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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070C0;background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua'>Nick</span></u><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>, <u><span style='background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua'>Alicia</span></u>:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To Tim’s point, the election is a mere 16 days away. If we start the email ballot tonight, the full 10-day email ballot process would leave only 6 days left before the election. Would that be sufficient for Mr. Wickes to take full advantage of our $5,000? Or should we consider either Johnny/Jill-on-the-spot with all our votes or taking action immediately after the required number of Yes votes has been received?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua'>Joshua</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>, <u><span style='background:aqua;mso-highlight:aqua'>Aaron</span></u>: What guidance does RONR provide on the latter question?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Assuming all 17 votes would be cast, what would be the number of Yes votes required to pass this motion?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I will be voting Yes on this motion as soon as it is opened for voting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"'>~David<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dec 28-Jan 1 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>~David Pratt Demarest<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cell: 402-981-6469<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Home: 402-493-0873<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 09, 2017 9:42 PM<br><b>To:</b> lnc-business@hq.lp.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Request for assistance from Mark Wicks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick would that be the language?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 8:19 PM Nicholas Sarwark <<a href="mailto:chair@lp.org">chair@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal>I will sponsor a motion for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to the Mark<br>Wicks for Congress campaign.<br><br>Our counsel and many others worked very hard to make sure Mr. Wicks<br>could be in the televised debate (that he did very well in), I think<br>it would be good to follow through and this is a very reasonable<br>request after the candidate (a) raised a similar amount of money and<br>(b) put in a similar amount of money on his own.<br><br>-Nick<br><br>On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> I will get the appropriate links and commentary about the debate from Mr.<br>> Wicks.<br>><br>> -Caryn Ann<br>><br>> So we have myself and Joshua willing to co-sponsor a motion for $5,000. We<br>> would need two more.<br>><br>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Joshua Katz <<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>><br>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> I take that to mean that there is no ballot access retention based on this<br>>> race. It might be true that better voter numbers than we have ever seen<br>>> before makes a difference for us, perhaps even a national-scale difference<br>>> (which is what it takes, short of ballot access, in my eyes, to invest<br>>> national money). What I'm less sure of, though, is that investing money<br>>> into this campaign will achieve that. Is the debate video available<br>>> somewhere, or commentary saying he won the debate? That makes a difference,<br>>> and I can certainly see the value of $5,000 to amplify that if it is<br>>> credible and exists.<br>>><br>>> I also note that, while it's a 3-way race, the Democrat doesn't strike me<br>>> as particularly serious, which could be an opportunity. I don't think<br>>> either of those candidates has been able to demonstrate that they care, and<br>>> if Wicks can do that, if he had debate moments like Bill Clinton's answer on<br>>> the national debt in that town hall debate, and we can make an ad with a 5<br>>> second clip like that, I'm sold.<br>>><br>>> I'm less excited about the fact that this is an at-large Congressional<br>>> seat. Yes, online ads have the greatest reach, but don't across to most as<br>>> being as credible, and there's no other real way for him, with his budget,<br>>> to reach across the state.<br>>><br>>> He is right that $5,000 is a small amount to invest. I don't like<br>>> investing small amounts. As I argued at the last meeting about the<br>>> consultants, people tell you what they are worth. Someone pricing<br>>> themselves well below market is telling you something. Wicks is not pricing<br>>> himself low, but I'm not convinced that $5,000 can do anything for him. It<br>>> can get him an online ad, but I'm not sure it can get enough impressions to<br>>> get people talking. So let me ask against - what is the maximum we can<br>>> give? Also, if we gave more than $5,000, does he have the campaign<br>>> infrastructure to use it effectively? I'm more interested in spending money<br>>> where it can do good than in minimizing the money spent in a given place.<br>>><br>>> I like that the ask is for less than he's raised. I'm less thrilled that,<br>>> with the full ask, he'd have $11,600 for a statewide Congressional race.<br>>> I'm not concerned about that because it's not enough to win - I'm concerned<br>>> about that because I don't know that it's enough to be heard outside of a<br>>> small echo chamber.<br>>><br>>> He has a very nice website. It looks good, it draws you in, it's fairly<br>>> interactive, and it focuses on applying our ideas in ways that matter to<br>>> Montanans. On the other hand, with $6k raised, he didn't use a professional<br>>> photographer, I think, for his photos. He looks much better in his tv shots<br>>> than in his own pictures.<br>>><br>>> Bernie Sanders is campaigning for the Democrat (like I said, not serious)<br>>> while Trump and Pence are both campaigning for the Republican. The<br>>> Republicans, between party and PACs, are spending $1,600,000. Democrats are<br>>> spending somewhere in the 6 digits. I don't think $11,600 is enough to have<br>>> a voice, but $20,000 might be, if used correctly. This is a unique<br>>> opportunity and a strong race. We've already put national firepower into<br>>> getting him into the debate. I would like to see us give more, and<br>>> accompany it with a national staffer acting as campaign adviser to improve a<br>>> few of the nuts and bolts and making sure the amplification works out well.<br>>> In the meantime, I will cosponsor a motion to give $5,000. I will not<br>>> cosponsor a motion to give $2,500.<br>>><br>>> On the bigger picture: I agree that we need a better structure than having<br>>> this board make such decisions on the basis of limited information, without<br>>> much time to research. I had wanted to come up with such a structure, but<br>>> life has gotten in the way, both for me and for the LNC. I also acknowledge<br>>> that our budget is in a deficit - but our budget does include a line for<br>>> candidates and campaigns, and only half of that line has been allocated, so<br>>> we've already put aside money for this (in a sense). Furthermore, our cash<br>>> position is entirely the result of our own decisions. I don't think we can<br>>> make ourselves cash-poor, write a budget that shows a deficit (which I<br>>> didn't vote for, for that reason among others), and then use that as a<br>>> reason that we cannot help our candidates who can, in fact, make a<br>>> difference and help grow this party - growth that will, hopefully, close<br>>> that gap next year. Last year, we took in quite a bit more than we budgeted<br>>> for - in large part based on the attention our national ticket was getting,<br>>> and in large part because, I think, people wanted us to support key races.<br>>> Is this a key race? I think it is, given the timing, the lack of a serious<br>>> Democrat, the spending imbalance between the Rs and Ds, and so on, but<br>>> that's for each of us to decide. Our candidate has also not just gotten<br>>> into a debate, but shown that he knows what he's doing once there, and in<br>>> the process gotten himself useful soundbites for an ad campaign (I'm<br>>> assuming affirmative answers to my questions above).<br>>><br>>> Joshua A. Katz<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 4:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>> <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>>>> Mark Wicks provided these responses and apologized that he is not as<br>>>> eloquent as possible as he was calling from the campaign trail:<br>>>><br>>>> "I think this is being looked at the wrong way. Both parties are looking<br>>>> for a win to prove their agenda is supported by the American people. We need<br>>>> to show that both parties are being rejected. A win cements that but we also<br>>>> win with better voter numbers than we have ever seen before. It gives<br>>>> legitimacy, and that helps all of us. It sets me up for 2018 and other<br>>>> candidates as well. We can't raise money without some measure of success.<br>>>> $5000 is a small investment into a campaign that will pay dividends for all<br>>>> candidates. We won a battle getting into the debate, I won the debate, now<br>>>> we are positioning pieces for the next war and trying to inflict as much<br>>>> damage as possible in this one."<br>>>><br>>>> -Caryn Ann<br>>>><br>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 6:08 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>>> <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>><br>>>>> Alicia, yes, and running strong campaigns.<br>>>>><br>>>>> -Caryn Ann<br>>>>><br>>>>> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 1:36 AM, Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com" target="_blank">agmattson@gmail.com</a>><br>>>>> wrote:<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> Also, is this looking to be a 3-way race with both the Democrats and<br>>>>>> Republicans running candidates?<br>>>>>><br>>>>>> -Alicia<br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> On behalf of Montana candidate Mark Wicks running for the vacated seat<br>>>>>>> by the appointment of Zinke, he is requesting the LNC assist his campaign<br>>>>>>> financially.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> I had let him know specific information we would need, and would like<br>>>>>>> to share that information:<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> I know you asked for a budget for how I will spend the money and with<br>>>>>>> time constraints and getting the word out online media seems to be the way<br>>>>>>> to go. We have ads that are being readied and ready to go anytime. Flathead<br>>>>>>> county is having a Liberty Bash combined with a send the work truck event.<br>>>>>>> We can get a live remote and good online adds for $2500. That will cover the<br>>>>>>> valley really well. The east side of the state is taken care of and all the<br>>>>>>> big towns are covered except Great Falls. I can use as much as the LP can<br>>>>>>> send, but I think $5000 would make a good impact. We have received $3600,<br>>>>>>> plus I have put in about $3000 total. I can't give any measure of impact.<br>>>>>>> People are really searching for a third choice so even minimal presentation<br>>>>>>> will go a long ways.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> If any LNC member is interested in co-sponsoring a motion to assist in<br>>>>>>> any amount please let me know so we can craft.<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> --<br>>>>>>> In Liberty,<br>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>>>>>>> Caryn.Ann. <a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org">Harlos@LP.org</a><br>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:<br>>>>>>> We defend your rights<br>>>>>>> And oppose the use of force<br>>>>>>> Taxation is theft<br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>><br>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>>>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> --<br>>>>> In Liberty,<br>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,<br>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<br>>>>> Caryn.Ann. <a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org">Harlos@LP.org</a><br>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee<br>>>>><br>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:<br>>>>> We defend your rights<br>>>>> And oppose the use of force<br>>>>> Taxation is theft<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> --<br>>>> In Liberty,<br>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>>>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>>>> <a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org">Harlos@LP.org</a><br>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee<br>>>><br>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:<br>>>> We defend your rights<br>>>> And oppose the use of force<br>>>> Taxation is theft<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>>><br>><br>><br>><br>> --<br>> In Liberty,<br>> Caryn Ann Harlos<br>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,<br>> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.<br>> <a href="mailto:Harlos@LP.org">Harlos@LP.org</a><br>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado<br>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus<br>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee<br>><br>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:<br>> We defend your rights<br>> And oppose the use of force<br>> Taxation is theft<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Lnc-business mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>> <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666'>Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt'>Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Colorado State Coordinator, <a href="http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party Radical Caucus</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>We defend your rights</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>And oppose the use of force</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Taxation is theft</span></i><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>