<html><head><base href="x-msg://111/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks for your question David. I expect many if not most of the groups on the list will be at least somewhat familiar to most LNC members, so it's probably not the case that anyone would need to visit 35 separate websites in order to have a passing familiarity with the list. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Remember also that these are just weblinks which can readily be removed again if some issue were to come to our attention that made a group beyond the pale from a libertarian perspective. This is not about sending them money or even giving any formal statement of endorsement. I'm also not sure that the 25 groups already listed on our site have had any LNC vetting whatsoever (not that I have any concerns about any of them).</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Of course I don't agree with every single position taken, article published, etc., by every group, on either our current list of 25 or my list of 35 proposed additions, and other LNC members probably won't either (e.g. GOA has often endorsed Republican candidates, the Niskanen Center supports the anthropogenic theory of climate change and recommends a global carbon tax as a way to address it, the Mises Institute has published articles advocating restrictions on immigration, etc.) – but then how many of us always agree with everything the LP itself says or does either?</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>On the whole, I will vouch for these groups and sites as pro-freedom organizations doing good and important work spreading libertarian ideas and advancing libertarian goals. So while I would encourage anyone who is unfamiliar with or has doubts about a particular group to check out their site, do a quick websearch, ask around, etc., I wouldn't stress too much if you don't have time to do so. If we vote to add the names and you later become aware of some issue with a group serious enough from a libertarian perspective that it outweighs the good they are doing for the cause and we wouldn't want to be in any way associated with them, by all means bring it up so we can have their link removed.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This particular list is not set in stone either, of course. I tried to come up with a list that was balanced in terms of representing a range of different issues, different types of groups, not exclusively radical libertarian by any means, but certainly with those views represented. However I'm open to further additions or removals. I do think the bar for <i>representing the Libertarian Party as a candidate for public office</i> should be set higher than the bar for having a link on the LP website though – again these are just links, not people explicitly acting in the name of the party. So unless you would consider it a no-brainer for the LP to censure or boycott a candidate running as a Libertarian who took some particular stance or action, it would not make any sense in my opinion to reject a group's inclusion here for taking that stance or action.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "> (415) 625-FREE</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "> @StarchildSF</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "><br></span></div><br><div><div>On Dec 8, 2016, at 6:47 PM, David Demarest wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Starchild,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I like the direction you are going on this proposal. How would you suggest that we go about due diligence on the long list of organizations that you are proposing for approval by the LNC?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></i></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Libertarians – We Stand For FREEDOM, Nothing More, Nothing Less</span></i></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE</span></i></b><b><i><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p></o:p></span></i></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "> <o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">~David Pratt Demarest<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Region 6 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Cell: 402-981-6469<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Home: 402-493-0873<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Office: 402-222-7207<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-right-style: none; border-bottom-style: none; border-left-style: none; border-width: initial; border-color: initial; border-top-style: solid; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding-top: 3pt; padding-right: 0in; padding-bottom: 0in; padding-left: 0in; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Starchild<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, December 08, 2016 9:56 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Lnc-business] MOTION: Update Liberty Links page on our website<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "><br> One cool feature which has been on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://LP.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LP.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>for a few years now but which looks better on the new site is the Liberty Links page –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>– which can be found by clicking on that title under the "Contact" header found at the bottom of each page on the site.<br><br> Like the story on Save Scranton currently on the front page of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://LP.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LP.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that I mentioned in another recent post, linking to other pro-freedom organizations and websites is an important affirmation of our status as the Party of Principle – a party that isn't just another political party, but part of a larger libertarian movement which is made up of an ever-growing number of organizations and people in the United States and around the world who are fighting for freedom and with whom we stand in solidarity.<br><br> However while our movement continues to grow, the number of fellow traveler organizations linked from our site has remained about the same since the feature was added in December 2010, going from 18 listings then to just 25 listings currently. [Thanks to the Internet Archive by the way for making this and so much other historical data about our site and many other websites available – see<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20100601000000*/http:/www.LP.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">https://web.archive.org/web/20100601000000*/http://www.LP.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>]<br><br> I propose we expand our listings to reflect the growing freedom movement by adding links to the following 35 additional groups and informational resources, including many prominent movement sites that have been too long overlooked, to bring our total number of linked sites to 60 (a round number, divisible by four to nicely fit the formatting of the new site), and request co-sponsors for this motion.<br><br>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><b>MOTION: I move that we direct staff to add these pro-freedom groups and links to the Liberty Links page on our website (currently at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><br><b><a href="https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; "><span style="font-weight: normal; ">https://www.lp.org/liberty-links/</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>):<br><br>Alliance for the Separation of School and State –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://SchoolAndState.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">SchoolAndState.org</a><br>Atlas Network –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://AtlasNetwork.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">AtlasNetwork.org</a><br>BitcoinNotBombs –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://BitcoinNotBombs.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">BitcoinNotBombs.com</a><br>Bleeding Heart Libertarians –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://BleedingHeartLibertarians.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">BleedingHeartLibertarians.com</a><br>Campaign For Liberty –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://CampaignForLiberty.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">CampaignForLiberty.com</a><br>Center for a Stateless Society –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://C4SS.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">C4SS.org</a><br>Copblock –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://Copblock.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">Copblock.org</a><br>Economic Freedom Network –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FreeTheWorld.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FreeTheWorld.com</a><br>Electronic Frontier Foundation –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://EFF.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">EFF.org</a><br>Erotic Service Providers Legal Education & Research Project –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://DecriminalizeSexWork.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">DecriminalizeSexWork.com</a><br>Families Against Mandatory Minimums –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FAMM.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FAMM.org</a><br>The Free State Project –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FreeStateProject.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FreeStateProject.org</a><br>Free Talk Live – <a href="http://FreeTalkLive.com">FreeTalkLive.com</a><br>Freedoms Phoenix –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FreedomsPhoenix.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FreedomsPhoenix.com</a><br>Fully Informed Jury Association –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FIJA.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FIJA.org</a><br>The Future of Freedom Foundation –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://FFF.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">FFF.org</a><br>Gun Owners of America –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://GunOwners.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">GunOwners.org</a><br>Independent Political Report –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://IndependentPoliticalReport.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">IndependentPoliticalReport.com</a><br>The Innocence Project –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://InnocenceProject.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">InnocenceProject.org</a><br>Institute for Humane Studies –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://TheIHS.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">TheIHS.org</a><br>LewRockwell –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://LewRockwell.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LewRockwell.com</a><br>Libertarian Rock –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://LibertarianRock.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LibertarianRock.com</a><br>The Liberty Radio Network – LRN.fm<br>Miss Liberty's Film & Documentary World –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://MissLiberty.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">MissLiberty.com</a><br>LPedia –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://LPedia.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LPedia.org</a><br>National Youth Rights Association –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://YouthRights.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">YouthRights.org</a><br>Niskanen Center –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://NiskanenCenter.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">NiskanenCenter.org</a><br>Open Borders –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://OpenBorders.info" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">OpenBorders.info</a><br>Outright Libertarians –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://OutrightUSA.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">OutrightUSA.org</a><br>Rational Review –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://RationalReview.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">RationalReview.com</a><br>Restore The 4th –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://RestoreThe4th.com" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">RestoreThe4th.com</a><br>The Seasteading Institute –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://Seasteading.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">Seasteading.org</a><br>Stop The Drug War –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://StopTheDrugWar.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">StopTheDrugWar.org</a><br>Stossel In The Classroom –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://StosselInTheClassroom.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">StosselInTheClassroom.org</a><br>Strike The Root –<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://StrikeTheRoot.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">StrikeTheRoot.org</a><br><br></b>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br> While our listing of libertarian-oriented groups active in the United States or worldwide will remain far from comprehensive with these additions, I believe adding the above groups and sites will showcase the scope and diversity of the freedom movement and help visitors to<a href="http://LP.org" style="color: rgb(5, 99, 193); text-decoration: underline; ">LP.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>explore the movement and increase their understanding of and support for libertarian ideas.<br><br> I expect that these groups and websites, especially the less-visited ones, will also appreciate the new traffic they get via our site, and be more favorably disposed toward the Libertarian Party as a result. But as with the article on Scranton Saves, that is not the main reason I believe we should do this. Expressing our solidarity with others in the libertarian movement is simply the right thing to do.<br><br>Love & Liberty,<br> ((( starchild )))<br>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee<br> (415) 625-FREE<br> @StarchildSF</span></div></div></div></div></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>