<div dir="ltr">I read that the Katz Effect makes cities cloudy. Do not believe the fake news coming from the pro-Katz camp.<div><br></div><div>Utah had a base for Johnson, and we can meet with a lot of Johnson supporters there as well. <br><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Joshua Katz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey, just because I'm here, doesn't mean that it's always grey and cloudy. That's just my personality, but it doesn't spread to the city.<div><br></div><div>Anyway, I'm fine with whereever, but I'd mention again that Crystal, Minnesota would be a nice choice. If there's a desire to do St. Louis, I can look into a free meeting room, and possibly renting rooms in my building in place of hotel rooms. We also have a pool and an in-house restaurant.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-974304869796218412gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:14 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would like to propose Salt Lake City for these various reasons (and we could do some of Starchild's ideas there):<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">The LNC has not been there since the 1993 convention. Joe and Cindy Buchman volunteered to </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">host a BBQ </span><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-aBn" style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-aQJ">Saturday</span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> night, as well as arrange for anyone staying until </span><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-aBn" style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-aQJ">Monday</span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> to drive north with them for the eclipse. Former LNC member Dan Karlan lives just a few miles south of the path of totality (in Idaho) and is willing to help with arrangements there too.</span></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">He could probably also get a training room they use available for the LNC to use for free - but then it's an issue of getting from hotels to there. So probably better to find a hotel nearer the airport with free meeting room- but that is another option.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">But most importantly - eclipse-wise - <span style="font-size:12.8px">the main reason is the attached photo. On the</span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> </span><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-aBn" style="font-size:12.8px"><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-aQJ">Monday</span></span><span style="font-size:12.8px"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8px">after the meeting you must (IMO of Joe Buchman) be under the path of totality. </span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">A full interactive map is here:</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><a href="http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2017_GoogleMapFull.html" target="_blank">http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site<wbr>_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2017<wbr>_GoogleMapFull.html</a><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">But the problem with say Kansas City or St. Louis (which are very near totality), is clouds.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">A cloudy day ruins an eclipse.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Finally in terms of party building, and fairness in moving meetings around, Salt Lake City and Utah are due.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br><span style="font-size:12.8px">Great airport. Great public transportation. Joe offered to help Robert find a perfect meeting location. etc.</span><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br><div class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_5919135007482665047gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-974304869796218412h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:33 AM, Starchild <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Do you know whether there is free meeting space available in either of these locations, Tim? A local activism tie-in? Locals who can provide crash space for people traveling to the meeting? I'd tend to look favorably at a location proposal that incorporates these elements.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>The eclipse itself represents an opportunity for Libertarian visibility, if we are agile enough and ready enough to think outside-the-box to take advantage of it. When I raised the issue of Jill Stein's effective championing of the election recount as an agenda item at our LNC meeting last weekend, this is a small example of the kind of news cycle event I was envisioning us having a mechanism for brainstorming around and acting upon. Anything that's predictably going to be in the news is something we can potentially use as a "teachable moment".</div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Naturally a total solar eclipse will be a big media story in the places where it will be readily observable, and being on the spot with some pointed but light-hearted political activism could easily get us coverage and interviews. Here's an idea for how we could do it:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>Have a presence at a popular viewing place for the event under the name of a made-up government agency, such as the "Bureau of Astronomical Licensing", bearing obviously satirical but official-looking licenses or permits (perhaps a few different varieties, e.g. one for children, one for a special exemption for not having protective eyewear, different fee schedules for various durations of viewing, etc.), and asking attendees deadpan whether they have the proper documents to be viewing the eclipse. </div><div><br></div><div> <span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>We'd have "permits" or "licenses" signed by party officials as whimsical souvenirs for those wishing to donate to the LP, and simultaneously hand out free literature talking about how government permit and licensing requirements destroy freedom and harm the economy. Print enough supplies to reasonably cover expected on-site demand, and sell the leftovers on <a href="http://LPStore.com" target="_blank">LPStore.com</a>. If we wanted to go the extra mile with it, order up special "officially approved" viewing glasses, which would feature completely blacked-out lenses (you couldn't see anything at all looking through them).</div><div><br></div><div><span class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span>If any of us were to be cited or arrested on-site for vending without the proper permits (naturally those not wishing to personally risk the ire of the authorities would not need to be directly involved in such activity), that would make the activism even more newsworthy and perfectly illustrate our point.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div> (415) 625-FREE</div><div> @StarchildSF</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Dec 14, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:</div><br class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:helveticaneue,"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800"><div id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481768811512_33654"><div style="color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255);font-family:helveticaneue,"helvetica neue",helvetica,arial,"lucida grande",sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481768811512_33653"><div id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481682251539_84306" dir="ltr">For the August meeting, I'd like for us to consider and get pricing for Kansas City, Nashville, and St. Louis. Those who want to can stay an extra day to experience the total solar eclipse on August 21. KCI and Nashville Airports are in the totality. Lambert is barely outside the path of totality.<br id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481682251539_84332"><br id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481682251539_84333"><div dir="ltr" id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481768811512_35518">Maps and information are available at <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.greatamericaneclipse.com/" class="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800" id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481682251539_84413" target="_blank">http://www.greatamericaneclips<wbr>e.com/</a> & <a href="http://www.americaneclipse2017.org/" id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481768811512_35521" target="_blank">http://www.americaneclipse2017<wbr>.org/</a>, and an interactive map is at <a href="http://xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/solar_eclipses/TSE_2017_GoogleMapFull.html" target="_blank">xjubier.free.fr/en/site_pages/<wbr>solar_eclipses/TSE_2017_Google<wbr>MapFull.html</a>. </div><br id="m_-974304869796218412m_-1731699512394640355m_840895476340507617gmail-m_4102309877958928811gmail-m_-5668865390042632355gmail-m_7371077067688980488m_1376815389713615210m_-8998605304831286424yiv5679750800yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1481682251539_84335">Tim Hagan<br></div></div></div></div></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listi<wbr>nfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br></blockquote></div><br></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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