<div dir="ltr">Before venturing an opinion on the two proposals before us, I would ask to see what the committee has planned for the $5,000 budgeted already.  I will say that I am concerned, especially given past experience, when the cost of a project doubles within a few weeks.  At the same time, I am not quite clear on why we need to increase the budget by $5,000 at this point when the proposal will cost $5,000 and nothing has been spent, so before doing so, I want to know what the original money is designated for.  <div><br></div><div>I do appreciate, at the same time, that there is an effort to fundraise specifically for this project.  In my view, the cost, even if completely crowd-funded, will still be non-zero because of fungibility, but obviously will be low.  Since our budget does not fund compensation out of functional lines, there's also an unaccounted-for decrease in staff costs associated with doing it this way instead of continuing the project but not moving the items.  Wes, do you have guess on that - less, equal to, or more than $5k?  </div><div><br></div><div>Even when things are crowd-funded, of course, it is the responsibility of this board to set priorities for projects that should get done, especially when staff time is required.  We voted that this is something worth doing at a cost of $5k plus stuff costs.  Is it also worth doing at $10k plus staff costs?  That seems to be, in large part, the question, I would think.  </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Sam Goldstein <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com" target="_blank">goldsteinatlarge@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would like to amend the motion to designate the Harlos residence as the David Nolan Memorial Library, Museum and <div>Cannabis Cafe.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Sam</div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_2456047272758373707gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein<div>Libertarian National Committee</div><div>Member at Large</div><div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div><div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div><div><a href="tel:(317)%20850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone</div><div><a href="tel:(317)%20582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax</div></div></div></div>
<br></span><div><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Also, I stated that if approved, I would sign up for a payment plan life membership.  I am willing to do that because it will cost me personally that much to make several trips at my own cost to VA to do supervise and organize the off site storage.  The Party will get back records usable for years and years to come and they will be available for Party members. A lot of other benefits were discussed in the other thread.  If I am right about this being high by about $1000 (Dunbar can stay at my home in CO), and then my pledge to give $1,500 over 12 months, we are looking at $2,500 (if I'm wrong it is $3,500).  Wes believes he can raise it (and if we raise more it can offset the other approved amount for which I personally have already raised about $1,200 and once LPedia is up I will get more).  Lastly I believe the CO storage will be about 15% per month cheaper. All around this is a good deal for the party if it wants to takes its history and records seriously (and I cannot underestimate the good will there will be with members when these records are online).<div><br></div><div>As most of you know, I am a professional paralegal.  I have worked large large document intensive cases. The Committee I appointed are professionals. The amount of volunteer value that the Party is getting is tremendous - we couldn't afford it if we were to pay the people working on this.  Now is the time, and ultimately, I believe it will all be funded through donations by end of year.</div><div><br></div><div>Members are passionate about this.  I have been quiet on the fund raising push because I want to have LPedia open first with some great content (and its getting there- initial "grand opening" will likely be within two weeks).</div><span class="m_2456047272758373707HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></font></span></div><div class="m_2456047272758373707HOEnZb"><div class="m_2456047272758373707h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Wes Benedict <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>My first thought along the process was "gee, Caryn Ann, I sure
      wish you lived in the DC area. All this would be so much easier.
      Then you could come in the office and take care of all of this
      yourself, and manage the volunteers." Then later I thought "you
      know what, I just moved most of these materials (some of them
      twice). I could easily move them again to where Caryn Ann is."
      Then she and I wouldn't have to call and send several emails to
      each other for each minor step of work on this. <br>
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    <p>Sure they'll be an added moving cost, but the simplification of
      doing the work for Caryn Ann and me will be greatly facilitated.<br>
    </p><span>
    <pre class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
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    </span><div><div class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933h5"><div class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2017 1:33 PM, Wes Benedict
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      <p>The original idea to move the stuff to Colorado was mine.</p>
      <p>I got the idea after several phone calls with Caryn Ann talking
        about how to get various volunteers into the office, talking
        about what would they do, who would answer their questions, then
        who would pack up what and ship to where as needed. We've had
        one volunteer come in to start listing what's in our basement
        and that one arrangement, as simple as it sounds, took many
        emails and a couple phone calls. "Would we be here Saturday for
        the volunteer?" Answer: "probably from "10 a.m. to 3 p.m."
        Later: "Looks like I can have another staffer here later on
        Saturday if needed." Later: "Oops, not coming in after all."</p>
      <p>Coordinating the work of semi-reliable volunteers between Caryn
        Ann Harlos and me is going to take a significant amount of my
        time even in the best of circumstances.</p>
      <p>Most of the volunteer help for this project is going to come
        from Caryn Ann, and many volunteers she'll be able to recruit in
        her state and nearby states.<br>
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      <p>It sounds counter-intuitive on one level, but I think it will
        cost a whole lot less, and save me a whole lot of time, to
        deliver the items to Colorado for a couple years for Caryn Ann
        to work on. <br>
      </p>
      <p>It's my idea. I think Caryn Ann is going to work hard on this
        valuable project. I think I could raise the funds with a couple
        emails to cover the added cost. And I'd be saving myself a lot
        of time in the future coordinating with Caryn Ann about who can
        volunteer when and where, and where do we ship what, and how do
        we label what folders what.</p>
      <p>I'm only for this because Caryn Ann has already demonstrated
        her reliability and hard work. I would not be for this if just
        any old committee chair asked for it. I'd be paranoid the
        materials would be forgotten forever. <br>
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      <pre class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:(202)%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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        <div dir="ltr">Why on earth would we want to pay to move this
          stuff to CO when the party headquarters
          <div>is in the D.C. area?  Are you planning a David Nolan
            Libertarian Party Library and Museum?</div>
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                <div dir="ltr">Sam Goldstein
                  <div>Libertarian National Committee</div>
                  <div>Member at Large</div>
                  <div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div>
                  <div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:04 PM,
              Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Okay now that we have discussed the moving of the
                    historical records, I am ready to put forth a
                    proposed motion but am asking for feedback before
                    asking for co-sponsors.  </div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>Move to budget up to an additional $5,000 (budget
                    line 90) to relocate the historical records in the
                    Duke Street basement and in the off-site storage
                    facility to a location in Colorado to be determined
                    by Historical Preservation Committee Chair.  The
                    facility will be paid by for and under the control
                    of the LNC and will be obtained at a cost equal or
                    less to the price paid for the similar facility in
                    Virginia.  The Executive Director will be directed
                    to send out up to two fundraising letters to cover
                    this expense and the prior budgeted Historical
                    Committee expense (credit to budget line 25).  </div>
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                                          <div><font face="arial,
                                              helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>In
                                                Liberty,</b></font></div>
                                          <div><font face="arial,
                                              helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666" size="4"><b>Caryn
                                                Ann Harlos</b></font></div>
                                          <div><font size="1">Region 1
                                              Representative,
                                              Libertarian National
                                              Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska,
                                              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                              Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                              Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.
                                                Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications
                                              Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado
                                              State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian
                                                Party Radical Caucus</a> </span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small">Chair,
                                              LP Historical Preservation
                                              Committee</span></div>
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                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small">A
                                              haiku to the Statement of
                                              Principles:</span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>We
                                                defend your rights</i></span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>And
                                                oppose the use of force</i></span></div>
                                          <div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>Taxation
                                                is theft</i></span></div>
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