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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ditto Starchild on the content, and, just as important, the <u>intent</u>…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Starchild [mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 01, 2016 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Demarest <dpdemarest@centurylink.net><br><b>Cc:</b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org; david.demarest@firstdata.com; 'Caryn Ann Harlos' <carynannharlos@gmail.com>; 'Joshua Katz' <planning4liberty@gmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>I'm not sure I understand the net content of what's being proposed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:03 AM, David Demarest wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Starchild, I echo your “more serious note” thought. I would suggest amending the phrase as follows: “<b><u>transparency</u></b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>messaging strategy”.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Secretary Pro Tem, LNC Affiliate Support Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Board Member and Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cell: 402-981-6469</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Home: 402-493-0873</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Office: 402-222-7207</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lnc-business [<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org">mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Starchild<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:59 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>It may be a committee of one, but that won't necessarily stop it from expanding if it consumes a lot of BBQ meat at the LNC meeting. :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>On a more serious note – what Caryn Ann said about messaging strategy. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mr Hayes is clearly jealous that he does not get his own committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam (Committee of one)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>317-850-0726 Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>317-582-1773 Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Daniel Hayes <<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I must object. The Sam Committee is clearly out of order!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><p class=MsoNormal>Daniel Hayes<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div id="m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><p class=MsoNormal>LNChili At Large Member<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:53 PM, David Demarest <<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Caryn Ann, I will cosponsor your Sam Committee proposal -<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lnc-business [<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:08 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Libertarian National Committee list <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am seeking to propose the Sam Committee. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sam Goldstein <<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you guys keep proposing new committees we might have to expand<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>the LNC just to fill all of them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Sam</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20850-0726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20582-1773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joshua, as I am sure you can anticipate, I am not at all in favour of a committee to come up with messaging strategy. If there is one thing that the LNC must be able to do on its own and take command of, its that. With the (I believe completely inappropriate) messaging agenda without explicit LNC approval involved in the new website, I will look with a jaundiced eye at shunting that to a committee. And evenmoreso if that committee is cloaked in secrecy. Members have a vested interest in seeing that we are proper stewards of the Statement of Principles. THAT is our message, and thus, any "strategy" about it must be in full sunshine. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Joshua Katz <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Well, I can live with it, and I apologize for being unclear, but my intent was not to have a freewheelin' discussion about messaging strategy, or to discuss a messaging strategy at all, to be honest. Instead, my intent was to introduce a motion to appoint a committee to come up with one. I would ask, if possible, if it can be moved from the lunch to new business without previous notice. 5 minutes can suffice.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joshua A. Katz<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear All,<br><br>I've attached a draft proposed agenda for the meeting on December 10<br>and 11. I've made efforts to accommodate all requests for time I've<br>received and still have the meeting fit within the time available.<br>Please let me know if there are requests I've missed or changes you<br>would suggest.<br><br>Yours truly,<br>Nick <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> </span><Untitled attachment 03009.txt><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>