Details? I know tangentially what you mean but not fully.<span></span><br><br>On Tuesday, November 29, 2016, Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Drawing money from the current bequest into any account other than the<br>
operating account may have a negative impact on pending Federal<br>
litigation.<br>
<br>
-Nick<br>
<br>
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
<<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> My suggestion though would require paying the 105K (approx) during one year<br>
> (this one most likely) and then having the re-set for what we can draw from<br>
> the bequest next year.<br>
><br>
> Basically I am suggesting taking full advantage of what we can get from the<br>
> bequest to put towards this.<br>
><br>
> This would seem to satisfy a lot of issues.<br>
><br>
> Again, not saying I support but it is an alternative I thought about. It<br>
> seems (?) everyone is in agreement on the make-up we need to do from the<br>
> 2015 shortfall. And it seems like there might (?) be agreement on the 105K<br>
> from the bequest.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> In Liberty,<br>
> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
> Harlos@LP.org<br>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Joshua Katz <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'planning4liberty@gmail.com')">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br>
> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I have been a dissenting voice as well. I am inclined to be positive<br>
>> towards this suggestion, but I don't want to commit myself without more time<br>
>> to think. However, I stand by my desire to take it up after the budget, at<br>
>> which point it is possible I'd favor a larger amount than this.<br>
>><br>
>> Joshua A. Katz<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Ken, I have been doing some thinking, and while I am not saying I support<br>
>>> what I am about to say, I don't oppose it, and IF there is some compromise<br>
>>> position (though with all due respect - when you say to satisfy the desires<br>
>>> of some LNC members - you so far have been the only dissenting voice and are<br>
>>> an alternate - we do not yet know what your regional representative thinks<br>
>>> on the issue), using round numbers, this one:<br>
>>><br>
>>> We shorted 2015 by about 40K.<br>
>>> We have about 105K that we can take from the bequest that would not<br>
>>> otherwise be accessible.<br>
>>><br>
>>> That puts us at roughly 145K which would be satisfying our prior<br>
>>> obligation AND accessing money that is not coming from any other line item<br>
>>> next year (thus not shorting any other project).<br>
>>><br>
>>> So we were proposing paying another 55K. If we did that, we could not<br>
>>> make any further Wiener rule payments and still pay off early with no<br>
>>> balloon.<br>
>>><br>
>>> We could allot this 55K, not as an extra "payment" but as the 2017 Wiener<br>
>>> rule payment which we *already have to pay* if we are going to be compliant.<br>
>>> And we would be making an extra payment this year - only it is coming out of<br>
>>> the bequest.<br>
>>> So that is a 205K payment in 2017 which does not take away from anything<br>
>>> else in extra payment. And we would still be committed to the Wiener rule<br>
>>> payment in 2019.<br>
>>><br>
>>> This is basically getting back to Sam's original proposal of $150K. That<br>
>>> is the minimum I would accept in light of this information. We are<br>
>>> obligation to do a 60K payment in 2017 - what is at issue is whether we do<br>
>>> an "additional" 60K payment. But we could even perhaps do that - depending<br>
>>> on how the bequest rules are- we could make the 105K building fund this year<br>
>>> and exhaust the Bequest in the next year and use that generous donor's money<br>
>>> to get us more quickly out of this. AND still fund-raise to make additional<br>
>>> payments.<br>
>>><br>
>>> And this does not keep us from having funds for other projects.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I am not saying this is what I support but this is a reasonable path.<br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
>>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
>>> Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> If people were looking for that amortization worksheet Daniel Wiener<br>
>>>> referenced, I dug it out of the LNC archives and attach it here.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> I have stated my position. And assuming no earth-shattering new<br>
>>>>> information or argument, how I intend to vote. Rationale already given. I<br>
>>>>> have other motions and items that require my present attention.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016, Ken Moellman <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>><br>
>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Our Policy Manual also encourages specific fundraising for that<br>
>>>>>> purpose, in the same section that creates the minimums and creates priority.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> "It shall be the goal of the LNC to completely pay off the office<br>
>>>>>> mortgage as quickly as possible, and in any case prior to the due date of<br>
>>>>>> the 10-year balloon payment. Towards that end the LNC shall budget a minimum<br>
>>>>>> of $60,000 in each odd-numbered year to pay down the principal until the<br>
>>>>>> mortgage balance is zero. Fundraising for this specific purpose shall be<br>
>>>>>> made a high priority. This provision does not preclude additional<br>
>>>>>> fundraising and prepayments in even-numbered years. " (emphasis added)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Policy Manual specifically requires that we give high priority to<br>
>>>>>> raising money specifically to pay off the building. Have we done so this<br>
>>>>>> year? Do we have a plan to do so next year?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The particular section specifically mentions specific fundraising<br>
>>>>>> twice. While I think it is a reasonable assumption, based on the wording in<br>
>>>>>> the manual, that a 1-for-1 match would be sufficient, I proposed a 2-for-1<br>
>>>>>> because I do think it's important to pay down the mortgage and felt it might<br>
>>>>>> be an acceptable compromise.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> If we can create some priority - staff should exist - then we've<br>
>>>>>> already established that there's a balance to be struck. With that<br>
>>>>>> established, I believe that we can best comply with the Policy Manual and<br>
>>>>>> with the desires of multiple LNC members by having the 2-for-1 matching<br>
>>>>>> scenario.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> And if the membership wants this to be a high-priority project, then<br>
>>>>>> certainly they would put their money specifically toward that effort, would<br>
>>>>>> they not?<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 2016-11-28 09:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> No it doesn't. We have the 100K from the bequest that isn't part of<br>
>>>>>> our fundraising windfall. We have the deficit from the last payment to<br>
>>>>>> catch up- putting us st around 150K. Our policy manual - urges us- on our<br>
>>>>>> own- to get ahead. Putting the extra amount ahead is what is reasonable and<br>
>>>>>> what I will be supporting.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> No one has suggested there is not money for other things and this<br>
>>>>>> insures saved money for other things. We can do a fundraiser next year with<br>
>>>>>> our fiscally responsible choice in Dec as a selling point centerpiece.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016, Ken Moellman <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I guess it depends on who your target audience is. When I walk into<br>
>>>>>>> a shop and their IT infrastructure is a decade old, my immediate thought is<br>
>>>>>>> that the company doesn't have their priorities in order. Certainly, I'm<br>
>>>>>>> biased in that regard. Smaller manufacturing businesses are notorious from<br>
>>>>>>> being way out of date.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The Democratic Party provides websites for their candidates for a<br>
>>>>>>> nominal fee. Why? Because that way campaigns can focus on issues and real<br>
>>>>>>> politicking, not spending excessive amounts of time on back-office work.<br>
>>>>>>> They're out knocking on doors and building their base.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The Republican Party, through the Kochs, is building a massive<br>
>>>>>>> database of voters for their Big Data project. Why? Because that way they<br>
>>>>>>> know what issues drive voters. They can micro-target messaging, making their<br>
>>>>>>> outreach and GOTV more efficient.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> The Libertarian Party currently has a mailing list that sends<br>
>>>>>>> everything to a Google list so that people can subscribe to the Google list<br>
>>>>>>> to watch.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> If we are to appeal to the Millenial generation, we can't be running<br>
>>>>>>> on a 286 in a basement. Once upon a time, the LP was ahead of the game when<br>
>>>>>>> it came to technology. We have stagnated and let our competition overtake<br>
>>>>>>> us. If our primary political opponents are crushing us on the phones and at<br>
>>>>>>> the door, how do we ever expect to win?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> When I became chair of LPKY in 2007, we had no IT infrastructure. We<br>
>>>>>>> had a website that was put in place by the previous chair, that cost too<br>
>>>>>>> much money, was poorly organized, and didn't do the job. Thankfully, the<br>
>>>>>>> situation isn't exactly parallel - while there are problems, we don't have<br>
>>>>>>> to start over from scratch. But it will take time and investment to get the<br>
>>>>>>> website to where it needs to be. That will happen. Likewise, other parts of<br>
>>>>>>> our operation need to have similar focus.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I'm all about paying down debt. I absolutely love it, conceptually. I<br>
>>>>>>> just don't want to see us cripple the party in 2017 in order to achieve the<br>
>>>>>>> goal of paying off that debt.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> So here's what I'd propose, if we want to put over $200K toward the<br>
>>>>>>> mortgage. Let's do a 2-for-1 donation match. We put $60K in the budget, as<br>
>>>>>>> required. Subtracted from the proposed $207,500, that leaves $147,500. For<br>
>>>>>>> ease of numbers, let's round that up to $50,000. So, if we can raise<br>
>>>>>>> $50,000 specifically for paying off the building, we will put $100,000 as<br>
>>>>>>> the match. Let's let our membership determine the projects on which they<br>
>>>>>>> want us to spend the money.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Does that seem reasonable?<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On 2016-11-28 08:31, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> I would further note- if we make this payment now and make NO<br>
>>>>>>> additional payments (which I do not support) because the 60k is needed next<br>
>>>>>>> year (odd numbered year) - we will have freed future Libertarians from the<br>
>>>>>>> balloon payment AND an amount in interest that would pay a good chunk of a<br>
>>>>>>> ballot access drive. In every scenario, this is the right choice. And we<br>
>>>>>>> would have only two more policy manual extra payments - 2017 and 2019- and<br>
>>>>>>> the mortgage would be paid in full just by the 2020 election- a fantastic<br>
>>>>>>> example for others. We will have set up the next LNC for success.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> And our fiscal responsibility can be used in our new member retention<br>
>>>>>>> program as they can trust we are wise with funds.<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> There is no proposal to spend "all" of the discretionary monies.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> And Hagan pointed out this is a way we can have access to the bulk<br>
>>>>>>>> of a bequest that the donor certainly wished we had access to.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> The bequest money isn't available in that amount now for this OR<br>
>>>>>>>> that. It is available for this.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> Hagan's last option is the most prudent and responsible and does not<br>
>>>>>>>> require anything like an "all" scenario and doesn't burden the next decade<br>
>>>>>>>> of Libertarians with interest that the policy manual urged us to avoid in<br>
>>>>>>>> making more than the 60K extra- and here with the bequest we have the<br>
>>>>>>>> opportunity to access over 100K and have an unexpected windfall in new<br>
>>>>>>>> members.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> If any other priority is given as well - new member retention must<br>
>>>>>>>> be up there as mentioned in emails leading up to the Sept meeting.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> As for the website - well members were told that in 2006 too, and<br>
>>>>>>>> that data is still waiting.<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, November 28, 2016, Ken Moellman <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> My goal isn't to pull something over on people. If nothing else,<br>
>>>>>>>>> know that I am open with my personal thoughts on matters -- as you may have<br>
>>>>>>>>> noticed -- and I'm not trying to hide anything. I'm a Libertarian; I don't<br>
>>>>>>>>> believe in using force or fraud.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> There are other IT issues beyond the website that I dare not<br>
>>>>>>>>> mention on a public list; things that range from embarrassing to disabling.<br>
>>>>>>>>> I'll be more than happy to discuss these issues in person in December.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> The new IT committee is taking over from a previous committee with<br>
>>>>>>>>> an entirely different personnel makeup. The new IT Committee, such as it<br>
>>>>>>>>> exists at the moment, is far from ignoring the calls for repairs and changes<br>
>>>>>>>>> to the website. This is a priority of everyone involved. This is currently<br>
>>>>>>>>> being done under staff direction, and they are working on it. The website<br>
>>>>>>>>> continues to be populated with important information, and will continue to<br>
>>>>>>>>> evolve and have more information added/returned, in addition to other<br>
>>>>>>>>> important website changes. (Ironically, I was trying to find out exactly<br>
>>>>>>>>> when the building was purchased and couldn't because that information wasn't<br>
>>>>>>>>> brought over. Heh.) In sum, the website will get fixed to the best of our<br>
>>>>>>>>> ability.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> But if all the discretionary income gets spent on the mortgage<br>
>>>>>>>>> (which is not the worst way to spend it) then there won't be an opportunity<br>
>>>>>>>>> to get other fixes in place. And that's just IT. I know there are Ballot<br>
>>>>>>>>> Access drives in our future in 2017 - Arkansas and Ohio, specifically - and<br>
>>>>>>>>> those won't be cheap. Arkansas will be about $37,500 and Ohio will be about<br>
>>>>>>>>> $255,000, based on 2016 validity rates and assuming no volunteer signatures<br>
>>>>>>>>> or other sources of funding (which there will be, of course).<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, we need to really leverage 2016 to get a<br>
>>>>>>>>> record-breaking amount of fundraising in the "after-year".<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On 2016-11-27 23:26, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> Now that wasn't the entirety of my argument, but I am not getting<br>
>>>>>>>>> into another LNC spitting match. Interested members and readers can go<br>
>>>>>>>>> through my comments and see what I said- the policy manual was a big part,<br>
>>>>>>>>> but a part and not the entirety. It is indeed less out of date then than<br>
>>>>>>>>> now. And something obviously know as the passage of time and aging is a<br>
>>>>>>>>> known quantity. As is debt and interest, something Libertarians are<br>
>>>>>>>>> supposed to model fiscal responsibilities for. And having not transferred<br>
>>>>>>>>> 83% of our data certainly will look to our members like throwing good money<br>
>>>>>>>>> after bad.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> This is selling the members a bill of goods. Just like they are<br>
>>>>>>>>> suspecting on the website data loss. We have not inspired confidence, and I<br>
>>>>>>>>> am not about to vote to further sell our word down the river. The<br>
>>>>>>>>> ludicruousness of the proposition that a reading would mean to fire staff if<br>
>>>>>>>>> my reading that surpluses need to be given priority there is as self-evident<br>
>>>>>>>>> to me as the idea that we also do not need to sell ourselves into slavery as<br>
>>>>>>>>> committee persons. If it is not self-evident, then the sky is a different<br>
>>>>>>>>> colour in my world.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> With the data loss (more accurately lack of transfer - and there is<br>
>>>>>>>>> still a folfer of files from the 2006 site that were supposed to be restored<br>
>>>>>>>>> and not) and what I and enough others see as mismanagement of the website<br>
>>>>>>>>> transfer, if I were an affiliate, I would not be entrusting my affiliate's<br>
>>>>>>>>> email to a natonal-provided service. Let's get the website straightened out<br>
>>>>>>>>> and then perhaps other investments will be in order.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> And certainly that is not a bigger priority than already incurred<br>
>>>>>>>>> debt. There is ALWAYS something great to spend money on. We are selling<br>
>>>>>>>>> the efforts of future Libertarians just like our country is selling the<br>
>>>>>>>>> future of today's children. No. I will not do that. If we can't elimiante<br>
>>>>>>>>> our own debt we have zero business thinking we can tell others that is how<br>
>>>>>>>>> they have to live.<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 9:13 PM, Ken Moellman<br>
>>>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> My contention is that there may be other priorities upon which a<br>
>>>>>>>>>> portion of the proposed $207,500 spending on the office mortgage should be<br>
>>>>>>>>>> spent. I included the examples of Ballot Access and IT Infrastructure.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Your contention is that the priority must be given to the paying<br>
>>>>>>>>>> off of the mortgage, because the Policy Manual says so.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> The Policy Manual states in Section 2.03.17:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> "It shall be the goal of the LNC to completely pay off the office<br>
>>>>>>>>>> mortgage as quickly as possible, and in any case prior to the due date of<br>
>>>>>>>>>> the 10-year balloon payment. Towards that end the LNC shall budget a minimum<br>
>>>>>>>>>> of $60,000 in each odd-numbered year to pay down the principal until the<br>
>>>>>>>>>> mortgage balance is zero. Fundraising for this specific purpose shall be<br>
>>>>>>>>>> made a high priority. This provision does not preclude additional<br>
>>>>>>>>>> fundraising and prepayments in even-numbered years. " (emphasis added)<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> The portion of the policy manual highlighted above seems to be<br>
>>>>>>>>>> that to which you reference when you made your statement.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Additionally, you state that you are unwilling to give higher<br>
>>>>>>>>>> priority to the IT Infrastructure, stating that the infrastructure was a<br>
>>>>>>>>>> decade old when the building was purchased.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> First, the infrastructure was less out-of-date than it is now. It<br>
>>>>>>>>>> continues to get further and further out of date. We continue to use hacks<br>
>>>>>>>>>> and other non-standard practices to accomplish goals with the existing<br>
>>>>>>>>>> infrastructure, rather than upgrade. There is a real cost to this.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> LPedia's decay is an easy example of what happens when things don't get<br>
>>>>>>>>>> upgraded - upgrading MediaWiki to a newer version is incredibly painful at<br>
>>>>>>>>>> this point.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Second, IT infrastructure upgrades would actually make staff and<br>
>>>>>>>>>> affiliate parties more productive. Imagine if LP National could, as part of<br>
>>>>>>>>>> a broader upgrade, provide basic services to affiliate parties such as email<br>
>>>>>>>>>> services. Instead of 52 organizations all trying to figure out how to manage<br>
>>>>>>>>>> email, we could upgrade National's email infrastructure and provide email<br>
>>>>>>>>>> services to all 51 affiliates.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Third, there are real security issues that do need to be<br>
>>>>>>>>>> addressed. There are security patches released almost every single day.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> We're approximately 3000 days behind on security patches on a few pieces of<br>
>>>>>>>>>> our infrastructure.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, if we are to forgo some projects with clear benefits, like IT<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Infrastructure improvements, because the Policy Manual tells us we must pay<br>
>>>>>>>>>> down the mortgage before all other things, then what is ludicrous with<br>
>>>>>>>>>> suggesting using the staff budget for further paying down the mortgage?<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Certainly, I think it's a bad idea. But I also think foregoing<br>
>>>>>>>>>> other important tasks in favor of paying down the mortgage is also a bad<br>
>>>>>>>>>> idea.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> That's just my $0.02 on the matter.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-11-27 22:35, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> No frankly that is a ludicrous interpretation. And paying any more<br>
>>>>>>>>>> interest that we have to in member money (OPM) is even moreso. This is why<br>
>>>>>>>>>> members view this body with distrust.<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Ken Moellman<br>
>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm just pointing out that there are other items that also need<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> attention. As an alternate, I probably won't get a vote anyway.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we are to take the strictest interpretation of 2.03.17, we<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> should lay off all of the staff and put their salaries toward the building<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> debt as well. However, I would suggest that doing so would be a foolish<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> approach.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Putting off IT infrastructure upgrades is only going to make the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> inevitable more painful in the long-term.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-11-27 22:06, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Further the bequest rules make it a no-brainer in my view.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'carynannharlos@gmail.com')">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ken, while I appreciate that, our Policy Manual puts the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> building pay-off as a priority. We can always find an excuse to put that<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> off. I will not. If we are going to expect our government to follow<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> commitments and shed debt, we must. The IT infrastructure that exists -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> existed at the same time we got the mortgage. We sold the idea of the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mortgage to members on a certain committement and vision, and I fully intend<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> to keep it.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 7:45 PM, Ken Moellman<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'ken.moellman@lpky.org')">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> While paying off the building faster is a great goal, we may<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have other priorities.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specifically, we have 12 states without ballot access at this<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> time, and we have an IT infrastructure that's from the last century -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally. These things will take money to remedy.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just something to keep in mind.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LPKY Judicial Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2016-11-27 19:42, David Demarest wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Your plan sets a good example of fiscal responsibility for all<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarians. I also support your higher amount.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The War on Compulsory Authoritarian Majority Rule Cronyism<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Begins Now<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org')">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] On<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 4:33 PM<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Tim Hagan <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com')">timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com</a>>; Libertarian National<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committee list <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Added Mortgage Payment<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That sounds like the smart plan. Future Libertarians will<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank us. I support your higher amount.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Tim Hagan<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com')">timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will call your $150,000 and raise it to $207,500. I request<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we add 20 minutes to the December meeting agenda for a motion to make a<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> payment on the principal on our office mortgage.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The mortgage's loan rate is 4.85% with a balloon payment at ten<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> years, which is in July 24, 2024. Robert was kind enough to furnish the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> attached load amortization spreadsheet. I ran five scenarios on it to get<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the amount of interest we will pay from December 2016 to when the balloon<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> payment is due, and to get the amount of the balloon payment that will be<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> due at that time.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Without any more prepayments (not paying an extra $60,000 on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> odd-numbered years):<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest: $139,400.40<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Balloon payment due 7/24/2024: $301,040.34<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the current policy of paying an extra $60,000 on<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> odd-numbered years:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest: $84,900.77<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Balloon payment due 7/24/2024: $6,540.71<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paying an additional $207,500 in the December payment, and not<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying extra in future years:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest: $45,751.59<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Balloon payment due 7/24/2024: $0.00<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paying an additional $150,00 in the December payment, and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying an extra $60,000 on odd-numbered years:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest: $32,805.22<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mortgage gets paid off July 2021.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paying an additional $207,500 in the December payment, and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paying an extra $60,000 on odd-numbered years:<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Interest: $19,879.20<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mortgage gets paid off May 2020.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As you can see, paying $207,500 in December will eliminate<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> having a balloon payment in 2024 and will save at least $39k in interest. If<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we keep the Weiner rule, it will save $65k in interest and have the mortgage<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> paid off four years early. The targeted Reserve is the sum of all monthly<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> occupancy, labor and governance expenses, which comes to $45,292. At the end<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of October, the reserve was at $415,669, so I am comfortable with paying<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $207,500, even if next year's budget has a large deficit. We will have new<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reserve number before the meeting.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The trust from a bequest has $167,404. We have been taking the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maximum allowable amount out each year for the general fund. A law passed<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> December 2014 now allows national political committees to have a separate<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> segregated building fund with its own contribution limit of three times the<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> limit for the general fund. We have not done this before, because we needed<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bequest for the general fund, but we can transfer up to $100,200 from<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bequest to the building fund and use those funds toward making a payment<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the mortgage principal.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My preference is to pay at least $207,500 toward the mortgage<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> principal to save on interest payments and to ensure no balloon payment. If<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that passes, then I would favor reducing the policy to budget an extra $60k<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on odd years.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Hagan<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>__<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Sam Goldstein <<a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com')">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 8:11 AM<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Lnc-business] Added Mortgage Payment<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I intend to make a motion at our next meeting to spend a good<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> portion of our 2016 surplus to make a payment on the principal on our office<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mortgage.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not knowing our final numbers at this time lends some<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uncertainty to that number, but I would like to start the bidding at<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> $150,000. That amount ought to leave us in a very favorable position as to<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our ongoing reserve for unforeseen expenses over the next few years.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone want to offer a lower/higher amount? If so, what<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is your reasoning.<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks and<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Live Free,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sam Goldstein<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Member at Large<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>
>>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> In Liberty,<br>
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
>>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
>>> Harlos@LP.org<br>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>
>>> <a href="javascript:;" onclick="_e(event, 'cvml', 'Lnc-business@hq.lp.org')">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
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>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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>><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> In Liberty,<br>
> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>
> Harlos@LP.org<br>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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</blockquote><br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>