<div dir="ltr">Well, sure, I'm game for this, and I might learn something. You're right, I learned from doing CT ballot access last summer. <div><br></div><div>I do want some additional clarification, at the same time. (I would advise charging the time to provide it to administration.) To be honest, I'm confused because I do not see how this line of discussion is responsive to what I said. If I had proposed, for example, a timesheet policy, I'd understand this response. I'm not proposing one - we've had one for years. I'm proposing that the LNC budget a certain way. So what is the reason for responding as if I were proposing something new for staff?</div><div><br></div><div>In fact, off-list, I received a report showing what 2014 would look like if allocated according to 2013 timesheets. I don't know why it is shown that way, but regardless, this shows me that time is, in fact, being allocated. So how would it impose anything new on staff for the LNC to budget accordingly? The numbers I received came, presumably, from somewhere.</div><div><br></div><div>I have also received some comments and feedback. Some point out that months are different, which makes perfect sense. I'm not sure why this prevents us from funding compensation from the appropriate line items on an annual budget, though - in some months, some lines will be drawn down more than others, but I'm not convinced that's a problem.</div><div><br></div><div>I've seen concern about having to vote more often to amend the budget if we're off. This is certainly a possibility, and likely to occur more often in the first year than it will with more practice. However, I think a point is being missed here. While a large part of what I'm trying to do is show how time is spent, I am also trying to have the board use the budget to govern. Sure, staff could simply not react to what we do, and then come to us with amendment requests, but in a healthy organization, staff works within board governance. In other words, I am not assuming we will simply be ignored, and I do not think that would be appropriate. </div><div><br></div><div>I'd also point out that I'm not suggesting anything new, bold, or revolutionary. I'm not claiming to have chanced upon a genius idea. It is standard practice to fund compensation from the appropriate lines. Nor are we too small: I served on a (public) board with 3 staff members, and we allocated their time rather than dumping it into a single line item. This is part and parcel of how well-functioning boards operate because it gives them levers of control without requiring them to jump into the weeds. </div><div><br></div><div>I understand that, as you write, it gets fuzzy. I think I acknowledged in my first message that this is not a search for perfection; estimates and inaccuracies tend to come out in the wash. If you spend .03 hour on something, it won't get reported. Next time, you might overestimate the time you spend on that item. There is space - the space where board directions are followed and useful information produced - between perfect recording and dumping 50% of the budget into a black box. When the current proposal is simply to not budget staff time by function at all, I don't consider it persuasive to point to the fact that there would be some inaccuracy in a functional budget.</div><div><br></div><div>I also am not proposed to send unhappy members a 14 page report. I am proposing that they not be made unhappy (at least in this regard) by being shown a black-box budget in the first place, and that they instead be able to look at a budget much like this one, except that the Compensation line is reduced and other lines increased. You spend a lot of time supporting affiliates - a member should be able to see that, at a glance, by looking at the budget and seeing a chunk of money allocated to Affiliate Support, not seeing a rather puny number there and half the budget in Compensation, then trying to imagine how much of that compensation translates to affiliate support. </div><div><br></div><div>Finally, Wes, while I consolidated my responses, don't feel that this entire message is directed at you. It is mostly to the LNC, and I'm not trying to step on the chair's prerogative to manage as CEO by debating with you or giving you instructions. For example, if you don't feel like answering my question above, feel free not to. As a board member, I have no power except to vote on the board. Also, as I said before, I am happy (with my EPCC hat on) to hear suggestions as to how we can allocate compensation in other ways. If the policy needs to be modified, I am open to modifying it, but not by giving up on the idea of governing this item.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Caryn Ann, I don't mind if you do it successfully. I'm not
saying it can't be done.</p>
<p>So, I hereby challenge you to do it, if you can do it without my
help (meaning don't ask me what goes in what category).<br>
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</span><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-6339684297380576435moz-cite-prefix">On 12/2/2016 5:11 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
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to. I'm a paralegal. My entire work day requires me to keep
track of every six minute block by L and A codes. I have done
it for twenty years. It does require setting guidelines for
what things get calculated as and tolerance levels on level of
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<p>An interesting experiment would be for each LNC
member to track its hours for one month according to
the Functional Allocation of Expenses procedures
requested. It would give you some hands on experience
in dealing with the reality that we switch categories
often every few minutes, like from:<br>
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<p>40 - Admin (this conversation)</p>
<p>88 - Outreach (LNC photos on the website)</p>
<p>80 - Media or 85 - Member Communications (delivering
the message the LNC wants)</p>
<p>85 - Member Communication (recording the termination
of the membership of person who disapproves of LNC
buying meat)</p>
<p>40 Admin? or 55 Branding? or 70 - Ballot Access? -
approving staff getting a poster about ballot access
printed.<br>
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<p>I literally switch tasks every few minutes. Trying to
track this in detail is very tough.</p>
<p>I really would like to see the LNC track themselves
for a month. You'll find out how hard this is after
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Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
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<div>I pointed out earlier the concern I am
expressing here, but I did it briefly and without
much explanation, because I wanted to know if, in
fact, I have misunderstood, if I was making a big
mistake, and if my concerns were unfounded. All
of that remains perfectly possible, but the fact
that I have not received an explanation making
those points suggests to me that perhaps I am onto
something important.</div>
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<div>80% of the proposed budget is accounted for by
administration and compensation. A member seeing
that might be excused for believing that the
national party simply consumes 80 cents of each
dollar received. This would be a mistake, but it
would be an understandable mistake - and one we
can easily prevent. </div>
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<div>This member would be mistaken because
compensation is not consumption. Staff does a lot
of things. Staff work is a very large proportion
of what the national party does. When we see an
affiliate support line with a rather small number
on it, it conceals the fact that staff spends a
good amount of time supporting affiliates. Since
staff time is split between different functions,
we have a timesheet policy allowing staff time to
be billed to different lines. </div>
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<div>So this brings us to, perhaps, a bigger
problem: even knowing this, the member reading
this budget has no idea how much of staff time is
spent on what projects. Perhaps most importantly,
neither does the LNC. Certainly the LNC is not
giving direction as to how staff time should be
spent. We have, essentially, created a black box
into which we place 50% of the annual budget. </div>
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<div>A budget that breaks down staff time the way it
is to be billed, and that funds staff time from
line items, also allows members, at a glance, to
see what priorities the national party has, and to
know easily and quickly what staff is doing. Most
importantly, it assures members that these
priorities are being set by those they elect to
make such decisions, not being left to the ED, or
to chance, or to "whatever is most pressing at the
moment." I have said before that my most
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<div>After all, functional and operational
transparency require not only that members see and
hear us talking, but that we are talking about the
things that members need to know. If we make
ourselves open, but exercise no control over fully
half the budget, we are not transparent.</div>
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<div>This is not at all hard to fix. We know the
proposed total compensation. We may modify it at
our meeting. A portion of that, perhaps 20%,
should be left in the compensation black-box. The
LNC can decide what we'd like to prioritize by
setting percentages to various functional lines.
The remaining compensation multiplied by the
percentage gives the amount to be moved from
compensation to the appropriate line item.</div>
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<div>Maintaining is also easy. Simply fund
compensation from the various lines, in accordance
with the timesheets received. The Treasurer can,
in turn, keep an eye on the lines, and see if some
lines are over or under funded. If so, the board
can decide how to react - by amending the budget,
or by instructing staff to respect the priorities
set. </div>
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<div>I am not known as a transparency champion. In
large part, I have a different notion of
transparency from many of my colleagues. The
above shows the sort of transparency I worry
about. I hope, though, that my colleagues who are
known as transparency champions will join me on
this issue, and join me in requesting that we not
place 50% of our annual expenditure in a black-box
line item such that members cannot use the budget
to determine what it is that we do, and we cannot
use the budget to govern the organization.</div>
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<div>For my part, I am disinclined to vote for a
budget that black-boxes 50%, and that charges 80%
to administration.</div>
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