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<p>Ken, the technical issues with the website definitely have not
been resolved. <br>
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<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
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1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/15/2016 2:09 PM, Ken Moellman
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<div>Caryn, et al -</div>
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<div>I believe the technical issues have been resolved with the
website at this point. Things look like they're moving pretty
quickly and cleanly.</div>
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<div>I know there are issues with the new website regarding
content, and we definitely need to resolve them. Certainly we
need to put meeting minutes back online, in compliance with the
bylaws. Assuming the technical issues are resoled, I'm sure that
will happen in the near future. </div>
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<div>But this brings up a larger issue: does everything from
before need to be there? How far back do we go? Should every
bit of content from the old site be available on the new site? </div>
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<div>Also, I still can't find the Policy Manual, so I don't know
if APRC need to approve additions and/or subtractions from the
website. If not the APRC, who decides when data expires?</div>
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<p>Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial Committee</p>
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<p>On 2016-11-15 13:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">No word yet on this missing data I suppose?
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<div>I was directed to a link I needed for research and..... a
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<div>This is not acceptable.</div>
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<div><strong style="background-color:
rgba(255,255,255,0);"><span
style="font-size: small;">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small;"><span
style="background-color:
rgba(255,255,255,0);">Region 1
Representative, Libertarian National
Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado,
Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington) - <a moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small;"><span
style="background-color:
rgba(255,255,255,0);">Communications
Director, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/">Libertarian
Party of Colorado</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: small;"><span
style="background-color:
rgba(255,255,255,0);">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/">Libertarian
Party Radical Caucus</a></span></span></div>
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style="background-color:
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<div><span style="font-size: x-small;">, Montana, Utah,
Wyoming, Washington) - <a moz-do-not-send="true">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: x-small;">Communications
Director, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/">Libertarian Party of
Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: x-small;">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/">Libertarian
Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Caryn
Ann Harlos <span><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div><span style="font-size: 12.8px;">LNC members,</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">I want to follow up
on this point. I was just looking at 404 errors
before. In fact, the problem is much, much, much,
much worse.</span><br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">The candidate
listings that do exist (are not 404 errors, were
properly redirected) are mostly just stubs that
include only their names.</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">These are our
statewide candidates in Pennsylvania:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/edward-clifford/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>edward-clifford/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/james-babb/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>james-babb/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/roy-minet/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>roy-minet/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">It might be hard to
tell they are our statewide candidates because their
listings include only the following information:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* LP logo</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Name</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Their listings DO NOT
INCLUDE any of the following information:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* State</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Office/district</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Picture</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Biography</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Website link</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Facebook</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Twitter</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">* Contact info</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">If you think this
problem is limited to states with less political
connections, you are wrong.</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Here are a few
listings from people running very active campaigns:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/aaron-starr/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>aaron-starr/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/arvin-vohra/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>arvin-vohra/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/lily-tang-williams/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>lily-tang-williams/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">(Disclosure note: I
donated to Aaron Starr's campaign.)</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Here are a few other
candidates you may recognize:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/norm-olsen/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>norm-olsen/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/roland-riemers/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>roland-riemers/</a><span
style="font-size: 12.8px;"> (404 error)</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/patrick-mcknight/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>patrick-mcknight/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Here is one of the
few candidate pages with actual information:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/mark-miller/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>mark-miller/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Note that even that
trails off at the end... "As an experienced PhD
petroleum engineer and former UT petroleum
engineering faculty member, he will undoubtedly be
the most qualified candidate on the November 201".
Also the Facebook and Twitter links are broken. And
it doesn't mention what office he is seeking. Nice
that the LNC donated thousands of dollars to his
campaign... too bad no one bothered to spend 5
minutes fixing the errors in his candidate listing.</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Of course, his old
page does not redirect:</span><br style="font-size:
12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/mark-a-miller/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>liberty-candidates-16/mark-a-m<wbr>iller/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">John Moore is a 404
page:</span><br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/john-moore/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>elected-official/john-moore/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/liberty-candidates-16/john-moore/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>liberty-candidates-16/john-moo<wbr>re/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/john-moore/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>john-moore/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">As is Laura Ebke:</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="https://www.lp.org/candidates/elected-official/laura-ebke/">https://www.lp.org/candidates/<wbr>elected-official/laura-ebke/</a><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">TODAY IS ELECTION
DAY. What a wasted opportunity!!!</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Maybe if we hadn't
shut down our working website 2 weeks before the
election and replaced it with a buggy new website
with 83% data loss and long load times (using a lot
of precious staff time at their busiest period), we
could have listed and promoted some of our
candidates.</span><br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Please, please,
PLEASE exercise some actual oversight as a board and
do something about the critical and embarrassing
error torpedoing one of our greatest assets (on the
eve of the election): our national </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true" style="font-size: 12.8px;"
href="http://lp.org/">lp.org</a><span
style="font-size: 12.8px;"> website.</span><br
style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">I've received
feedback asking me if I was being over the top or
facetious suggesting someone should be FIRED or
REMOVED FROM THE LNC over this. I was not. I am
completely serious. What was done to the website
goes beyond a harmless error. It goes beyond
reckless. It was NEGLIGENT. Someone should be held
accountable for all the damage that has been done to
the Libertarian Party -- an organization we all have
poured time and money into for decades hoping to see
it succeed.</span><br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<br style="font-size: 12.8px;">
<span style="font-size: 12.8px;">Thank you for your
consideration.</span><span class=""><span
class="m_5689285919951863991gmail-im"
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<br>
Chuck Moulton<br>
Life Member & Monthly Pledger, Libertarian
Party<br>
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</span></span><span style="font-size: 12.8px;">P.S.
I voted proudly for Gary Johnson and the other
Libertarians on the Pennsylvania ballot today.</span></div>
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2016 at 3:20 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span><<a
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<div>For the public's information. A ton of
ideological links are, in fact, broken.</div>
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From: <strong class="gmail_sendername">Chuck
Moulton</strong> <span><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chuck@moulton.org">chuck@moulton.org</a>></span><br>
Date: Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:21 PM<br>
Subject: Re: LP.org website transition -
missing pages (83% data loss)<br>
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Kevin Ludlow wrote:<br>
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style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex;
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padding-left: 1ex;">What would be
useful right now would be if you could
point out the<br>
broken links so that we can assign
permanent redirects to them.<br>
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[...]<br>
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So anyway, if you'd like to submit
broken links, we'd love to set up<br>
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Kevin,<br>
<br>
Glad to help!<br>
<br>
Obviously, it is much easier for you to
see what redirects need to be made, as
you have access to the old website, the
new website, and the 404 logs. However,
you seem to be having trouble with this,
so I'll provide you with the information
you need.<br>
<br>
It would be very difficult to compile a
list of all incoming links to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lp.org">lp.org</a>
without access to the server logs.
Therefore, I used Google's search
results, which is a reasonable proxy for
outside links. I searched for "site:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lp.org">lp.org</a>", then
I did followup searches for all
directories I found with "site:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lp.org">lp.org</a> inurl:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lp.org/blog">lp.org/blog</a>"
(for example) because Google does not
list all the results it has indexed
without narrow searches. This netted
2,531 unique URLs indexed by Google. I
wrote a program in Python to scrape that
information.<br>
<br>
Next, Stewart Flood wrote a Perl program
to check every URL on my list and find
out whether it threw a 404 error. (He
also checked for load times and other
information, which we will highlight in
a subsequent report.) Sorry this took
so long... Stewart was busy watching the
World Series. We re-ran the script
several times this week to see if staff
added any redirects... they only added
one page: /contribute. The program can
be re-run at any time to track what's
been added. Not all of the missing URLs
should necessarily be carried forward,
but a lot of historical information is
no longer present.<br>
<br>
Our results are included in the
attachments. (Note: In the summary
page, these are groupings by directory,
not the actual URLs.)<br>
<br>
Basically, 83% of the webpages indexed
by Google have not been carried over or
properly redirected.<br>
<br>
<br>
In liberty,<br>
<br>
Chuck Moulton<br>
Life Member & Monthly Pledger,
Libertarian Party<br>
2006-2008 IT Committee Chair<br>
<br>
Stewart Flood<br>
Life Member & Monthly Pledger,
Libertarian Party<br>
2008-2012 IT Committee Chair</div>
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<div><span style="color:
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helvetica, sans-serif;
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Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:
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Representative, Libertarian
National Committee </span><span
style="font-size: x-small;">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
Kansas, Montana, Utah,
Wyoming, Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:
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Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org">Libertarian
Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:
x-small;">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org">Libertarian
Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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Liberty,</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="color: #666666;
font-family: arial, helvetica,
sans-serif; font-size: large;"><strong>Caryn
Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:
xx-small;">Region 1
Representative, Libertarian
National Committee </span><span
style="font-size: x-small;">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington) - <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: x-small;">Communications
Director, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org">Libertarian
Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: x-small;">Colorado
State Coordinator, <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org">Libertarian
Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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large;"><strong>Caryn Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size: xx-small;">Region 1
Representative, Libertarian National
Committee </span><span style="font-size:
x-small;">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado,
Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
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Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
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State Coordinator, <a
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Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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