<br>
                                                          Life Member
                                                          & Monthly
                                                          Pledger,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          P.S. See below
                                                          for context on
                                                          this botched
                                                          website
                                                          transition and
                                                          eerily
                                                          accurate
                                                          prophesies
                                                          from people
                                                          with a clue.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Kevin Ludlow
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2016/004164.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc<wbr>-business_hq.lp.org/2016/00416<wbr>4.html</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">1)
                                                          Our website is
                                                          a joke. I mean
                                                          a real,
                                                          horrible,
                                                          laughable,
                                                          "maybe<br>
                                                          it's 1996 and
                                                          the www
                                                          portion of the
                                                          internet has
                                                          just been<br>
                                                          unleashed"
                                                          joke. It's got
                                                          ridiculous
                                                          internal ads
                                                          all over it.
                                                          It's<br>
                                                          terribly
                                                          organized. It
                                                          uses bad
                                                          images. It has
                                                          an outdated
                                                          font, not<br>
                                                          great font
                                                          colors, and
                                                          antiquated
                                                          font-spacing
                                                          and sizing. It
                                                          barely<br>
                                                          functions on
                                                          mobile
                                                          devices. It's
                                                          full of
                                                          information it
                                                          doesn't need<br>
                                                          to have. It
                                                          conveys that
                                                          we're not a
                                                          serious
                                                          organization.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Kevin Ludlow
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc-business_hq.lp.org/2016/004283.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/pipermail/lnc<wbr>-business_hq.lp.org/2016/00428<wbr>3.html</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">We
                                                          want to do all
                                                          of these
                                                          things. So I'm
                                                          asking you,
                                                          just stop what<br>
                                                          you're doing
                                                          for 30
                                                          seconds,
                                                          reflect what
                                                          could happen
                                                          if we<br>
                                                          actually tried
                                                          to accomplish
                                                          this one
                                                          little task.
                                                          What is the
                                                          WORST<br>
                                                          that could
                                                          happen? We
                                                          fail? We're in
                                                          a very
                                                          slightly worse
                                                          financial<br>
                                                          position than
                                                          we already
                                                          are? But now
                                                          consider what
                                                          is the BEST
                                                          that<br>
                                                          could happen?
                                                          Maybe this
                                                          tailspin of a
                                                          cash hole
                                                          we're in
                                                          stops.<br>
                                                          MAYBE people
                                                          would see that
                                                          the LNC is
                                                          doing
                                                          something
                                                          external.<br>
                                                          MAYBE people
                                                          would have
                                                          their morale
                                                          boosted just a
                                                          little bit and<br>
                                                          be more
                                                          inclined to
                                                          donate. MAYBE
                                                          we could use
                                                          it as a way to<br>
                                                          leverage
                                                          requesting
                                                          donations from
                                                          people.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Chuck Moulton
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1321872"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1321872</a><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5">What's
                                                          the worst that
                                                          can happen?
                                                          It's not
                                                          $20,000
                                                          wasted. That
                                                          is<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          pretty stupid
                                                          thinking
                                                          there...
                                                          accounting
                                                          rather than
                                                          economics. The<span><br>
                                                          worst that can
                                                          happen is the
                                                          site is much
                                                          worse than
                                                          before. A lot<br>
                                                          of content is
                                                          removed. Lack
                                                          of that
                                                          content makes
                                                          it much harder
                                                          to<br>
                                                          energize
                                                          prospects; get
                                                          donations,
                                                          volunteers,
                                                          and
                                                          candidates;
                                                          and<br>
                                                          train
                                                          libertarians
                                                          on best
                                                          practices. A
                                                          new system
                                                          requires<br>
                                                          retraining
                                                          staff on
                                                          processes —
                                                          time that
                                                          coupd have
                                                          been devoted
                                                          to<br>
                                                          </span> other
                                                          things. Even
                                                          after
                                                          retraining
                                                          there will be
                                                          a learning
                                                          curve...<span><br>
                                                          extra time for
                                                          website
                                                          related tasks
                                                          that could
                                                          have been
                                                          devoted to<br>
                                                          other things.
                                                          Will
                                                          conversion of
                                                          new visitors
                                                          go up with a
                                                          new<br>
                                                          flashy styled
                                                          website?
                                                          Maybe, but it
                                                          could also go
                                                          down, which is
                                                          a<br>
                                                          potential
                                                          cost. This is
                                                          especially
                                                          likely when
                                                          the focus is
                                                          on<br>
                                                          design/style
                                                          rather than
                                                          the technical
                                                          features under
                                                          the hood. When<br>
                                                          content is
                                                          removed it may
                                                          piss off
                                                          current donors
                                                          and activists,
                                                          who<br>
                                                          may reduce
                                                          their
                                                          donations and
                                                          activism. Both
                                                          content
                                                          removal and<br>
                                                          transitions to
                                                          a new system
                                                          may lead some
                                                          pages to be
                                                          removed or<br>
                                                          moved,
                                                          breaking links
                                                          to parts of
                                                          the site from
                                                          all around the<br>
                                                          Internet and
                                                          making us look
                                                          unprofessional
                                                          with 404
                                                          errors. New<br>
                                                          sites often
                                                          start out with
                                                          a few bugs and
                                                          errors which
                                                          can take a<br>
                                                          </span> while
                                                          to track
                                                          down... the
                                                          site may look
                                                          less
                                                          professional
                                                          in the<span><br>
                                                          interim.
                                                          Transitions
                                                          can be
                                                          botched,
                                                          leading to
                                                          downtime — at
                                                          the<br>
                                                          worst time in
                                                          the election
                                                          cycle for such
                                                          downtime: the
                                                          presidential<br>
                                                          campaign.
                                                          Internal
                                                          scripts that
                                                          currently
                                                          automatically
                                                          shoot data to<br>
                                                          state
                                                          affiliates
                                                          such as the
                                                          volunteer
                                                          form, the want
                                                          to be a<br>
                                                          candidate
                                                          form, the info
                                                          form, etc. may
                                                          stop working,
                                                          which would<br>
                                                          deprive states
                                                          of a valuable
                                                          source of
                                                          leads during a
                                                          transition<br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          period. That's
                                                          just what I
                                                          could come up
                                                          with off the
                                                          top of my
                                                          head...<span><br>
                                                          there are
                                                          probably a lot
                                                          more.</span></blockquote>
                                                          <span> <br>
                                                          Kevin Ludlow
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1321907"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1321907</a><br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex"><span>I've
                                                          launched many
                                                          large scale
                                                          sites just in
                                                          the past year
                                                          and not a<br>
                                                          single one of
                                                          those sites
                                                          had any of the
                                                          problems
                                                          you're
                                                          referring<br>
                                                          to. They DID –
                                                          when they were
                                                          on our
                                                          development
                                                          and testing
                                                          servers<br>
                                                          – but not when
                                                          they went into
                                                          production.
                                                          That's how web
                                                          launches<br>
                                                          are done
                                                          professionally.
                                                          A thorough
                                                          maintenance
                                                          schedule would
                                                          also<br>
                                                          be implemented
                                                          and the
                                                          website would
                                                          be designed
                                                          for minimal<br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          maintainability
                                                          in the first
                                                          place. ...also
                                                          in accordance
                                                          with best<br>
                                                          practices.</blockquote>
                                                          <span> <br>
                                                          Kevin Ludlow
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322226"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322226</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">Furthermore,
                                                          there is
                                                          absolutely NO
                                                          intention to
                                                          remove
                                                          Libertarian<br>
                                                          content from
                                                          the website.
                                                          This crowd has
                                                          an astounding
                                                          ability to<br>
                                                          spin
                                                          half-truths
                                                          and bake them
                                                          into something
                                                          entirely
                                                          different. I<br>
                                                          will clarify
                                                          specifically
                                                          what is meant
                                                          by moving them
                                                          around.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The FRONT PAGE
                                                          of a website
                                                          (for a
                                                          non-profit,
                                                          business, or
                                                          any<br>
                                                          other
                                                          organization)
                                                          is NOT to
                                                          leave people
                                                          with walls of
                                                          text. It is<br>
                                                          to create a
                                                          fast and
                                                          positive
                                                          impression and
                                                          to get a call
                                                          to<br>
                                                          action.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Having dozens
                                                          and dozens of
                                                          options is
                                                          incredibly
                                                          poor design,<br>
                                                          thoroughly
                                                          proven to be
                                                          ineffective,
                                                          and generally
                                                          an archaic<br>
                                                          website idea.
                                                          The current
                                                          website is not
                                                          responsive; it
                                                          does not work<br>
                                                          well (and not
                                                          at all in some
                                                          cases) on
                                                          mobile and
                                                          tablet
                                                          devices.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Chuck Moulton
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322257"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322257</a><br>
                                                          </span>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex"><span>Great!
                                                          Somehow in all
                                                          your emails to
                                                          the LNC (I
                                                          read every LNC<br>
                                                          business list
                                                          email) you
                                                          never
                                                          mentioned
                                                          anything about
                                                          the<br>
                                                          transition
                                                          process. All
                                                          you talk about
                                                          is
                                                          design/style.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If you can
                                                          manage a
                                                          transition
                                                          process well,
                                                          that's
                                                          wonderful. It<br>
                                                          certainly
                                                          hasn't been
                                                          done in the
                                                          past. The
                                                          transition
                                                          from FoxPro<br>
                                                          </span> to
                                                          Raiser's Edge
                                                          was a
                                                          disaster... it
                                                          resulted in
                                                          states not
                                                          receiving<span><br>
                                                          working dumps
                                                          for a year and
                                                          a lot of
                                                          records being
                                                          screwed up<br>
                                                          (e.g.,
                                                          deceased
                                                          coming back to
                                                          life, etc.).
                                                          During the
                                                          website<br>
                                                          transition a
                                                          decade ago,
                                                          the LNC
                                                          meeting
                                                          minutes
                                                          archive and
                                                          the<br>
                                                          Success 97 and
                                                          Success 99
                                                          seminars were
                                                          removed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          See the IT
                                                          Committee
                                                          discussion and
                                                          report (pp.
                                                          15-16, pp.
                                                          51-59):<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.lp.org/archives/lnc20061111.pdf" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/archives/ln<wbr>c20061111.pdf</a><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          If there will
                                                          be no
                                                          transition
                                                          hiccups,
                                                          that's
                                                          wonderful
                                                          news. You<br>
                                                          still didn't
                                                          address all
                                                          the scripts on
                                                          the website
                                                          right now and<br>
                                                          the technical
                                                          considerations
                                                          Shane
                                                          discussed.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          I'm concerned
                                                          about giving
                                                          management of
                                                          the transition
                                                          job who only<br>
                                                          </span> talks
                                                          about
                                                          design/style,
                                                          wants to
                                                          remove content
                                                          (supposedly...
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div
class="m_-7520360452250906315m_-7646747038558110815m_-8144310119133262581m_-7944694660060164572m_-5494815614505641290m_-1373288323387311341h5"><br>
                                                          though I see
                                                          you have now
                                                          clarified
                                                          that), and
                                                          never mentions
                                                          a<br>
                                                          transition
                                                          plan to
                                                          minimize
                                                          problems.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          It's great
                                                          that you're
                                                          finally
                                                          talking about
                                                          a transition
                                                          plan! It's<br>
                                                          not my fault
                                                          it's the first
                                                          I've heard of
                                                          it though.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          There are lots
                                                          of people in
                                                          the LP (myself
                                                          included) who
                                                          have seen<br>
                                                          transitions
                                                          mismanaged and
                                                          are worried of
                                                          a repeat of
                                                          those<br>
                                                          disasters.
                                                          We're not
                                                          saying the sky
                                                          is going to
                                                          fall because
                                                          of you.<br>
                                                          We're saying
                                                          the sky has
                                                          fallen in the
                                                          past, we have
                                                          documented<br>
                                                          evidence of
                                                          this, and you
                                                          don't seem as
                                                          on top of the
                                                          process as we<br>
                                                          would hope to
                                                          prevent
                                                          similar
                                                          problems. (You
                                                          also seem to
                                                          lack the<br>
                                                          institutional
                                                          memory to be
                                                          aware of these
                                                          past issues.)
                                                          That's a<br>
                                                          matter of you
                                                          not
                                                          communicating
                                                          your
                                                          transition
                                                          plan and
                                                          experience,<br>
                                                          not a matter
                                                          of us being
                                                          overly
                                                          pessimistic.</div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          Kevin Ludlow
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322261"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322261</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">I'm
                                                          sorry you've
                                                          had people
                                                          half-ass these
                                                          efforts in the
                                                          past. I<br>
                                                          definitely
                                                          cannot say I'm
                                                          surprised. I
                                                          focus on style
                                                          because to the<br>
                                                          external
                                                          world, style
                                                          IS the most
                                                          important
                                                          thing. This in
                                                          no way<br>
                                                          means I
                                                          neglect the
                                                          engine, but in
                                                          20 years of
                                                          delivering
                                                          projects,<br>
                                                          nearly 100% of
                                                          clients will
                                                          respond
                                                          positively to
                                                          a broken
                                                          system<br>
                                                          that looks
                                                          amazing over a
                                                          badass
                                                          functioning
                                                          system that
                                                          looks ugly.<br>
                                                          It's just
                                                          psychology.
                                                          Again, it
                                                          doesn't mean
                                                          it doesn't all
                                                          get<br>
                                                          done.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322267"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322267</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">I've
                                                          found
                                                          libertarians
                                                          have a
                                                          different
                                                          psychology
                                                          than much of
                                                          the<br>
                                                          world. The
                                                          tech saavy
                                                          folks will
                                                          feel talked
                                                          down to or
                                                          ignored if<br>
                                                          you only talk
                                                          about style,
                                                          ignoring tech
                                                          under the
                                                          hood. The<br>
                                                          ideological
                                                          folks will
                                                          feel defensive
                                                          if you malign
                                                          content. I
                                                          fall<br>
                                                          in both
                                                          categories, as
                                                          do others on
                                                          this thread.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Just something
                                                          to keep in
                                                          mind for the
                                                          future.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Stewart Flood
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322926"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322926</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">So
                                                          they're
                                                          creating a new
                                                          website
                                                          committee and
                                                          giving it
                                                          authority<br>
                                                          to screw
                                                          everything up
                                                          without having
                                                          to go back to
                                                          the LNC to get<br>
                                                          approval on
                                                          which one of
                                                          their pals
                                                          they give the
                                                          money to?</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Chuck Moulton
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322930"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322930</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">Yes,
                                                          they created a
                                                          new committee
                                                          with unlimited
                                                          power over the<br>
                                                          website. Then
                                                          they spent the
                                                          whole time
                                                          debating an
                                                          irrelevant<br>
                                                          $10,000.</blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Chuck Moulton
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/02/libertarian-national-committee-meeting-streaming-now/#comment-1322938"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://independentpoliticalrep<wbr>ort.com/2016/02/libertarian-na<wbr>tional-committee-meeting-strea<wbr>ming-now/#comment-1322938</a><br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                                          #cccccc;padding-left:1ex">I
                                                          am hugely
                                                          concerned
                                                          about giving
                                                          any one person
                                                          carte blanche
                                                          over<br>
                                                          the website.</blockquote>
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                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">512-773-3968</a></div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kevinludlow.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kevinludlow.com</a></div>
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                                                          Liberty,</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) -
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
                                                          Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                                          Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">512-773-3968</a></div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kevinludlow.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kevinludlow.com</a></div>
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                                                          Liberty,</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) -
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
                                                          Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                                          Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">512-773-3968</a></div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kevinludlow.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kevinludlow.com</a></div>
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                                                          <div><span
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                                                          Liberty,</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) -
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
                                                          Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                                          Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
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                                                          style="font-size:x-small"> </span></div>
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                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">512-773-3968</a></div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.kevinludlow.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.kevinludlow.com</a></div>
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                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>In
                                                          Liberty,</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) -
                                                          <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
                                                          Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                                          Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/"
                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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                                                          <div><span
style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
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                                                          style="font-size:xx-small">Region
                                                          1
                                                          Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee </span><span
style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) -
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                                                          Director, <a
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target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
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                                                          State
                                                          Coordinator, <a
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                                                          rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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                                          <div><font face="arial,
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                                              color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
                                                Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                                          <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                              Representative,
                                              Libertarian National
                                              Committee </font><span
                                              style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                              Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                              Wyoming, Washington) - <a
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                                                target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
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                                              State Coordinator, <a
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                                                href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org"
                                                target="_blank">Libertarian
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                          color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                      <div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
                          Libertarian National Committee </font><span
                          style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
                          Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
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                            target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
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                          State Coordinator, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org"
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