<div dir="ltr">Wes and LNC-<div><br></div><div>What I have is the zip file from the 2006 site which means they were already certified by the Party Secretary at that time. Their disappearance from the site was the catalyst for Moulton championing the Bylaw we now have regarding minutes but the LNC never followed through (apparently).</div><div><br></div><div>I will communicate with Alicia privately to see if she will direct their posting.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!<span></span></div><div><br></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br></span></font><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In Liberty,</font></b></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On Thursday, November 17, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<p>Caryn Ann,</p>
<p>For meeting minutes, I defer to the Secretary about what to post
and what is official. <br>
</p>
<p>So, for the 1989-2003 minutes you mention below, I suggest
discussing them with Secretary Mattson, and perhaps sending to her
what you have and asking her to send them to me to be posted. Any
time is fine.<br>
</p>
<p>Thanks for your assistance retrieving historical minutes. <br>
</p>
<pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
<div>On 11/17/2016 12:27 AM, Caryn Ann
Harlos wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Wes,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Members have been very helpful, and I have received quite a
history lesson on the background of this Bylaws amendment and
the fact that this same scenario with the website happened ten
years ago.... (not you or anyone here ... I know).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So, the background to that Bylaw was the deletion of much
of Party history, including Minutes from 1989-2003. Our
Bylaws require all minutes that we have to be posted. I will
be scouring Party members to reconstruct as much Party history
in the form of Minutes that I can.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But meantime, in the site prior to our old one, minutes
from 1989-2003 were listed. They disappeared, but I have an
archive file of them. Unfortunately they are in .html and not
.pdf but we have them.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>After we get 2003-present updated I will be requesting the
1989-2003 to be posted. They exist, and are needed.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I won't be, as you requested, checking the present progress
for a few weeks as I understand it is a work in progress.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Please let me know when you want me to send you the
1989-2003 archive.</div>
<div><br>
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<div><br>
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<div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
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Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Caryn
Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Can someone answer me if we have a zip of the
old site? I understand it is running in parallel right
now for staff, but I am really concerned that the data
will just go poof. <span>
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sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
<div><font size="1">Region 1
Representative, Libertarian National
Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:00
PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Member Chuck Moulton helpfully
wrote to me to say that the agendas get subsumed
and are recorded in the minutes so that would
satisfy the Bylaws requirement. I think someone
could be a pain and argue differently from the
Bylaws that a separate "proposed agenda" and not
the final agenda is what is required (that is
the strict language of the Bylaws) but I
certainly think that since the Agendas are
reported in the minutes, the complete spirit and
intent is fulfilled as long as the proposed
agendas are included with prompt posting of the
meeting notices. (I note that the July meeting
notice was not posted promptly and I don't think
the special session in September was ever
publicly noticed other than in this list).<span>
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helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
<div><font size="1">Region 1
Representative, Libertarian
National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
Kansas, Montana, Utah,
Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16,
2016 at 3:51 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">On another note I see
"Bylaws compliance" come up in that
discussion. The items that are a
subject of Bylaws compliance are old
minutes and agendas. And the Bylaws
say those are to be on the "Party
website" so there is no shunting those
off to another site. That is not
optional under the Bylaws.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>FWIW, our old site and our new
site are not in compliance when it
comes to Agendas. I highly suggest
that the Agendas get added - I don't
personally see the value, but the
Bylaws requires it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If we are not keeping LPedia, any
archive that is Party property is
not satisfied by being on LPedia.
It is great if it is there, but as
pointed out ,we would not control
it. </div>
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Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee (Alaska,
Arizona,
Colorado,
Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington) - <a style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of
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<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party Radical
Caucus</a></span></font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
Nov 16, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Caryn
Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank
you Wes for giving that top
priority.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>On the other issue, the
LP could decide to commit to
and keep LPedia. The only
reason handing off is on the
table is because we let it
fall into ruin.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Archiving is entirely
different from deleting -
and it is still available.
But I see no reason why the
archive cannot be on the
LP.org site in its own
archive section. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Archiving is about
designation, organization.
and digital location. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>There is the issue of our
SEO on old links.<span><span></span><br>
<br>
<br>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
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Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee (Alaska,
Arizona,
Colorado,
Hawaii,
Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of
Colorado</a></span></font></div>
<div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party Radical
Caucus</a></span></font></div>
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<div>On
Wednesday, November 16,
2016, Ken Moellman <<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p> </p>
<div>Absolutely. I
think we're
actually agreeing.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Please
understand that,
professionally,
I'm in Enterprise
Storage and
Backup. My entire
job revolves
around data;
keeping it
available and
secure. I'm not
one to "delete"
anything, but I'm
suggesting that
now is the time to
take a look at
archiving
some stuff. By
default, we should
retain all data.
However, it
doesn't all need
to be on LP.org. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I do think that
leveraging LPedia
is one way to
handle it.
However, I think
LPedia is being
handed off to LSLA
and I don't think
LP National can
control LSLA and
ensure Bylaws
compliance. (As a
side note, I'm an
LPedia contributor
and I think it's a
good project).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<p> </p>
<p>On 2016-11-16
05:30, Starchild
wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Sure
Ken, let's take
a look. If you
or someone else
suggest that a
particular
document or
category of
materials be
transferred to
another site,
and everyone
looks at it and
agrees it
doesn't need to
be maintained on
<a href="http://LP.org" target="_blank">LP.org</a>, fine. But if you try to
use the
implementation
of a site revamp
as an
opportunity to
by fait accompli
bury or trash
material that
other people
don't want
buried or
trashed, then
the next time
you want to
update the
website (or
anything else),
some people are
likely to
remember what
you tried to do
this time and
not trust you.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Love &
Liberty,</div>
<div>
(((
starchild )))</div>
<div>At-Large
Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee</div>
<div>
(415) 625-FREE</div>
<div>
@StarchildSF</div>
<div> </div>
<br>
<div>
<div>On Nov 15,
2016, at 9:01
PM, Ken
Moellman
wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<div> As a new
member of the
LNC, I wasn't
involved in
any of the
original
decisions. I
would have
said the same
thing then,
too. This is
the right time
to examine
content. Why
move over what
is
unnecessary?
Let's take a
look now.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>There was
also talk at
one time -
several years
ago - of
splitting the
website into
two sites; one
all about
marketing the
LP, and the
other for the
back-office
and more
technical
stuff (like
bylaws and
meeting
minutes and
whatnot).
Both publicly
available, but
one being very
simple and the
other being
more of the
document
repository and
archive.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I'd
rather not
talk about
re-engineering
a brand new
website with
the new one
being wrapped
up. But it's
all stuff to
think about.
I do
personally
think a sleek
"first
impression"
site might be
a worthwhile
item to
examine.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<p>On
2016-11-15
23:04, Caryn
Ann Harlos
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>And - as I
said. The
prediction of
members is
coming true.
It was said
then that this
move would be
an excuse to
delete
content. I
get called
paranoid....
and now we see
an apologetic
for just that.
</p>
<div> </div>
<div>There is
sentiment to
delete content
and there was
"appears" to
be purposeful
ideological
rebranding of
the masthead
that should be
an LNC level
decision.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Just like
members
expressed
fears about
and were
assured would
not happen.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And now
are said to be
paranoid. Or
characterized
as hyper
critics.<span></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
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<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee (Alaska,
Arizona,
Colorado,
Hawaii,
Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of
Colorado</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party Radical
Caucus</a></span></span></div>
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<div><span></span><br>
<br>
On Tuesday,
November 15,
2016, Ken
Moellman <<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<div> </div>
<div>It's not
about the cost
of storage,
really, but
the amount of
clutter.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>For
instance,
somewhere I
have every
email I have
ever sent or
received
(except
94-97). Why?
It's not like
I look at
them. And it
makes
searching for
something that
much more
difficult. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>But I
never quite
get around to
purging out
data I don't
need anymore
because I
never have a
reason to even
get into that
old mail. If I
ever had a
reason, I
might start
cleaning it
up. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I even
went and
re-purchased a
software
license for
$25 because it
wasn't worth
my time to go
back through
all of that
data to try to
save $25. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>The point
is to avoid
being a
hoarder. While
keeping
20-year-old
newspapers in
stacks around
the house has
no monetary
cost, there
are other
hidden and not
so hidden
costs. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>While
we're going
through the
house anyway,
let's toss
some garbage.
It wasn't
garbage 20
years ago,
certainly, but
now.... well. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<p>On
2016-11-15
18:32,
Starchild
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">Ken,
<div> </div>
<div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Were
we somehow
running into
space
limitations on
how much is
stored at <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>?
I'm not aware
of any such
issue. Assuming
there is no
urgency on
getting older
material off
the site, I
think any
content
proposed to be
removed from <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>
should first
be submitted
to the LNC, so
that any of us
can flag for
discussion any
material that
we <em>don't</em>
believe should
be transferred
(what you said
about the
decision being
"conscientiously made"). <a href="http://LPedia.org/" target="_blank">LPedia.org</a> would be a natural place to archive
older, less
useful
material, but
that site
needs to be
made fully
functional and
accessible.
Unless there
is some kind
of urgent
technical
need, I don't
think anything
should be
removed from <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>,
or not ported
over to the
revamped site,
until it has
an immediate
new home where
members can
readily access
it.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Love
& Liberty,</div>
<div>
(((
starchild )))</div>
<div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
<div>
(415)
625-FREE</div>
<div>
@StarchildSF</div>
<div>
</div>
<div><br>
<div>
<div>On Nov
15, 2016, at
2:53 PM, Ken
Moellman
wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<div> There is
a question of
whether or not
we should let
some data
expire. At
some point,
the value of
the
information
decreases to a
point that it
is practically
useless. At
that point, it
should be
archived, but
not kept on
the main
site. But
what goes
away is a
decision that
should be
conscientiously
made by
someone.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Is the
old website
still hiding
somewhere
where the LNC
members can
access it? It
might be good
to dump every
node from the
old Drupal
site and have
some
decision-makers determine
the value
of each page.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Wes - My
3PM went long
and I have
another
engagement
until 8PM. If
you're around
after 8:30PM
Eastern feel
free to give
me a call.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<p>On
2016-11-15
17:06, Caryn
Ann Harlos
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>Sam - while
clever - there
is absolutely
zero reason we
should have
data loss
simply because
we have a new
site. That
must be a
conscious LNC
decision. I
do not intend
on letting
this drop.<span></span></p>
<div> </div>
<div>Further -
and as you
know because I
was one of the
loudest
complaining
members -
members were
assured that
there would be
no content
culling.
Members then
expressed
skepticism at
that promise
and felt they
were being a
fed a load of
hooey.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Let's not
show that they
in fact were.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>The look
of the site is
nice. The
ideological
rebranding and
the loss of
content is
precisely what
members were
promised would
not happen.<span></span> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Unless
the LNC makes
some decision
on this to
settle it- and
then members
can act
accordingly -
I have zero
intention of
letting this
drop.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is
unacceptable
and against
all assurances
given to our
members.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I will
note well that
a lot of that
content was
generated and
put up by paid
staff. Paid
by members.
And now gone.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Grumpy
cat says nope.
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>To answer
Ken's
question.
Unless we are
going to
concede the
LNC and
website
committee lied
to members,
then no one
can make a
decision to
omit content.
And in any
event that is
not APRC.
APRC could
potentially
require that
this Bylaws
violation be
done before
anything
else. But the
rest is
outside their
scope.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>This is
an LNC level
decision.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Just like
the purposeful
masthead
rebranding.<span></span></div>
<div> </div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
</span></span>
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<div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
<div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee (Alaska,
Arizona,
Colorado,
Hawaii,
Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of
Colorado</a></span></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party Radical
Caucus</a></span></span></div>
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<div> </div>
</div>
<div><br>
On Tuesday,
November 15,
2016, Sam
Goldstein <<a>goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">Ken,
<div> </div>
<div>Here is
the most
recent version
of the Policy
Manual that I
have on my</div>
<div>computer.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>And yes,
every single
document
generated by a
member of the
party over</div>
<div>the past
40 years must
be on the web
site for total
transparency.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Sam</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>
<div>
<div dir="ltr">Sam
Goldstein
<div>Libertarian
National
Committee</div>
<div>Member at
Large</div>
<div>8925 N
Meridian St,
Ste 101</div>
<div>Indianapolis
IN 46260</div>
<div><a href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a>
Phone</div>
<div><a href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a>
Fax</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On
Tue, Nov 15,
2016 at 2:49
PM, Ken
Moellman <span><<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<div> </div>
<div>Wes, as
soon as I get
done with this
3PM call I'll
reach out to
you. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div>
<p>On
2016-11-15
14:18, Wes
Benedict
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>Ken, the
technical
issues with
the website
definitely
have not been
resolved.</p>
<pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
<div>On
11/15/2016
2:09 PM, Ken
Moellman
wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div> </div>
<div>Caryn, et
al -</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I believe
the technical
issues have
been resolved
with the
website at
this point.
Things look
like they're
moving pretty
quickly and
cleanly.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I know
there are
issues with
the new
website
regarding
content, and
we definitely
need to
resolve them.
Certainly we
need to put
meeting
minutes back
online, in
compliance
with the
bylaws.
Assuming the
technical
issues are
resoled, I'm
sure that will
happen in the
near future. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>But this
brings up a
larger issue:
does
everything
from before
need to be
there? How
far back do we
go? Should
every bit of
content from
the old site
be available
on the new
site? </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Also, I
still can't
find the
Policy Manual,
so I don't
know if APRC
need to
approve
additions
and/or
subtractions
from the
website. If
not the APRC,
who decides
when data
expires?</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>---<br>
<p>Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
LNC Region 3
Alternate
Representative<br>
LPKY Judicial
Committee</p>
</div>
<div> </div>
<p>On
2016-11-15
13:56, Caryn
Ann Harlos
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div dir="ltr">No
word yet on
this missing
data I
suppose?
<div> </div>
<div>I was
directed to a
link I needed
for research
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