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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Since my name came up, I figured I would respond.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>If there is one thing we have no shortage of in this party, it is people who know philosophy. That’s especially true with people who want to serve on a Platform Committee. Where we <i>do</i> have a shortage is in people who will actually do work and who can turn an idea into a well-crafted written proposal stated in grammatically correct English.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>When I mentioned having applicants write a proposal about “green cheese” I wasn’t suggesting that we ask applicants to come up with a platform proposal on that particular topic. My main point was that I want to see them put forward a written proposal, any proposal. Of course, if they actually do submit a proposal on green cheese, I will likely conclude that the applicant is several fries short of a Happy Meal.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Aaron Starr<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(805) 583-3308 Home<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(805) 404-8693 Mobile<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>starrcpa@gmail.com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:26 PM<br><b>To:</b> Libertarian National Committee list<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Whitney, it might for the one item they propose but that is one item that might be minor and not really philosophically based. And as Aaron said during the meeting, the proposal could be about "green cheese" (I believe that was his example but if not exactly, it is similar) - it was to prove they could put a thought together.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A sample proposal itself is pretty limited and just because one proposal might be a bit "off" they still could have a good grasp but need some guidance on what is appropriate fodder for a platform.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Some people when in a productive group, as long as they have a foundation, can be focused as long as they have the principles.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>And this is precisely the discussion I wanted - thank you so much for your input.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- Caryn Ann<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Whitney I prefer my wording, but am open to a discussion. And yes I agree - optional - just like all of the other items. My original position was required, and then seeing the proposed application language, I compromised to "optional" in an attempt to work things out.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>What libertarianism means to someone can be different from what is relevant to the platform. That is what is wonderful about it - there is a lot of freedom in personal application.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <<a href="mailto:whitneycb76@gmail.com" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regardless of what transpired between the members involved so far, I could support the inclusion of an OPTIONAL item regarding the applicant's basic understanding of our Party's principles.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Could it could be as simple as "Briefly describe what libertarianism means to you...."?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Whitney <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 5, 2017 1:13 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fellow members<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Last LNC meeting we decided to solicit applications for the LNC appointed members of the Bylaws and Platform Committees and some discussion arose on what should be included in the application request. The final responsibility for getting a notice out and organizing responses lies with the Party Secretary but Nick directed that as far as content that we should work it out amongst ourselves. To that end I volunteered to work with Alicia. We have communicated but I am not satisfied that the result was working it out amongst ourselves. The result was that nothing was substantially changed from years past.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Arvin and I (and I believe at least Starchild and David concur) believe that a request for a brief understanding of Libertarian philosophy should be included. I softened that request to be in line with the way the form is currently written to be a "suggestion" (rather than a requirement) for such along with other suggestions that the applicant could choose among. This was rejected and I just don't think that is a reasonable way to work it out amongst ourselves. The result is no different than if I didn't volunteer input. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I would like other members to weigh in on this. I'm not trying to be difficult but I just don't think reasonable requests should be summarily rejected.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>