<div>Daniel did not pursue that and that is the only other suggestion - once floated - and dropped.  Daniel did not volunteer to continue the discussion.  I did and I think my POV is one of 4 members perhaps (certainly of Arvin and I)- enough to float a motion if I am correct but that shouldn't even be necessary.  </div><div><br></div><div>And yes they could.  They could write love  poems and green cheese proposals.  But as we have taken it upon ourselves to suggest things, the one thing that is absolutely directly relevant and a key point that some of us explicitly want to review, it is equipping the candidates to assist the LNC.</div><div><br></div><div>Again the resistance is baffling.  I never  dreamed my compromise reasonable request in email would blow up to such a controversy.</div><div><br></div><div>And one member should not have complete control over the very important wording of the application .</div><div><br></div><div>As the Chair directed, we need to work it out amongst ourselves which is more than just a unilateral decision.</div><div><br></div><div>I mean do we actually have to have a motion and vote?</div><div><br></div><div>I really hope not.  </div><div><br></div><div>My request is reasonable and relevant.  I really would like us to just get this out and move on to other work here and in our state parties.</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:33 PM Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com">agmattson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Tim, they DO have that option.  They can discuss anything they want to.<br class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div><div class="gmail_msg">-Alicia<br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_extra gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Tim Hagan <span class="gmail_msg"><<a href="mailto:timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">timhagan-tyr@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89368" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89986" class="gmail_msg">Is the cheeseburger in the Happy Meal made with green cheese?</span></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89666" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89642" class="gmail_msg"><span id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89988" class="gmail_msg">I would also support having an option for applicants </span><span id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89990" class="gmail_msg">for the Platform Committee</span><span id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89641" class="gmail_msg"> to discuss political philosophy. On the other hand, it's not a factor that I would consider for the Bylaws Committee.<br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89640" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89639" class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">Tim Hagan</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085qtdSeparateBR gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89367"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yahoo_quoted gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89376" style="display:block">  <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89375" class="gmail_msg"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;font-size:16px" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89374" class="gmail_msg"> <div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89373" class="gmail_msg"> <font id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89646" size="2" face="Arial" class="gmail_msg"> <hr id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89645" size="1" class="gmail_msg"> <b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-weight:bold" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b> Aaron Starr <<a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">starrcpa@gmail.com</a>><br class="gmail_msg"> <b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-weight:bold" class="gmail_msg">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a> <br class="gmail_msg"> <b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-weight:bold" class="gmail_msg">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:59 PM<div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212h5 gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"> <b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-weight:bold" class="gmail_msg">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application<br class="gmail_msg"> </div></div></font> </div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212h5 gmail_msg"> <div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085y_msg_container gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89377"><br class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89380" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525WordSection1 gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89379"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89560"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">Colleagues,</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89378"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89559"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91201" class="gmail_msg">Since my name came up, I figured I would respond.</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89672"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89382"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89381" class="gmail_msg">If there is one thing we have no shortage of in this party, it is people who know philosophy. That’s especially true with people who want to serve on a Platform Committee. Where we <i class="gmail_msg">do</i> have a shortage is in people who will actually do work and who can turn an idea into a well-crafted written proposal stated in grammatically correct English.</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89383"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89385"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89384" class="gmail_msg">When I mentioned having applicants write a proposal about “green cheese” I wasn’t suggesting that we ask applicants to come up with a platform proposal on that particular topic. My main point was that I want to see them put forward a written proposal, any proposal. Of course, if they actually do submit a proposal on green cheese, I will likely conclude that the applicant is several fries short of a Happy Meal.</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89561"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89563"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">Aaron Starr</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89818"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91202" class="gmail_msg"><a href="tel:(805)%20583-3308" value="+18055833308" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">(805) 583-3308</a> Home</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89675"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91203" class="gmail_msg"><a href="tel:(805)%20404-8693" value="+18054048693" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">(805) 404-8693</a> Mobile</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_90062"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91204" class="gmail_msg"><a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">starrcpa@gmail.com</a></span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91205"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525yqt3675361233 gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525yqt34458"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89676"><b id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91207" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:10.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91206" class="gmail_msg">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_91208" class="gmail_msg"> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b class="gmail_msg">On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Sent:</b> Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:26 PM<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">To:</b> Libertarian National Committee list<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg">Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application</span></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89567" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89707">Whitney, it might for the one item they propose but that is one item that might be minor and not really philosophically based.  And as Aaron said during the meeting, the proposal could be about "green cheese" (I believe that was his example but if not exactly, it is similar) - it was to prove they could put a thought together.</div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89867" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89866">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89619" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89618">A sample proposal itself is pretty limited and just because one proposal might be a bit "off" they still could have a good grasp but need some guidance on what is appropriate fodder for a platform.</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89739" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89738">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89632" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89631">Some people when in a productive group, as long as they have a foundation, can be focused as long as they have the principles.</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89630" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89629">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89628" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89627">And this is precisely the discussion I wanted - thank you so much for your input.</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89569" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89568">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89566" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89565">- Caryn Ann</div></div></div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89582" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525yqt3675361233 gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525yqt01016"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89626">  </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89581" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89622">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89580" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89625">Whitney I prefer my wording, but am open to a discussion. And yes I agree - optional - just like all of the other items.  My original position was required, and then seeing the proposed application language, I compromised to "optional" in an attempt to work things out.</div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89624" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89623">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89680" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89679">What libertarianism means to someone can be different from what is relevant to the platform.  That is what is wonderful about it - there is a lot of freedom in personal application.</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89579" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89578" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89577" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89678">  </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89576" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89677">On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:whitneycb76@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89575" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">Regardless of what transpired between the members involved so far, I could support the inclusion of an OPTIONAL item regarding the applicant's basic understanding of our Party's principles.</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89863" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89862">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89574" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89573">Could it could be as simple as "Briefly describe what libertarianism means to you...."?</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89821" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89820"><span style="color:#888888" class="gmail_msg">  </span></div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89824" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89823"><span style="color:#888888" class="gmail_msg">Whitney </span></div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89592" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89861">  </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89591" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89616">  </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89590" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89859" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89858" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89857">On Mar 5, 2017 1:13 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89589" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89588" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89587" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89586" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89831" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89830">Fellow members</div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89829" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89828">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89585" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89584">Last LNC meeting we decided to solicit applications for the LNC appointed members of the Bylaws and Platform Committees and some discussion arose on what should be included in the application request.  The final responsibility for getting a notice out and organizing responses lies with the Party Secretary but Nick directed that as far as content that we should work it out amongst ourselves.  To that end I volunteered to work with Alicia.  We have communicated but I am not satisfied that the result was working it out amongst ourselves. The result was that nothing was substantially changed from years past.</div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">Arvin and I (and I believe at least Starchild and David concur) believe that a request for a brief understanding of Libertarian philosophy should be included.  I softened that request to be in line with the way the form is currently written to be a "suggestion" (rather than a requirement)  for such along with other suggestions that the applicant could choose among.  This was rejected and I just don't think that is a reasonable way to work it out amongst ourselves.  The result is no different than if I didn't volunteer input. </div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div></div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89615" class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89614">I would like other members to weigh in on this.  I'm not trying to be difficult but I just don't think reasonable requests should be summarily rejected.</div></div></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div></div></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89595">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg">Lnc-business mailing list<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></div></blockquote></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div></div></div></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89613"><br clear="none" class="gmail_msg">_______________________________________________<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg">Lnc-business mailing list<br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></div></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg"><br clear="none" class="gmail_msg"><br clear="all" class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg">  </div></div></div></div><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg" id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89826">-- </div><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89608" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89607" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89606" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89605" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89604" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89603" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89602" class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1488729278845_89601" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:13.5pt" class="gmail_msg">In Liberty,</span></b></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg"><b class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:13.5pt" class="gmail_msg">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_2956304633796593085yiv5258748525MsoNormal gmail_msg"><span style="font-size:7.5pt" class="gmail_msg">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt" class="gmail_msg">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="m_-6842636772683702212m_295630463379659308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