<div dir="ltr">Presumption and due process makes it the right move in my view, otherwise we could never say anything - all the government has to do is be a complete tyrant and it silences our voice. This is the reason I changed from abstain. And while there are other people similarly situated, I don't see a paralyzing obligation to speak for every single one in order to speak for any single one(s)- and particularly those engaged in libertarian activism, our own "family" as it were. And family must speak for family. With troubling lists here in the country including "libertarians" and "anti-government activists" as being red flags in and of itself, it is also self-interest for us to speak out. And not to go Godwin... but when they came for [insert any victim of the state - lack of due process makes a person a victim, even if they ultimate are found out to have done something, even the guilty deserve due process as a human right] I was silent, and when they came for me, there was no one left to speak - bad paraphrase but the principle holds.<div><br></div><div>- Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com" target="_blank">agmattson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I vote no.<br><br></div>The nature of the Cuban government makes it impossible for us to know whether or not what we're saying is accurate. It may well be true, but we just can't have a lot of confidence. The problem is not limited to just these two libertarian activists. It's a much broader problem of a communist dictatorship with secret courts, and many, many, many people in Cuba are victims of it, though there are also people there who do steal, murder, etc. We could probably just change the names and issue a whole lot of similar statements about other Cuban prisoners, and we'd be right about some and wrong about some.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-Alicia<br><br><div><br><br></div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Alicia Mattson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com" target="_blank">agmattson@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>We have an electronic mail <span class="m_-3857633782854431721m_6332357017062145964m_-3106942960241565296gmail-m_2797144110872258469gmail-m_7277579120155508541gmail-m_9149391285218628846gmail-il">ballot</span>.<br></div><br><b><u>Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by February 24, <span class="m_-3857633782854431721m_6332357017062145964m_-3106942960241565296gmail-m_2797144110872258469gmail-m_7277579120155508541gmail-m_9149391285218628846gmail-il">2017</span> at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.<br></u></b> <br><u>Co-Sponsors:</u> Starchild, Harlos, Demarest, Vohra<br>
<br><u>Motion:</u> The Libertarian National Committee condemns the unjust detention of libertarian activists Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel Velasquez by agents of the Castro regime in Cuba on February 2, and demands the immediate safe release of these political prisoners who were targeted for their peaceful activism promoting limited government and free markets. We further ask the U.S. government's State Department to place diplomatic pressure on the Castro regime for their release, and encourage Libertarian Party members and supporters to contact their elected officials toward that end. <br><span class="m_-3857633782854431721HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="m_-3857633782854431721HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-Alicia<br></font></span></div><br></div>
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