<div dir="ltr">I must insist that any attempt to post by #NeverBittner be heavily censored.<div><br></div><div>Sam</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein<div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div>Member at Large</div><div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div><div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div><div>317-850-0726 Phone</div><div>317-582-1773 Fax</div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">No worries Ken, now you know.:) I am one of the main FB volunteers and do a little bit of the page management (cat herding) while Matt Hasty is on some downtime.<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Brett Bittner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have to agree with Caryn Ann that out of ~4400 posts in the last 18 months, our "issue rate" was pretty darn impressive. Even if it were a dozen "problem posts," that's .3% (rounded up).<div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-4581020359479118540m_5442203006786050766gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small">Brett C. Bittner</div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small">Region 3 Representative </div><div style="font-size:small"><a href="http://lp.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">Libertarian National Committee</a></div><div style="font-size:small"><br></div><div style="font-size:small"><a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a></div><div style="font-size:small"><a href="tel:(317)%20643-2566" value="+13176432566" target="_blank">317.643.2566</a></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_-4581020359479118540h5">
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<p>Okay, so there's a process in place. I certainly understand that human error can happen. It sounds like this might be a rehash of an issue already addressed, then, and it sounds like it is all within APRC. So I'd only ask APRC to review their procedures, to see if they can come up with a way to improve their processes. And I'll leave it at that.</p><span>
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<div>I don't know who posted what ... All I see is that it was posted there. It wasn't meant to be personal.</div>
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<div>I did mention it because I wish to start a conversation about the FB page. There's a lot of conversation about the public image we put out from our website. It's legitimate discussion, and it should be had. We should always put our best foot forward, and have consistent branding and marketing.</div>
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<div>I think it would be worth considering the extension of similar policies over to the Facebook page. And really, it should extend to any place where any of us are speaking in our capacity as leaders in the party, and especially any place where we speak as the party itself. Maybe there should be a three-person gatekeeping process: before anything is posted, 2 other people review it for errors or omissions or whatever. </div>
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<div>I'm open to ideas, but I seem to recall there have been several incidents in the past that could have been completely avoided if we had a gatekeeping process.</div>
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<div>That was my post Ken. My mistake - it is in the Declaration. A tired mistake that is part of being human.</div>
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<div>That could have been posted by a Amy volunteer though. As a lead volunteer with the FB page can I ask that in the future this be addressed privately first?</div>
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