<div dir="ltr">Exactly, Joshua had this item on the agenda, and I had full arguments prepared in opposition. To slip it in this way is very back door and I HIGHLY OBJECT.<div><br></div><div>-- <br><div class="gmail-m_5948564514123972657gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would re-iterate all of my prior concerns on number of members and lack of party experience. This is not what was presented, and I do not believe it is proper to get one thing passed and have it slip into another. If there is to be a "messaging" committee, ANY LNC member who wishes to be on it, should be on it. But that is not what was presented. No discussions on qualifications for any such thing were discussed etc. This is the LNC's job, and if THAT is the job of the Committee, I request a place.<div><br></div><div><span class="">-- <br><div class="m_6552233612049565780gmail-m_5948564514123972657gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><p class="m_6552233612049565780gmail-m_-6837537384619223338gmail-m_7969897451035349498gmail-p1" style="font-size:12.8px"><br></p></div></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Ken Moellman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lpky.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lpky.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:verdana,geneva,sans-serif">
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<div>I'd ask Mr. Somes to please clarify what he wants to do with this committee. We can then discuss what should/shouldn't be in there, and then vote accordingly, if necessary, to clarify and solidify the scope.</div>
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<div>I personally think empowering a committee to come up with recommendations regarding strategies and messaging would be good. And after hearing those recommendations, the LNC/APRC could adopt them, or not. </div><span>
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<div dir="ltr">The motion is as worded in the minutes but they were not empowered to produce such a report as you described. That is way beyond the scope and all of my prior objections would be even more amplified. Discussion is not a motion. What I posted above is what was passed, nothing more.<br>
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<div>I had thought the purpose of the committee was, broadly, to find out how we could boost our image through the modification of wording and phraseology. As part of that, they would solicit bids from political image consultants to determine a cost of having them given their recommendations. I remember that during discussion there was talk of not having to accept the bids, or only accepting portions of bids, and that some work could be possibly done internally. The LNC would still have to approve any spending in that regard. And in my mind, I assumed that any recommendations, whether from paid or unpaid sources, would have to be run through APRC or the entire LNC prior to implementation. </div>
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<div>I think clarification regarding the scope of this committee would be a good idea. I am personally in favor of a committee that works to fine-tune our messaging; that makes suggestions on using words and phrases that soothe, rather than scare, the public. These would be recommendations presented to the APRC and/or the LNC, and not implemented officially until approve is given from one or both of those. </div>
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<div>I have no doubt that <span>Messrs </span>Demerest, Sharpe, Somes have the very best intentions in mind, and I just want to be sure that everyone agrees to the scope NOW so there are no hurt feelings later.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">I also do not know where this committee name came from. This was not approved by the LNC, the Committee Name approved by the LNC was "Committee to Review 2016 Campaign"
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<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt17aco00">On behalf of Trent Somes, Mr. Hagan moved that the Libertarian National Committee establish a committee to take bids from political consultants for the task of extensively reviewing and making recommendations for the Libertarian Party's messaging (and modes of messaging), inclusion in the debates, fundraising and campaign finance, campaign mechanics, and state and local affiliates. Said agency will agree to present their findings to the public before December of 2017. The committee will take bids until the 10th of January.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt17aco00">And a subsequent Motion: </span><span style="font-family:tt17aco00;font-size:10pt">Ms. Mattson made a motion which, following amendment without objection, was to appoint the just-approved committee to be three people, comprised of Larry Sharpe, Trent Somes, and a third person of their choosing.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:tt17aco00"><strong>I must insist that we keep to what was actually voted on and approved.</strong> </span></p>
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<div dir="ltr">Good choice! But here I am with an objection already- Ken said "<span style="font-family:verdana,geneva,sans-serif;font-size:13.3333px">Good luck with that committee. I'm excited to have a formalized report on how to improve our branding and image without abandoning our principles. "</span>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,geneva,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:13.3333px"><strong>That is not what this committee was created to do. The committee was created to obtain bids and obtain bids only. That is it.</strong></span></span></div>
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<div>Good luck with that committee. I'm excited to have a formalized report on how to improve our branding and image without abandoning our principles. </div>
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<div>After careful consideration, Larry Sharpe and I have chosen David Demarest as the third member to our committee. He has graciously accepted the position and we are excited to get rolling.</div>
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<div>We will work hard to continue to keep the LNC updated on our progress.</div>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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