<div dir="ltr">Wes and LNC-<div><br></div><div>What I have is the zip file from the 2006 site which means they were already certified by the Party Secretary at that time.  Their disappearance from the site was the catalyst for Moulton championing the Bylaw we now have regarding minutes but the LNC never followed through (apparently).</div><div><br></div><div>I will communicate with Alicia privately to see if she will direct their posting.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!<span></span></div><div><br></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br></span></font><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In Liberty,</font></b></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br>On Thursday, November 17, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Caryn Ann,</p>
    <p>For meeting minutes, I defer to the Secretary about what to post
      and what is official. <br>
    </p>
    <p>So, for the 1989-2003 minutes you mention below, I suggest
      discussing them with Secretary Mattson, and perhaps sending to her
      what you have and asking her to send them to me to be posted. Any
      time is fine.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Thanks for your assistance retrieving historical minutes. <br>
    </p>
    <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div>On 11/17/2016 12:27 AM, Caryn Ann
      Harlos wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Wes,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Members have been very helpful, and I have received quite a
          history lesson on the background of this Bylaws amendment and
          the fact that this same scenario with the website happened ten
          years ago....  (not you or anyone here ... I know).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>So, the background to that Bylaw was the deletion of much
          of Party history, including Minutes from 1989-2003.  Our
          Bylaws require all minutes that we have to be posted.  I will
          be scouring Party members to reconstruct as much Party history
          in the form of Minutes that I can.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>But meantime, in the site prior to our old one, minutes
          from 1989-2003 were listed.  They disappeared, but I have an
          archive file of them.  Unfortunately they are in .html and not
          .pdf but we have them.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>After we get 2003-present updated I will be requesting the
          1989-2003 to be posted.  They exist, and are needed.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I won't be, as you requested, checking the present progress
          for a few weeks as I understand it is a work in progress.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Please let me know when you want me to send you the
          1989-2003 archive.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
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                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div>
                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                      <div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
                          Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
                          Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                          Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                            Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                          Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                            Colorado</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                          State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical
                            Caucus</a></span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:37 PM, Caryn
          Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div dir="ltr">Can someone answer me if we have a zip of the
              old site?  I understand it is running in parallel right
              now for staff, but I am really concerned that the data
              will just go poof.  <span>
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                              <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                  sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>In
                                    Liberty,</b></font></div>
                              <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                  sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
                                    Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                              <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                  Representative, Libertarian National
                                  Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                  Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                  Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                                    Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                              <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                  Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                                    Colorado</a></span></div>
                              <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                  State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
                                    Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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            <div>
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                <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 5:00
                    PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div dir="ltr">Member Chuck Moulton helpfully
                        wrote to me to say that the agendas get subsumed
                        and are recorded in the minutes so that would
                        satisfy the Bylaws requirement.  I think someone
                        could be a pain and argue differently from the
                        Bylaws that a separate "proposed agenda" and not
                        the final agenda is what is required (that is
                        the strict language of the Bylaws) but I
                        certainly think that since the Agendas are
                        reported in the minutes, the complete spirit and
                        intent is fulfilled as long as the proposed
                        agendas are included with prompt posting of the
                        meeting notices.  (I note that the July meeting
                        notice was not posted promptly and I don't think
                        the special session in September was ever
                        publicly noticed other than in this list).<span>
                          <div><br>
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                                        <div><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>In
                                              Liberty,</b></font></div>
                                        <div><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
                                              Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                                        <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                            Representative, Libertarian
                                            National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                            Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                            Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                            Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                                              Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                        <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                            Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                              Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                        <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                            State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                              Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
                                      </div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 16,
                              2016 at 3:51 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
                              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                <div dir="ltr">On another note I see
                                  "Bylaws compliance" come up in that
                                  discussion.  The items that are a
                                  subject of Bylaws compliance are old
                                  minutes and agendas.  And the Bylaws
                                  say those are to be on the "Party
                                  website" so there is no shunting those
                                  off to another site.  That is not
                                  optional under the Bylaws.
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>FWIW, our old site and our new
                                    site are not in compliance when it
                                    comes to Agendas.  I highly suggest
                                    that the Agendas get added - I don't
                                    personally see the value, but the
                                    Bylaws requires it.</div>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>If we are not keeping LPedia, any
                                    archive that is Party property is
                                    not satisfied by being on LPedia. 
                                    It is great if it is there, but as
                                    pointed out ,we would not control
                                    it.  </div>
                                  <span>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div><font style="color:rgb(80,0,80)" size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
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                                                  <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In
                                                        Liberty,</font></b></div>
                                                  <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn
                                                        Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
                                                  <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                        Libertarian
                                                        National
                                                        Committee (Alaska,
                                                        Arizona,
                                                        Colorado,
                                                        Hawaii, Kansas,
                                                        Montana, Utah,
                                                        Wyoming,
                                                        Washington) - <a style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Caryn.Ann.
                                                          Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
                                                  <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party of
                                                          Colorado</a></span></font></div>
                                                  <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                        Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party Radical
                                                          Caucus</a></span></font></div>
                                                </div>
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                                  <div>
                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed,
                                        Nov 16, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Caryn
                                        Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                        wrote:<br>
                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thank
                                          you Wes for giving that top
                                          priority.
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>On the other issue, the
                                            LP could decide to commit to
                                            and keep LPedia.  The only
                                            reason handing off is on the
                                            table is because we let it
                                            fall into ruin.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Archiving is entirely
                                            different from deleting -
                                            and it is still available. 
                                            But I see no reason why the
                                            archive cannot be on the
                                            LP.org site in its own
                                            archive section. </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Archiving is about
                                            designation, organization.
                                             and digital location.  </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>There is the issue of our
                                            SEO on old links.<span><span></span><br>
                                              <br>
                                              <br>
                                              <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
                                                  </span></font></div>
                                              <font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
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                                                          <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In
                                                          Liberty,</font></b></div>
                                                          <div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos</font></b></div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party of
                                                          Colorado</a></span></font></div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party Radical
                                                          Caucus</a></span></font></div>
                                                          <div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br>
                                                          </span></font></div>
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                                            </span>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>On
                                                Wednesday, November 16,
                                                2016, Ken Moellman <<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>>
                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                  <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                    <div>Absolutely. I
                                                      think we're
                                                      actually agreeing.
                                                       </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>Please
                                                      understand that,
                                                      professionally,
                                                      I'm in Enterprise
                                                      Storage and
                                                      Backup.  My entire
                                                      job revolves
                                                      around data;
                                                      keeping it
                                                      available and
                                                      secure. I'm not
                                                      one to "delete"
                                                      anything, but I'm
                                                      suggesting that
                                                      now is the time to
                                                      take a look at
                                                      archiving
                                                      some stuff.  By
                                                      default, we should
                                                      retain all data.
                                                      However, it
                                                      doesn't all need
                                                      to be on LP.org.  </div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>I do think that
                                                      leveraging LPedia
                                                      is one way to
                                                      handle it. 
                                                      However, I think
                                                      LPedia is being
                                                      handed off to LSLA
                                                      and I don't think
                                                      LP National can
                                                      control LSLA and
                                                      ensure Bylaws
                                                      compliance.  (As a
                                                      side note, I'm an
                                                      LPedia contributor
                                                      and I think it's a
                                                      good project).</div>
                                                    <div> </div>
                                                    <div>---<br>
                                                      <p>Ken C.
                                                        Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                        LNC Region 3
                                                        Alternate
                                                        Representative<br>
                                                        LPKY Judicial
                                                        Committee</p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p> </p>
                                                    <p>On 2016-11-16
                                                      05:30, Starchild
                                                      wrote:</p>
                                                    <blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                      <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Sure
                                                        Ken, let's take
                                                        a look. If you
                                                        or someone else
                                                        suggest that a
                                                        particular
                                                        document or
                                                        category of
                                                        materials be
                                                        transferred to
                                                        another site,
                                                        and everyone
                                                        looks at it and
                                                        agrees it
                                                        doesn't need to
                                                        be maintained on
                                                        <a href="http://LP.org" target="_blank">LP.org</a>, fine. But if you try to
                                                        use the
                                                        implementation
                                                        of a site revamp
                                                        as an
                                                        opportunity to
                                                        by fait accompli
                                                        bury or trash
                                                        material that
                                                        other people
                                                        don't want
                                                        buried or
                                                        trashed, then
                                                        the next time
                                                        you want to
                                                        update the
                                                        website (or
                                                        anything else),
                                                        some people are
                                                        likely to
                                                        remember what
                                                        you tried to do
                                                        this time and
                                                        not trust you.</div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <div>Love &
                                                        Liberty,</div>
                                                      <div>             
                                                                       
                                                             (((
                                                        starchild )))</div>
                                                      <div>At-Large
                                                        Representative,
                                                        Libertarian
                                                        National
                                                        Committee</div>
                                                      <div>             
                                                                       
                                                          (415) 625-FREE</div>
                                                      <div>             
                                                                       
                                                            @StarchildSF</div>
                                                      <div> </div>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>On Nov 15,
                                                          2016, at 9:01
                                                          PM, Ken
                                                          Moellman
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                        <blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <div> As a new
                                                          member of the
                                                          LNC, I wasn't
                                                          involved in
                                                          any of the
                                                          original
                                                          decisions.  I
                                                          would have
                                                          said the same
                                                          thing then,
                                                          too. This is
                                                          the right time
                                                          to examine
                                                          content. Why
                                                          move over what
                                                          is
                                                          unnecessary?
                                                          Let's take a
                                                          look now.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>There was
                                                          also talk at
                                                          one time -
                                                          several years
                                                          ago - of
                                                          splitting the
                                                          website into
                                                          two sites; one
                                                          all about
                                                          marketing the
                                                          LP, and the
                                                          other for the
                                                          back-office
                                                          and more
                                                          technical
                                                          stuff (like
                                                          bylaws and
                                                          meeting
                                                          minutes and
                                                          whatnot). 
                                                          Both publicly
                                                          available, but
                                                          one being very
                                                          simple and the
                                                          other being
                                                          more of the
                                                          document
                                                          repository and
                                                          archive.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I'd
                                                          rather not
                                                          talk about
                                                          re-engineering
                                                          a brand new
                                                          website with
                                                          the new one
                                                          being wrapped
                                                          up. But it's
                                                          all stuff to
                                                          think about. 
                                                          I do
                                                          personally
                                                          think a sleek
                                                          "first
                                                          impression"
                                                          site might be
                                                          a worthwhile
                                                          item to
                                                          examine.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-11-15
                                                          23:04, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <p>And - as I
                                                          said.  The
                                                          prediction of
                                                          members is
                                                          coming true. 
                                                          It was said
                                                          then that this
                                                          move would be
                                                          an excuse to
                                                          delete
                                                          content.  I
                                                          get called
                                                          paranoid....
                                                          and now we see
                                                          an apologetic
                                                          for just that.
                                                           </p>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>There is
                                                          sentiment to
                                                          delete content
                                                          and there was
                                                          "appears" to
                                                          be purposeful
                                                          ideological
                                                          rebranding of
                                                          the masthead
                                                          that should be
                                                          an LNC level
                                                          decision.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Just like
                                                          members
                                                          expressed
                                                          fears about
                                                          and were
                                                          assured would
                                                          not happen.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>And now
                                                          are said to be
                                                          paranoid.  Or
                                                          characterized
                                                          as hyper
                                                          critics.<span></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
                                                          </span></span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party of
                                                          Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party Radical
                                                          Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span></span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          November 15,
                                                          2016, Ken
                                                          Moellman <<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>It's not
                                                          about the cost
                                                          of storage,
                                                          really, but
                                                          the amount of
                                                          clutter.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>For
                                                          instance,
                                                          somewhere I
                                                          have every
                                                          email I have
                                                          ever sent or
                                                          received
                                                          (except
                                                          94-97). Why?
                                                          It's not like
                                                          I look at
                                                          them. And it
                                                          makes
                                                          searching for
                                                          something that
                                                          much more
                                                          difficult. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>But I
                                                          never quite
                                                          get around to
                                                          purging out
                                                          data I don't
                                                          need anymore
                                                          because I
                                                          never have a
                                                          reason to even
                                                          get into that
                                                          old mail. If I
                                                          ever had a
                                                          reason, I
                                                          might start
                                                          cleaning it
                                                          up. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I even
                                                          went and
                                                          re-purchased a
                                                          software
                                                          license for
                                                          $25 because it
                                                          wasn't worth
                                                          my time to go
                                                          back through
                                                          all of that
                                                          data to try to
                                                          save $25. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>The point
                                                          is to avoid
                                                          being a
                                                          hoarder. While
                                                          keeping
                                                          20-year-old
                                                          newspapers in
                                                          stacks around
                                                          the house has
                                                          no monetary
                                                          cost, there
                                                          are other
                                                          hidden and not
                                                          so hidden
                                                          costs. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>While
                                                          we're going
                                                          through the
                                                          house anyway,
                                                          let's toss
                                                          some garbage.
                                                          It wasn't
                                                          garbage 20
                                                          years ago,
                                                          certainly, but
                                                          now.... well. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-11-15
                                                          18:32,
                                                          Starchild
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">Ken,
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Were
                                                          we somehow
                                                          running into
                                                          space
                                                          limitations on
                                                          how much is
                                                          stored at <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>?
                                                          I'm not aware
                                                          of any such
                                                          issue. Assuming
                                                          there is no
                                                          urgency on
                                                          getting older
                                                          material off
                                                          the site, I
                                                          think any
                                                          content
                                                          proposed to be
                                                          removed from <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>
                                                          should first
                                                          be submitted
                                                          to the LNC, so
                                                          that any of us
                                                          can flag for
                                                          discussion any
                                                          material that
                                                          we <em>don't</em>
                                                          believe should
                                                          be transferred
                                                          (what you said
                                                          about the
                                                          decision being
"conscientiously made"). <a href="http://LPedia.org/" target="_blank">LPedia.org</a> would be a natural place to archive
                                                          older, less
                                                          useful
                                                          material, but
                                                          that site
                                                          needs to be
                                                          made fully
                                                          functional and
                                                          accessible.
                                                          Unless there
                                                          is some kind
                                                          of urgent
                                                          technical
                                                          need, I don't
                                                          think anything
                                                          should be
                                                          removed from <a href="http://LP.org/" target="_blank">LP.org</a>,
                                                          or not ported
                                                          over to the
                                                          revamped site,
                                                          until it has
                                                          an immediate
                                                          new home where
                                                          members can
                                                          readily access
                                                          it.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Love
                                                          & Liberty,</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                     (((
                                                          starchild )))</div>
                                                          <div>At-Large
Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                  (415)
                                                          625-FREE</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                   
                                                          @StarchildSF</div>
                                                          <div>         
                                                                       
                                                                 </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On Nov
                                                          15, 2016, at
                                                          2:53 PM, Ken
                                                          Moellman
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <div> There is
                                                          a question of
                                                          whether or not
                                                          we should let
                                                          some data
                                                          expire.  At
                                                          some point,
                                                          the value of
                                                          the
                                                          information
                                                          decreases to a
                                                          point that it
                                                          is practically
                                                          useless.  At
                                                          that point, it
                                                          should be
                                                          archived, but
                                                          not kept on
                                                          the main
                                                          site.  But
                                                          what goes
                                                          away is a
                                                          decision that
                                                          should be
                                                          conscientiously
                                                          made by
                                                          someone.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Is the
                                                          old website
                                                          still hiding
                                                          somewhere
                                                          where the LNC
                                                          members can
                                                          access it?  It
                                                          might be good
                                                          to dump every
                                                          node from the
                                                          old Drupal
                                                          site and have
                                                          some
                                                          decision-makers determine
                                                          the value
                                                          of each page.
                                                           </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Wes - My
                                                          3PM went long
                                                          and I have
                                                          another
                                                          engagement
                                                          until 8PM.  If
                                                          you're around
                                                          after 8:30PM
                                                          Eastern feel
                                                          free to give
                                                          me a call.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-11-15
                                                          17:06, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <p>Sam - while
                                                          clever - there
                                                          is absolutely
                                                          zero reason we
                                                          should have
                                                          data loss
                                                          simply because
                                                          we have a new
                                                          site.  That
                                                          must be a
                                                          conscious LNC
                                                          decision.  I
                                                          do not intend
                                                          on letting
                                                          this drop.<span></span></p>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Further -
                                                          and as you
                                                          know because I
                                                          was one of the
                                                          loudest
                                                          complaining
                                                          members -
                                                          members were
                                                          assured that
                                                          there would be
                                                          no content
                                                          culling. 
                                                          Members then
                                                          expressed
                                                          skepticism at
                                                          that promise
                                                          and felt they
                                                          were being a
                                                          fed a load of
                                                          hooey.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Let's not
                                                          show that they
                                                          in fact were.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>The look
                                                          of the site is
                                                          nice.  The
                                                          ideological
                                                          rebranding and
                                                          the loss of
                                                          content is
                                                          precisely what
                                                          members were
                                                          promised would
                                                          not happen.<span></span>  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Unless
                                                          the LNC makes
                                                          some decision
                                                          on this to
                                                          settle it- and
                                                          then members
                                                          can act
                                                          accordingly -
                                                          I have zero
                                                          intention of
                                                          letting this
                                                          drop.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>This is
                                                          unacceptable
                                                          and against
                                                          all assurances
                                                          given to our
                                                          members.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I will
                                                          note well that
                                                          a lot of that
                                                          content was
                                                          generated and
                                                          put up by paid
                                                          staff.  Paid
                                                          by members. 
                                                          And now gone.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Grumpy
                                                          cat says nope.
                                                           </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>To answer
                                                          Ken's
                                                          question. 
                                                          Unless we are
                                                          going to
                                                          concede the
                                                          LNC and
                                                          website
                                                          committee lied
                                                          to members,
                                                          then no one
                                                          can make a
                                                          decision to
                                                          omit content. 
                                                          And in any
                                                          event that is
                                                          not APRC. 
                                                          APRC could
                                                          potentially
                                                          require that
                                                          this Bylaws
                                                          violation be
                                                          done before
                                                          anything
                                                          else.  But the
                                                          rest is
                                                          outside their
                                                          scope.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>This is
                                                          an LNC level
                                                          decision.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Just like
                                                          the purposeful
                                                          masthead
                                                          rebranding.<span></span></div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br>
                                                          </span></span>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">In Liberty,</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><strong style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><span style="font-size:small">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></strong></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative,
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee (Alaska,
                                                          Arizona,
                                                          Colorado,
                                                          Hawaii,
                                                          Kansas,
                                                          Montana, Utah,
                                                          Wyoming,
                                                          Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party of
                                                          Colorado</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State
                                                          Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                          Party Radical
                                                          Caucus</a></span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          <div><span style="font-size:small"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"> </span></span></div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          On Tuesday,
                                                          November 15,
                                                          2016, Sam
                                                          Goldstein <<a>goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Ken,
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Here is
                                                          the most
                                                          recent version
                                                          of the Policy
                                                          Manual that I
                                                          have on my</div>
                                                          <div>computer.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>And yes,
                                                          every single
                                                          document
                                                          generated by a
                                                          member of the
                                                          party over</div>
                                                          <div>the past
                                                          40 years must
                                                          be on the web
                                                          site for total
                                                          transparency.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Sam</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Sam
                                                          Goldstein
                                                          <div>Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee</div>
                                                          <div>Member at
                                                          Large</div>
                                                          <div>8925 N
                                                          Meridian St,
                                                          Ste 101</div>
                                                          <div>Indianapolis
                                                          IN 46260</div>
                                                          <div><a href="tel:317-850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a>
                                                          Phone</div>
                                                          <div><a href="tel:317-582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a>
                                                          Fax</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Tue, Nov 15,
                                                          2016 at 2:49
                                                          PM, Ken
                                                          Moellman <span><<a>ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Wes, as
                                                          soon as I get
                                                          done with this
                                                          3PM call I'll
                                                          reach out to
                                                          you.  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-11-15
                                                          14:18, Wes
                                                          Benedict
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <p>Ken, the
                                                          technical
                                                          issues with
                                                          the website
                                                          definitely
                                                          have not been
                                                          resolved.</p>
                                                          <pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008%20ext.%20232" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          11/15/2016
                                                          2:09 PM, Ken
                                                          Moellman
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Caryn, et
                                                          al -</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I believe
                                                          the technical
                                                          issues have
                                                          been resolved
                                                          with the
                                                          website at
                                                          this point.
                                                          Things look
                                                          like they're
                                                          moving pretty
                                                          quickly and
                                                          cleanly.</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I know
                                                          there are
                                                          issues with
                                                          the new
                                                          website
                                                          regarding
                                                          content, and
                                                          we definitely
                                                          need to
                                                          resolve them. 
                                                          Certainly we
                                                          need to put
                                                          meeting
                                                          minutes back
                                                          online, in
                                                          compliance
                                                          with the
                                                          bylaws.
                                                          Assuming the
                                                          technical
                                                          issues are
                                                          resoled, I'm
                                                          sure that will
                                                          happen in the
                                                          near future. </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>But this
                                                          brings up a
                                                          larger issue:
                                                          does
                                                          everything
                                                          from before
                                                          need to be
                                                          there?  How
                                                          far back do we
                                                          go? Should
                                                          every bit of
                                                          content from
                                                          the old site
                                                          be available
                                                          on the new
                                                          site?  </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>Also, I
                                                          still can't
                                                          find the
                                                          Policy Manual,
                                                          so I don't
                                                          know if APRC
                                                          need to
                                                          approve
                                                          additions
                                                          and/or
                                                          subtractions
                                                          from the
                                                          website.  If
                                                          not the APRC,
                                                          who decides
                                                          when data
                                                          expires?</div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>---<br>
                                                          <p>Ken C.
                                                          Moellman, Jr.<br>
                                                          LNC Region 3
                                                          Alternate
                                                          Representative<br>
                                                          LPKY Judicial
                                                          Committee</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <p>On
                                                          2016-11-15
                                                          13:56, Caryn
                                                          Ann Harlos
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                          <blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">No
                                                          word yet on
                                                          this missing
                                                          data I
                                                          suppose?
                                                          <div> </div>
                                                          <div>I was
                                                          directed to a
                                                          link I needed
                                                          for research
                                       </div></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>
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