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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I agree with Caryn and Starchild. The mere request for secrecy in the context of the motion to censure, short of being held hostage by statists, raises a red flag and suggests just more political chicanery typical of our compulsory authoritarian majority rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Unless Assemblyman Moore’s documents are released without a secrecy requirement within the next day or so, I will vote YES on the brute-force motion to censure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The Invisible Hand of Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of Government!</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>~David Pratt Demarest<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cell: 402-981-6469<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Home: 402-493-0873<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Office: 402-222-7207<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Starchild<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 29, 2016 11:50 PM<br><b>To:</b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Letter of Censure<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>I share Caryn's sentiments. While as I said, I can imagine circumstances in which such secrecy might be reasonable and I would seek to uphold it, I did not say I considered such circumstances to be likely, in fact quite the opposite.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 29, 2016, at 9:39 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Our members are holding us accountable for this decision and the reasons for public votes should be public. I will not agree to such secrecy. Our politicians must be publicly accountable.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Oct 29, 2016 at 10:29 PM, Starchild <<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tim,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What were John's specific words (in writing if he put them in writing) or if orally, to the best of your recollection, regarding this request for secrecy and his reasons for it? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am requesting the document. As will probably come as no surprise to anyone reading this familiar with my positions, I am highly skeptical of any supposed need for secrecy here, but can hypothetically imagine a situation in which it might be reasonable and warranted (e.g. one of John's family members was kidnapped and threatened with death if John did not cast the votes in question and refrain from going public about his reasons for doing so, and the family member is still being held hostage).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Oct 29, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_335442"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_335441"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324318"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I received a statement from John Moore today. He considers it to be a confidential document to be shared only with the Libertarian National Committee. I will respect his requisition to not disseminate the contents outside of the LNC, and will forward the document to LNC members who request it. <br id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324371"><br id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324372">Tim Hagan<br id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324373"><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_335434"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324270"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324269"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yqt60720"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324268"><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> David Demarest <<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>><br><b id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324398">To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>; 'Caryn Ann Harlos' <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:david.demarest@firstdata.com" target="_blank">david.demarest@firstdata.com</a>; 'Audacious Caucus' <<a href="mailto:beaudaciouslp@gmail.com" target="_blank">beaudaciouslp@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 29, 2016 8:23 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Letter of Censure<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324323"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324327"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324326"><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324395"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Caryn, I agree that “We serve, not rule” is an appropriate guideline to discourage any incipient authoritarian leanings on the LNC.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324411"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324325"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I also like Starchild’s question: “</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Do [Audacious] caucus members have any practical advice for reforming our leadership culture or practices to avoid repeating this sort of mistake?</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>”</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324409"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324403"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I am comfortable with “Audacious” if it represents constructive criticism backed up by constructive suggestions rather than just “easy for you to say” close-minded Libertarian cheap-shot complaining that identifies problems but gets nothing done. I am confident that the Audacious folks will step up to the plate with constructive input, solutions and implementation action at some point.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324407"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324329"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Has Assemblyman Moore weighed in yet to explain his actions? I remain committed to a YES vote on the motion to censure but would like to hear from John Moore first if he is so inclined.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324452"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324450"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thoughts?</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_336054"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!</span></i></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_336059"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>The Invisible Hand of Self-Interest is Mightier Than the Sword of Government!</span></i></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_336061"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_336063"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_336067"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Cell: <a href="tel:402-981-6469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477618986133_324458"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Home: <a href="tel:402-493-0873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Office: <a href="tel:402-222-7207" target="_blank">402-222-7207</a></span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yqt25532"><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 28, 2016 7:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Audacious Caucus <<a href="mailto:beaudaciouslp@gmail.com" target="_blank">beaudaciouslp@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Letter of Censure</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I must disagree with the sentiments of my colleague Ken who seemed to find the whole idea silly. I must commend Arvin in his character to step up and say yes there is an important point here.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>It was I who suggested that members and caucuses express their disapproval. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I disagree with "some" of the sentiments in the letter but fully support the idea to do so.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>While not caring one bit for the old parties, i don't find the "slime" comment constructive. Most of us come from somewhere and are not second generation Libertarians. I for instance was put in a very public facing role with the LPCO (though under supervision) when I was three months out from being a Republican.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I wish to welcome persons who to become Libertarians and don't find that rhetoric helpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>And while simply calling the LNC names might be fun, it isn't particularly constructive. And it isn't constructive to miscast events. We didn't simply roll Alicia's multi-sided die. There was discussion and analysis. And while one is certainly free to disagree with the conclusions, it is wildly inaccurate to say there was no one iota (great word) of caution. That is just political rhetoric, fun as that might be. When persons switch in high profile positions there are gambles on both sides. And gambles are inherently risky but must be taken and when a loss incurred - recognized- as the current Motion to Censure does. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>In any event - I'm glad to see members exercising their rights and opinions. If they wish any constructive feedback - when a piece of writing is produced one must consider their goals. Does one really want serious consideration by the body? Just to shock? Just to be insulting? Each of those goals has its place. But they are often mutually exclusive and this one, as worded, seems to fall squarely in one quadrant, and that is, to me, disappointing as my desire is to see a real flow of information and feedback beyeeen the LNC and its members. While we are indeed in servant leadership - we are still volunteers and perhaps I am being too pie-in-the-sky but I believe a truly bottom up feedback loop also includes treating each other with dignity and respect. And while I believe that no matter how membership communicates, it is our duty to respond with civility- it is helpful for party business and complaints to be conducted with a certain level of personal decorum. I know some people think it is "audacious" to ignore such niceties. Well then that is certainly a different goal - and it isn't one of persuasion. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>However personally satisfying it is to be belligerent - be it by making one's letter unfortunately easier to dismiss by its tone since it doesn't seem to take itself seriously (I realize that making a Harambe to the Federal Court in my civil rights lawsuit isn't likely to persuade anyone) - or by actually dismissing it as some of my colleagues have done - none of that accomplishes anything.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>I am grateful members are watching us. In this instance - I am aware that an expression of "who cares?" was raised when it was pointed out to this group that the LNC has made corrective action in the pending Motion to Censure. That is very unfortunate and the lack of mention or encouragement of that pending action does suggest a lack of commitment to a fully fair review. And that takes away from its potential effect. Persons will often take constructive feedback if they feel it is balanced and fair. The lack of mention of the entire story in the missive, unfortunately, indicated otherwise.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>But colleagues - members are not happy and we do well to listen and consider. We serve, not rule.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br>On Friday, October 28, 2016, Starchild <<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you to the members of the Audacious Caucus for having the audacity to send us this resolution. :-) Florid language aside, I can't argue with the basic sentiment either – although I realize that as part of the minority who voted against the expenditure, I leave myself open to the "easy for you to say" charge.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Since we are still in the process of considering the practical extent of our own collective disappointment as a body with John Moore's votes and your caucus appears to be a step ahead of us, I would recommend that you go ahead and convey your disappointment to him directly rather than waiting on us, if you do not consider making this resolution public to have already achieved that effect. According to Nevada state government info I found online, he can be reached at <a href="mailto:John.Moore@asm.state.nv.us">John.Moore@asm.state.nv.us</a> or <a href="tel:%28702%29%20482-7676" target="_blank">(702) 482-7676</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Do caucus members have any practical advice for reforming our leadership culture or practices to avoid repeating this sort of mistake?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>On Oct 27, 2016, at 10:16 PM, Arvin Vohra wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Sadly, I agree. We should have done this better, and will, I hope, do better in the future. -Arvin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 1:34 PM, Audacious Caucus <<a href="mailto:beaudaciouslp@gmail.com">beaudaciouslp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>With 22 in favor, 1 opposed, and 2 abstaining, the following resolution was passed by the Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus:</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For trusting a Republican still dripping with old party slime,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For giving away $10,000 without even verifying his membership,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For thinking somebody who hadn't pledged the NAP would stand up for it under pressure,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For totally neglecting to exercise one iota of caution much less the abundance demanded here,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For being complete fiduciary nincompoops, and most importantly,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>For not unanimously voting against the expenditure in the first place,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>The Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus hereby censures the Libertarian National Committee,</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>and asks you to convey our deep disappointment to Assemblyman John Moore for failing miserably at his one job, for bringing shame upon himself, our party, and our governing body, and for being the man who pulled the trigger on an armed robbery that is now in progress along with an invoice for $10,000 due upon receipt.</span></i><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Additionally, "Taxation is Theft" and "Justice for Harambe" received 4 and 3 votes respectively.</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>--</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Libertarian Party Audacious Caucus</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>FB/TW: @LPAudacious</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>"If I can't dance, it's not my revolution." - Emma Goldman</span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Arvin Vohra<br><br><a href="http://www.votevohra.com/" target="_blank">www.VoteVohra.com</a><br><a href="mailto:VoteVohra@gmail.com">VoteVohra@gmail.com</a><br><a href="tel:%28301%29%20320-3634" target="_blank">(301) 320-3634</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><br><br>-- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yqt45076"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>In Liberty,</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Communications Director, </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Libertarian Party of Colorado</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Colorado State Coordinator, </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="m_-7037165787784060679yiv0242529540yqt16739"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. 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