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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Joshua,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thank you for your explanation of hypothetical LNC messaging issues that could be addressed by a messaging committee. Can you be more specific on any actual current messaging issues that would necessitate the creation of a committee as opposed to LNC proper dealing with messaging issues directly as they come up?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If there are no current LNC messaging issues, I suggest that the LNC proper deal with the next actual messaging concern. If we are unable to satisfactorily resolve the concern, then we can consider your messaging committee suggestion. Why create a committee for a problem that may not exist? If there is no immediate LNC messaging concern, is the real intent to influence the direction of LNC messaging without the direct involvement of the LNC?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Libertarians – We Stand For FREEDOM, Nothing More, Nothing Less</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE</span></i></b><b><i><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Secretary Pro Tem, LNC Affiliate Support Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Board Member and Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cell: 402-981-6469<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Home: 402-493-0873<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Office: 402-222-7207<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Starchild<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 01, 2016 9:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span>All of that makes sense to me, Joshua. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 1, 2016, at 7:00 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks for asking. Short answer: I envision the committee making a recommendation to the LNC. I agree with my colleague from Colorado that a comprehensive messaging strategy is a board-level decision, but I often think board-level decisions can be aided by asking a small committee to do research and report, with the decision reserved to the board.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There was also a question about my intent. This is my second term, in some capacity, on the LNC. It's also my second term on the APRC. Based on that small degree of experience, it seems to me that the LNC has, to a large extent, not taken all that much of a position on questions like "how do we wish to present ourselves to the world?" Instead, we've left it to staff with no real direction, and then occasionally said "you're doing it wrong." I think it is better to provide overall guidance and instructions, followed by accountability, rather than trying to exercise governance by looking at progress on a daily basis. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'd like us to be able to ask questions on a quarterly basis like "Are our communications presenting the party as we've instructed?" "Has there been an impact on X?" "Do we need to adjust our strategy?" I think this would be better than periodically freaking out over a FB meme or an urgent-gram. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Direct, assess, hold accountable. Have a core idea of how we'd like to be presented that is known ahead of time, not arising from rejections. This would enable this board to focus on large objectives. When we do not have such things in place, the tendency is to micro-manage, because that becomes the only way we can exert control.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joshua A. Katz<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Starchild <<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Actually I meant the net content after your suggested amendment David, if you were being serious about that. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But now that you mention it, I'm not super clear on what Joshua had in mind for a hypothetical messaging strategy committee to do either. Would you envision this committee having any powers beyond recommending a messaging strategy to the LNC, Joshua? If not, I guess I wouldn't have a problem with appointing some people to brainstorm on the subject, so long as they operated transparently and allowed LP members to participate in their conversations.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 1, 2016, at 6:10 AM, David Demarest wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Ditto Starchild on the content, and, just as important, the<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><u>intent</u>…</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Starchild [mailto:<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>]<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, December 01, 2016 7:33 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>David Demarest <<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>;<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:david.demarest@firstdata.com" target="_blank">david.demarest@firstdata.com</a>; 'Caryn Ann Harlos' <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>>; 'Joshua Katz' <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-tab-span> </span><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>I'm not sure I understand the net content of what's being proposed.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Dec 1, 2016, at 4:03 AM, David Demarest wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Starchild, I echo your “more serious note” thought. I would suggest amending the phrase as follows: “<b><u>transparency</u></b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>messaging strategy”.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Libertarianism - Leader Humility, Transparancy, Principle Before Party</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Secretary, Nebraska Libertarian State Central Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Secretary Pro Tem, LNC Affiliate Support Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Board Member and Nebraska State Coordinator, LP Radical Caucus</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Cell: <a href="tel:(402)%20981-6469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Home: <a href="tel:(402)%20493-0873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Office: <a href="tel:(402)%20222-7207" target="_blank">402-222-7207</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lnc-business [<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span></b>Starchild<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, December 01, 2016 4:59 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-tab-span> </span><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>It may be a committee of one, but that won't necessarily stop it from expanding if it consumes a lot of BBQ meat at the LNC meeting. :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-tab-span> </span><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>On a more serious note – what Caryn Ann said about messaging strategy. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Love & Liberty,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> ((( starchild )))<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> (415) 625-FREE<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> @StarchildSF<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Nov 30, 2016, at 6:11 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mr Hayes is clearly jealous that he does not get his own committee.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam (Committee of one)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20850-0726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20582-1773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:57 PM, Daniel Hayes <<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I must object. The Sam Committee is clearly out of order!<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1813004391336788282m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1813004391336788282m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Daniel Hayes<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-1813004391336788282m_3943436686364075109AppleMailSignature"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>LNChili At Large Member<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Nov 30, 2016, at 7:53 PM, David Demarest <<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Caryn Ann, I will cosponsor your Sam Committee proposal -<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE!</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Lnc-business [<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span></b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, November 30, 2016 1:08 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Libertarian National Committee list <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Chair's Proposed Agenda - LNC Meeting December 10-11, 2016</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I am seeking to propose the Sam Committee. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:05 PM, Sam Goldstein <<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If you guys keep proposing new committees we might have to expand<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>the LNC just to fill all of them.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Sam</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20850-0726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:(317)%20582-1773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a><span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span>Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joshua, as I am sure you can anticipate, I am not at all in favour of a committee to come up with messaging strategy. If there is one thing that the LNC must be able to do on its own and take command of, its that. With the (I believe completely inappropriate) messaging agenda without explicit LNC approval involved in the new website, I will look with a jaundiced eye at shunting that to a committee. And evenmoreso if that committee is cloaked in secrecy. Members have a vested interest in seeing that we are proper stewards of the Statement of Principles. THAT is our message, and thus, any "strategy" about it must be in full sunshine. <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<span class=m-1813004391336788282apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Joshua Katz <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Well, I can live with it, and I apologize for being unclear, but my intent was not to have a freewheelin' discussion about messaging strategy, or to discuss a messaging strategy at all, to be honest. Instead, my intent was to introduce a motion to appoint a committee to come up with one. I would ask, if possible, if it can be moved from the lunch to new business without previous notice. 5 minutes can suffice.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joshua A. Katz<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org" target="_blank">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid windowtext 3.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;border-width:initial;border-color:initial'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dear All,<br><br>I've attached a draft proposed agenda for the meeting on December 10<br>and 11. I've made efforts to accommodate all requests for time I've<br>received and still have the meeting fit within the time available.<br>Please let me know if there are requests I've missed or changes you<br>would suggest.<br><br>Yours truly,<br>Nick <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> </span><Untitled attachment 03009.txt><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><Untitled attachment 03271.txt><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>