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<p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p2">Broad messaging guidelines can be handled by the LNC- and should be.  However, I found that your examples did not provide a complete picture.  And I think it is a solution looking for a problem.</p>
<p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-s1"><b>The “urgent-gram” </b>:The APRC doesn’t just check for rules violations as you know.  It also checks for possible denigration of image of the Party and should have caught that.  The fact that the LNC might not like a decision of the APRC doesn’t indicate a need to form a new committee that removes that job from the LNC or the APRC.  It means perhaps the LNC needs to issue some “image of the Party” guidelines to the APRC - or just realize that sometimes there will be disagreements and imperfect humans make imperfect decisions.  There is no need to create "turtles all the way down."</span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-s1"><b>The FB meme</b>: I do not think that portrayed what happened completely.  The suggestion was that we “Don’t need any more Clintons, Bushs, or Pauls” - and was seen as a slam on Ron by libertarians - and not solely an issue of whether or not libertarians should vote for Rand (I think it is obvious that the Party will not be promoting voting for a Presidential candidate who is not the Libertarian candidate) - the issue with including Rand was that many people felt it was egregious to compare Rand to a Clinton or a Bush.  I remember that situation quite well.  Further the meme was inaccurate as it was referring to prior people who were elected (a prior Clinton and a prior Bush and thus not needing another one of those) and equated that to a Paul as if Ron were previously elected.  And all THAT should have been caught by the APRC. That would not have been solved by any additional committee as the “policing” of that would still be APRC.  The bad juju should have been obvious, and it was a slipping through the cracks of something that should have been caught, and no additional committee would have prevented that.  Here is an article by a site that was pro-Rand at the time: <a href="https://alibertarianfuture.com/big-government/propaganda/the-libertarian-party-attacked-rand-paul-libertarians-attacked-back/" target="_blank"><span class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-s2">https://<wbr>alibertarianfuture.com/big-<wbr>government/propaganda/the-<wbr>libertarian-party-attacked-<wbr>rand-paul-libertarians-<wbr>attacked-back/</span></a>   However, FB is high volume and the way to review it is somewhat clunky, and things like that may occasionally happen.  </span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p1"><span class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-s1">The staff is given feedback. Through the APRC as set up.  We HAVE a messaging gatekeeper already.  The APRC is set up to do just that, and if broad messaging guidelines need to be promulgated, let’s do it.  Part of the issue as I see it, is that we have more responsibilities than can be handled in quarterly meetings, and the email list is inefficient for some things, and ignored by some members of the committee for whatever reason - reason isn’t relevant when we are just dealing with reality.  If the LNC needs to provide more direction on things like this, we should set up an electronic special meeting to do so and take care of it as the quarterly meetings are already quite full.</span></p>
<p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p2">If the LNC needs to issue messaging guidelines, let the LNC do it.  That is OUR job - and ultimately - the Chair who sets the tone and messaging during his/her tenure.<br><span class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-s1"></span></p><p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p2"><br></p><p class="gmail-m_6026697898786407122gmail-p2"><br class="gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">-- <br></p><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If it goes on the blog next week I'm satisfied.<div><br></div><div>The earlier post about the HQ party did not have the livestream link which is what I want to be sure is suitably advertised to members,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span class=""><span></span><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">-- <br></span></font><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">In Liberty,</font></b></div><div><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><font size="2">Caryn Ann Harlos</font></b></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></font></div><div><font size="2"><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><br></span></font></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></span><div><div class="h5">On Friday, December 2, 2016, Wes Benedict <<a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>I don't think it's relevant to put it on the home page right
      now.  I plan to promote it on the blog next week so it will be on
      the home page the week of the meeting. An announcement including a
      link to the meeting details was emailed to our list and was also
      posted on the home page for a while:
      <a href="https://www.lp.org/election-update-party-at-headquarters-i-t-volunteers/" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/election-up<wbr>date-party-at-headquarters-i-t<wbr>-volunteers/</a><br>
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    <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:(202)%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div>On 12/1/2016 9:12 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
      wrote:<br>
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                      <div><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                      <div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative,
                          Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona,
                          Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                          Wyoming, Washington) - <a style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Caryn.Ann.
                            Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                          Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                            Colorado</a></span></div>
                      <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                          State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical
                            Caucus</a></span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:46 PM, Caryn
          Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a>carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                been submitted.</div>
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                                    Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                              <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                  Representative, Libertarian National
                                  Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                  Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
                                  Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a>Caryn.Ann.
                                    Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                              <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                  Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of
                                    Colorado</a></span></div>
                              <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                  State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party
                                    Radical Caucus</a></span></div>
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                      PM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
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                          <p>Draft proposed agenda and live broadcast
                            link is posted here towards the bottom of
                            the even details: <br>
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                          <p><a href="https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-alexandria/" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-m<wbr>eeting-alexandria/</a></p>
                          <p>Reports will be added as they become
                            available and as time permits to get them
                            loaded.<br>
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                          <pre cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a>wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
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                            <div>On
                              11/30/2016 10:25 AM, Nicholas Sarwark
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <pre>Dear All,

I've attached a draft proposed agenda for the meeting on December 10
and 11.  I've made efforts to accommodate all requests for time I've
received and still have the meeting fit within the time available.
Please let me know if there are requests I've missed or changes you
would suggest.

Yours truly,
Nick
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<br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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