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<p>Joshua, <br>
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<p>As executive director, I'm tasked with raising revenue for the
party, whether by raising the funds myself, or delegating, or a
combination. <br>
</p>
<p>The 2017 Budgeted revenue is $1,374,200. Divide that by 52x5=260
business days and that's $5,285 per business day.</p>
<p>I definitely spent over an hour just working to have one
volunteer come to LPHQ and volunteer for about 8 hours. That
volunteer did a fine job, but I had to confirm with her when she
could arrive, exchange pleasantries, chat a bit about things (to
not would be rude treatment of guests IMHO), talk to Caryn Ann a
bit about all that, receive some office supplies and point them
out to the volunteer, etc.</p>
<p>Estimating the time saved, and the value of the opportunity costs
saved, involves very rough estimates. I think the time I save will
be worth the cost of moving the stuff. I think I'll save a couple
weeks of my time and Caryn Ann will make 3 times faster progress
by getting this stuff close to her.<br>
</p>
<p>I'm not wanting to fight too hard for this. It's what I think we
should do, but it's not the most important thing in the world. <br>
</p>
<p>Giving me control to make sure LP.org is working properly is an
example of something that was the most important thing in the
world, and that is something I did fight hard for and you all
supported me on it and LP.org has worked much better since then. <br>
</p>
<p>Moving the stuff to Colorado, is the right thing to do I think,
but I can live without it.<br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/21/2017 3:38 PM, Joshua Katz
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Before venturing an opinion on the two proposals
before us, I would ask to see what the committee has planned for
the $5,000 budgeted already. I will say that I am concerned,
especially given past experience, when the cost of a project
doubles within a few weeks. At the same time, I am not quite
clear on why we need to increase the budget by $5,000 at this
point when the proposal will cost $5,000 and nothing has been
spent, so before doing so, I want to know what the original
money is designated for.
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<div>I do appreciate, at the same time, that there is an effort
to fundraise specifically for this project. In my view, the
cost, even if completely crowd-funded, will still be non-zero
because of fungibility, but obviously will be low. Since our
budget does not fund compensation out of functional lines,
there's also an unaccounted-for decrease in staff costs
associated with doing it this way instead of continuing the
project but not moving the items. Wes, do you have guess on
that - less, equal to, or more than $5k? </div>
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<div>Even when things are crowd-funded, of course, it is the
responsibility of this board to set priorities for projects
that should get done, especially when staff time is required.
We voted that this is something worth doing at a cost of $5k
plus stuff costs. Is it also worth doing at $10k plus staff
costs? That seems to be, in large part, the question, I would
think. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Sam
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<div dir="ltr">I would like to amend the motion to designate
the Harlos residence as the David Nolan Memorial Library,
Museum and
<div>Cannabis Cafe.</div>
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<div>Member at Large</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:53
PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com"
target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Also, I stated that if approved, I
would sign up for a payment plan life
membership. I am willing to do that because it
will cost me personally that much to make
several trips at my own cost to VA to do
supervise and organize the off site storage.
The Party will get back records usable for years
and years to come and they will be available for
Party members. A lot of other benefits were
discussed in the other thread. If I am right
about this being high by about $1000 (Dunbar can
stay at my home in CO), and then my pledge to
give $1,500 over 12 months, we are looking at
$2,500 (if I'm wrong it is $3,500). Wes
believes he can raise it (and if we raise more
it can offset the other approved amount for
which I personally have already raised about
$1,200 and once LPedia is up I will get more).
Lastly I believe the CO storage will be about
15% per month cheaper. All around this is a good
deal for the party if it wants to takes its
history and records seriously (and I cannot
underestimate the good will there will be with
members when these records are online).
<div><br>
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<div>As most of you know, I am a professional
paralegal. I have worked large large document
intensive cases. The Committee I appointed are
professionals. The amount of volunteer value
that the Party is getting is tremendous - we
couldn't afford it if we were to pay the
people working on this. Now is the time, and
ultimately, I believe it will all be funded
through donations by end of year.</div>
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<div>Members are passionate about this. I have
been quiet on the fund raising push because I
want to have LPedia open first with some great
content (and its getting there- initial "grand
opening" will likely be within two weeks).</div>
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2017 at 11:39 AM, Wes Benedict <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org"
target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
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<p>My first thought along the process
was "gee, Caryn Ann, I sure wish you
lived in the DC area. All this would
be so much easier. Then you could
come in the office and take care of
all of this yourself, and manage the
volunteers." Then later I thought
"you know what, I just moved most of
these materials (some of them
twice). I could easily move them
again to where Caryn Ann is." Then
she and I wouldn't have to call and
send several emails to each other
for each minor step of work on this.
<br>
</p>
<p>Sure they'll be an added moving
cost, but the simplification of
doing the work for Caryn Ann and me
will be greatly facilitated.<br>
</p>
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<pre class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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3/21/2017 1:33 PM, Wes Benedict
wrote:<br>
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<p>The original idea to move the
stuff to Colorado was mine.</p>
<p>I got the idea after several
phone calls with Caryn Ann
talking about how to get
various volunteers into the
office, talking about what
would they do, who would
answer their questions, then
who would pack up what and
ship to where as needed. We've
had one volunteer come in to
start listing what's in our
basement and that one
arrangement, as simple as it
sounds, took many emails and a
couple phone calls. "Would we
be here Saturday for the
volunteer?" Answer: "probably
from "10 a.m. to 3 p.m."
Later: "Looks like I can have
another staffer here later on
Saturday if needed." Later:
"Oops, not coming in after
all."</p>
<p>Coordinating the work of
semi-reliable volunteers
between Caryn Ann Harlos and
me is going to take a
significant amount of my time
even in the best of
circumstances.</p>
<p>Most of the volunteer help
for this project is going to
come from Caryn Ann, and many
volunteers she'll be able to
recruit in her state and
nearby states.<br>
</p>
<p>It sounds counter-intuitive
on one level, but I think it
will cost a whole lot less,
and save me a whole lot of
time, to deliver the items to
Colorado for a couple years
for Caryn Ann to work on. <br>
</p>
<p>It's my idea. I think Caryn
Ann is going to work hard on
this valuable project. I think
I could raise the funds with a
couple emails to cover the
added cost. And I'd be saving
myself a lot of time in the
future coordinating with Caryn
Ann about who can volunteer
when and where, and where do
we ship what, and how do we
label what folders what.</p>
<p>I'm only for this because
Caryn Ann has already
demonstrated her reliability
and hard work. I would not be
for this if just any old
committee chair asked for it.
I'd be paranoid the materials
would be forgotten forever. <br>
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<pre class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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class="m_2456047272758373707m_7555143327463336933m_4015736148148719519moz-cite-prefix">On
3/21/2017 1:13 PM, Sam
Goldstein wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Why on earth
would we want to pay to move
this stuff to CO when the
party headquarters
<div>is in the D.C. area?
Are you planning a David
Nolan Libertarian Party
Library and Museum?</div>
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Goldstein
<div>Libertarian
National Committee</div>
<div>Member at Large</div>
<div>8925 N Meridian
St, Ste 101</div>
<div>Indianapolis IN
46260</div>
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Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at
1:04 PM, Caryn Ann
Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com"
target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>Okay now that
we have discussed
the moving of the
historical
records, I am
ready to put forth
a proposed motion
but am asking for
feedback before
asking for
co-sponsors. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Move to budget
up to an
additional $5,000
(budget line 90)
to relocate the
historical records
in the Duke Street
basement and in
the off-site
storage facility
to a location in
Colorado to be
determined by
Historical
Preservation
Committee Chair.
The facility will
be paid by for and
under the control
of the LNC and
will be obtained
at a cost equal or
less to the price
paid for the
similar facility
in Virginia. The
Executive Director
will be directed
to send out up to
two fundraising
letters to cover
this expense and
the prior budgeted
Historical
Committee expense
(credit to budget
line 25). </div>
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