<div dir="ltr"><div>Alicia,</div><div><br></div><div>The issue of common carrier versus U-Haul is something I discussed with Wes. In order to pack things up so that it can be transported would take staff time. And Wes wants to send the shelving, and just send things "as is" and let me straighten it up. With the U-Haul it can just be put in and sent with no re-packing needed.</div><div><br></div><div>As far as whether or not everything can be organized and scanned before the end of next term, there are several issues there. First, the committee itself. While this committee ends at that time, it is my intention to prove its value, have a good working model, and move for a permanent historical committee next year. In any event, LPedia must be maintained, and I expect the LNC will appoint a new committee- and if I am not on the LNC, I will apply to be on the committee. Even if not, I will continue my volunteer work. I think Starchild covered this well. As far as goals, I am very sober-minded as to our goals. I absolutely do not expect (nor is there budget for, though I am doing pretty well at finding no-cost volunteers) the entire archives to be scanned by the end of this term. I do realistically expect it to be organized and inventoried and the most critical items uploaded. And with the organization, the next committee will be able to continue to prioritize until it is done. Without the organization, I cannot wisely spend the initial budget on the most critical and most general interest items. While I might be in rapturous delight over a handwritten note by Gary Nolan on the back of a memo, our membership is more interested in news items. training items, press releases, and minutes. I am prioritizing to the needs and wants of our members. And as Daniel and Wes said, there is a lot of duplicates and items that do not need to be saved. I will be able to make culling recommendations to the LNC and to Wes and to carry those out.</div><div><br></div><div>I expect these records will remain here for at least a few years. And I have a volunteer that drives cross country often, and I might be able to find someone to bring them back at little to no cost - the volume will be less in any event, even if we have to pay. And they could come back by common carrier as I will be able to have the volunteers to re-pack as necessary.</div><div><br></div><div>I went quickly through a representative portion of the offsite storage. Everything I saw were items to be saved (in general, most certainly there is redundancy and culling and curating to do). It is interesting you mention the "so and so's desk" boxes... that is part of the problem. Who is ever going to go through that stuff? Wes thinks there might be minutes and other important items there, if not, I will straighten it out and solve that problem. And when I say "I" I don't mean I am super woman to do it all myself, but with a home base in CO, the birthplace, of the Party, and my volunteer connections in neighboring states, I can manage this properly, as a Chair should. </div><div><br></div><div>In any event, it will be cheaper to come back after several years, in great shape with professional organization and of use to the Party and its members.</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I have a bunch of commentary to add that I will take one at a time.<div><br></div><div>Daniel, that is exactly what I was thinking. I think this Committee may find some auction items and may be able to put together a nice historical interest display, and you might want to consider having one of us speak.</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Hayes <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Us finally throwing away a bunch of sacred invoices and other magical papers and stuff we don't need was my motivation to sponsor . It might take 5 years to recoup but it is money we can save.</div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature">Also, keep in mind that if we can monetize some of this stuff, even better. As Sam and a couple of others know, we are looking to hold a silent auction at convention in NOLA. Caryn Ann may find some things that we don't want to throw away but don't have space to display that a member might have interest in. I'd rather see us put some cash to the use this party exists for and allow a member to have some enjoyment instead of sticking it in a box on a shelf. One person's junk is another person's treasure.</div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature">Daniel Hayes</div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature">LNC At Large Member</div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature"> </div><div id="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178AppleMailSignature"><br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><div class="m_2200379862153319391h5"><div><br>On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
<p>Actually, if Caryn Ann does a good enough job, we should no
longer need an off-site storage unit. The unit we're in now just
went up to $248 per month starting in March 2018 (up about $20
from February).</p>
<p>William Redpath, can you calculate the Prevent Value of the
saving of $248 per month in perpetuity? <br>
</p>
<p>And if you can do that, can you then get a bit more precise by
making the assumption the $248 per month spending won't stop for 2
years?<br>
</p>
<p>Thanks Bill, that'd be great.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<pre class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<a href="tel:(202)%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
<div class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-cite-prefix">On 3/24/2017 11:43 AM, Wes Benedict
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">Around 300 boxes with the miscellaneous "slips of
paper" have been shredded since 2013. I spent many days on that
work myself doing a first and second pass through the mountain of
junk in the cool, damp, rat-infested dungeon storage underneath
the Watergate complex, and then doing 3rd and 4th passes at our
storage units after moving the stuff to Alexandria. (I did not
shred the stuff myself--just identified the boxes and then had a
professional service handle it).
<br>
<br>
I am not exaggerating about the rats. I do not recall finding dead
rats in any boxes and did not necessarily see rats inside our
particular unit, but there were dead dried out rat carcasses less
than 20 feet outside the door to our unit and in the hallway
leading up to our unit and inside adjacent units.
<br>
<br>
In addition to things that have been shredded, I did not count the
number of boxes of stuff that I threw away that did not need to be
shredded. I also personally tore apart, dismantled, and sawed when
necessary (with my personal Bosch circular saws and drill), large
painted plywood structures that I think were used in the 2000 and
2004 national conventions (along with the wooden pallets).
<br>
<br>
For a decade, it seemed, no one was willing to throw things away.
I can't blame them. Who wants to throw something away when someone
might complain later? Plus, it's easier to just box up an old
employees stuff and push it aside rather than go through it and
sort it all out. The result was valuable things were getting
buried by old broken furniture and useless pieces of returned mail
slips that had no value. Boxes of potentially valuable documents
were getting crushed and split and were spilling in the damp
basement of the Watergate. The basement of the Watergate obviously
wasn't climate controlled and the storage facilities were down an
underground hallway from the dumpsters for CVS and the grocery
store Safeway, and just 200 yard crawl for rats from the shores of
the Potomac. Grocery stores generate a lot of smelly garbage that
attracts rats.
<br>
<br>
For the most part, I did not go through many individual boxes and
sort through individual pieces of stuff. I either kept the whole
box, or through the whole box out (or shredded if necessary).
<br>
<br>
We still have over a dozen 4-drawer file cabinets and maybe 100
boxes of stuff that needs to be gone through more carefully. That
takes a lot of time. When it's time to bring the stuff back from
Colorado, I expect the content to be 15% of it's original size.
That's because there is still stuff to throw away, and also, for
things like fundraising letters that were sent in 1992--there are
probably 5 or 10 copies of each.
<br>
<br>
That stuff is getting older every day, but at least we now have it
stored in a climate controlled storage unit in Alexandria, instead
of the basement of the Watergate.
<br>
<br>
I probably inadvertently threw some things out that we wished I
hadn't, but I feel like my actions to jettison some garbage even
if there was some collateral damage, was urgent, and necessary for
the greater good of the documents that were saved, and because we
needed space for our more recent documents.
<br>
<br>
A few photos attached.
<br>
<br>
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
<br>
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
<br>
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
<br>
<a href="tel:(202)%20333-0008" value="+12023330008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<br>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
<br>
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a>
<br>
<br>
On 3/24/2017 4:43 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Having spent some time digging through
these materials a few years ago, I know there are a LOT of boxes
of old membership forms with hand-written signatures on the
membership certification. I don't imagine those going online
for the world to see, so why ship 50 boxes to Colorado and back?
<br>
<br>
I don't recall a terribly high percentage of those files being
things that are of historical value that would belong in an
online archive. Some of it was, but much was not. Old invoices
and vendor contracts. Miscellaneous contents of the desk
drawers of former employees. Is there really enough historical
material to fill a UHaul?
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<fieldset class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
<br>
<pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________
Lnc-business mailing list
<a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>
<a class="m_2200379862153319391m_-6601872194770987178moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listi<wbr>nfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span><br><span>Lnc-business mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listi<wbr>nfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></span><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
Lnc-business mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listi<wbr>nfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div></div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br><div class="m_2200379862153319391gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>We defend your rights</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>And oppose the use of force</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>Taxation is theft</i></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</font></span></div>
</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a> </span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>We defend your rights</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>And oppose the use of force</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>Taxation is theft</i></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
</div>