<div dir="ltr">One additional though on a proposal not being a broad summary - I know some alt-righters that if they wrote on one topic could sound thoroughly libertarian. But if you spoke about their guiding worldview, it definitely is not. (alt-right just used as an example because it is a hot topic - but the nature of libertarianism is that there are some common areas in isolation with many groups - but the broad scope is markedly different).<div><br></div><div>When we give these optional suggestions it helps the candidate know what kinds of things would be helpful, and it helps the committee have an insight into the candidate in what they choose to submit.</div><div><br></div><div>We have to make these decisions based on these applications in large part. Does anyone plan on calling and interviewing these folks? Wouldn't you want as much as possible and give them guidance on things to submit that would help us?</div><div><br></div><div>I would think so.</div><div><br></div><div>- Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Whitney, it might for the one item they propose but that is one item that might be minor and not really philosophically based. And as Aaron said during the meeting, the proposal could be about "green cheese" (I believe that was his example but if not exactly, it is similar) - it was to prove they could put a thought together.<div><br></div><div>A sample proposal itself is pretty limited and just because one proposal might be a bit "off" they still could have a good grasp but need some guidance on what is appropriate fodder for a platform.</div><div><br></div><div>Some people when in a productive group, as long as they have a foundation, can be focused as long as they have the principles.</div><div><br></div><div>And this is precisely the discussion I wanted - thank you so much for your input.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>- Caryn Ann</div></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Whitney I prefer my wording, but am open to a discussion. And yes I agree - optional - just like all of the other items. My original position was required, and then seeing the proposed application language, I compromised to "optional" in an attempt to work things out.<div><br></div><div>What libertarianism means to someone can be different from what is relevant to the platform. That is what is wonderful about it - there is a lot of freedom in personal application.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_3739278853342147326h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whitneycb76@gmail.com" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Regardless of what transpired between the members involved so far, I could support the inclusion of an OPTIONAL item regarding the applicant's basic understanding of our Party's principles.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Could it could be as simple as "Briefly describe what libertarianism means to you...."?</div><span class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whitney </div></font></span><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656h5">On Mar 5, 2017 1:13 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"></div></div><blockquote class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656h5"><div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg">Fellow members</div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"><br class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg">Last LNC meeting we decided to solicit applications for the LNC appointed members of the Bylaws and Platform Committees and some discussion arose on what should be included in the application request. The final responsibility for getting a notice out and organizing responses lies with the Party Secretary but Nick directed that as far as content that we should work it out amongst ourselves. To that end I volunteered to work with Alicia. We have communicated but I am not satisfied that the result was working it out amongst ourselves. The result was that nothing was substantially changed from years past.</div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"><br class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg">Arvin and I (and I believe at least Starchild and David concur) believe that a request for a brief understanding of Libertarian philosophy should be included. I softened that request to be in line with the way the form is currently written to be a "suggestion" (rather than a requirement) for such along with other suggestions that the applicant could choose among. This was rejected and I just don't think that is a reasonable way to work it out amongst ourselves. The result is no different than if I didn't volunteer input. </div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"><br class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_3739278853342147326m_6902546923681602041m_-7782516370237820656m_-8359404054180195940m_-6317558977493615451gmail_msg">I would like other members to weigh in on this. I'm not trying to be difficult but I just don't think reasonable requests should be summarily rejected.</div></div>
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