<div dir="ltr">Thank you for your input Steve. On difficult decisions of great import, my position remains the same as it did back when people were urging me to disqualify our Presidential ticket or to censure Bill Weld. As a representative, there are some decisions that are referred to the persons who directly elected me and directly elected Mr. Vohra.<div><br></div><div>If a majority of Region 1 Chairs asked me to sponsor, I would do so. That doesn't mean I would vote for it. In order for me to consider voting for it (and it is just a consideration because I have deep reservations about over-reach and future unintended victims of LNC over-reach), I would do what I believe a <i>representative</i> should do. I would ask the Chairs and the delegates of Region 1 who elected Mr. Vohra. I don't take overturning the decision of the delegates to be my job or purview, at least not my sole job or purview. And there simply is not enough time in an email vote to do such a canvas, thus leading to an express abstention if this proceeds to email vote. I want to hear from the delegates, and I would need to hear from them in substantial support and that simply does not happen in 10 days.</div><div><br></div><div>This is not ad hoc for this. This has been my consistent position on all positions of import such as this, I have older emails on those past issues where I followed the same process. It requires 2/3 vote of the entire LNC to pass. I think it would be impossible to even reach all of the delegates from 2016 from Region 1 - people moving etc., so I would require a 2/3 approval of responding delegates. </div><div><br></div><div>This is what I believe is the right way to handle and is in line with how I have handled my representation in the past. However, 10 days is not enough time for me to do my duty, and I think an email vote is way too trivial to the gravity of this motion.</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Steven Nielson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stevennielson@lpwa.org" target="_blank">stevennielson@lpwa.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="auto">Distinguished Leaders of the LNC - </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I had originally voiced my opposition to a motion for removal, however strongly encouraged action by our Chairman to address the comments made by our Vice Chairman. Since that time there have been, as Mr. Sharpe noted, several further communications that have caused concern with my original position. The circumstances have since changed and as such my position of general neutrality has also changed. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>Mr. Vohra holds a position of great influence when it comes to perceived positions of the national party. What he does while in this position, both "on the clock" or off, directly impact perception. It is a reality that every single one of us who hold a position of influence must face. </div><div><br></div><div>This body has an opportunity before it, nay an obligation before it to take an official position on such actions of those who hold the highest positions of influence within our ranks.</div><div><br></div><div>I am merely an alternate to Ms. Harlos, and as such I am not eligible to second the motion made by Representative McKnight. However, I strongly encourage a second and a vote by this body, and by doing so either support or oppose both the statements made and the subsequent actions taken by our Vice-Chairman. </div><div><br></div><div>In Liberty,</div><div>Steven M. Nielson</div><div>Alternate Regional Rep. Region 1</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 18, 2017 9:37 PM, "Patrick McKnight" <<a href="mailto:patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail.com" target="_blank">patrick.joseph.mcknight@gmail<wbr>.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="auto"><div>I totally agree with Larry. For me the lack of remorse is astounding. I personally sent Arvin an email about this and received no response. We can't grow by making offensive generalizations and calling people names. This is unacceptable behavior. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Therefore I must, with a heavy heart, make a motion to remove Arvin Vohra from his position as Vice Chair under Article 6, Section 7 of our Bylaws. Who will second this motion?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks,</div><div dir="auto">Patrick McKnight</div><div dir="auto">Region 8 Rep</div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 18, 2017 10:12 PM, "Larry Sharpe" <<a href="mailto:lsharpe@neo-sage.com" target="_blank">lsharpe@neo-sage.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="m_1306045951781591429m_1706867336864533915m_4081826608616628569quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><p>Dear LNC,</p><p>The idea that we as the LNC should do nothing as a committee regarding Arvin Vohra's comments is alarming to me.</p><p>If
a Board Member or member of the Executive Team at Pepsi ever said
anything negative about Pepsi customers publicly he/she would be
relieved immediately, regardless of whether they were on the clock, off
the clock, on Facebook, in a crowd or announced that is was only their
PERSONAL opinion that "X" group of people are bad. This would happen
even after an apology. If you choose to take on a public role, there
WILL be constraints on your private life. If you don't like that, you
shouldn't take on this role. The LNC is NEVER off. Our words will always
be used to hurt the cause whenever possible. I have been an officer of a
public company and I
was never "off". I could never publicly say disparaging things about
our customers. That's the price I agreed to pay to take that
position. Ours is no different.<br></p><p>What if the comments were about divorced women? Or were race related? Would we just say, "Oh well, that's his personal
opinion? Yeah, I know he's a racist, but you know, what are you gonna
do, right?" I hope not, because no other organization, private, public,
profit or nonprofit would stand for it, and neither should we.</p><p>Arvin blatantly insulted veterans. That is about 20 million voters and their supporters (maybe another 25 -50 million?).</p><p>After
multiple lengthy notes explaining why he was right,
he finally provided a weak "I'm sorry that you are so sensitive" apology
hidden in another self-righteous diatribe. There is still no real
apology for the actual insult. Then he went on to insult teachers,
another 3 million voters! Then he went on to call our candidates
tricksters and lairs. Obviously, he doesn't feel like he's done anything
wrong and he has no intention of stopping. <br></p><p>He has poor
judgement, no remorse and a severe lack of empathy. He is making it
harder for us to grow, that's one of our primary goals, and he's not
stopping.</p><p>Because of his actions, it is harder for us to get
volunteers, donations, members and candidates! And the volunteers and
candidates that we have must spend more time doing damage control
instead of being productive with the precious time they give us. <br></p><p>
Everyday the damage continues and the pain festers. And some of you want
to wait until 2018!? No waiting until 2018. We must lead and we must
handle our own. We need to act now.<br></p><p>As soon as we start
consistently winning at the State level and become a threat, our enemies
will comb through our data and use this against us. What story will we
tell?</p><p>"Yes, he called our veterans murderers and we did nothing about."</p><p>They will hear that we agree with him:</p><ul><li>Our veterans are murders</li><li>Our teachers are enemies</li><li>Our candidates are liars and trickster</li></ul><p>It
is what voters will think and that is what matters for a political
party. <span><span>That will come back to haunt and crush us once we have several candidates that are about to win.</span></span></p><p>Or we can say:<br></p><p>"Yes,
he called our veterans murderers and we acted quickly and decisively.
We do NOT agree with that, and that's why we acted." <br></p><p>He has every right to his voice and opinion, just not publicly while he represents the LP.</p><p>This
is not about disagreeing on an issue or platform point. It is about
insulting millions of voters and purposely, actively, continually
hurting our efforts to grow and win which is in direct violation of
article 2 of our bylaws.</p><p>I am a huge proponent of second chances, but he has had many and refuses to adjust his behavior.</p><p>Any
officer in any organization, public or private, profit or non-profit
who created and continues to create this much damage would be removed.
So should he. <br></p><p>Those of you who know me know that I rarely
stand my ground on an LNC issue. I usually say my opinion, respect the
answer, do damage control as needed and then continue my work. Not this
time. For my brothers and sisters who were called immoral murders here,
I will not fall back. <br></p><p>I initially was going to ask for a
motion to officially ask Arvin to apologize, or maybe for a censure. But
that time has passed. Because I am an Alternate, I cannot propose a
motion, so I request for any At-Large LNC member or my Regional Rep,
Patrick McKnight, to propose a motion to remove Arvin Vohra from his
position as Vice-Chair under Article 6, section 7 of our Bylaws.<br></p><p> Let him fight for liberty
outside of LP leadership.</p></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="m_1306045951781591429m_1706867336864533915m_4081826608616628569m_4776229456527138003gmail-m_-3057173326603342154m_3467972895583250640gmail-m_2384517870157641190m_-8141029828796735696m_-2829512046939151916m_-287176123662131519gmail-m_931158544463693969gmail-_5pbx m_1306045951781591429m_1706867336864533915m_4081826608616628569m_4776229456527138003gmail-m_-3057173326603342154m_3467972895583250640gmail-m_2384517870157641190m_-8141029828796735696m_-2829512046939151916m_-287176123662131519gmail-m_931158544463693969gmail-userContent" id="m_1306045951781591429m_1706867336864533915m_4081826608616628569m_4776229456527138003gmail-m_-3057173326603342154m_3467972895583250640gmail-m_2384517870157641190m_-8141029828796735696m_-2829512046939151916m_-287176123662131519gmail-m_931158544463693969gmail-js_1d"><p></p></div></div></div>-- <br><div class="m_1306045951781591429m_1706867336864533915m_4081826608616628569m_4776229456527138003gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Larry</span></p><p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Larry Sharpe</span></b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"></span></p><p><b><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">The Neo-Sage Group, Inc.</span></b></p><p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a href="http://theneosage.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://TheNeoSage.com/</span></a></span></p><p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,204)"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/TheNeoSageGroup" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue"></span></a></span></p><p><span style="color:rgb(0,0,204)"><a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNeoSage" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://www.youtube.com/user/T<wbr>heNeoSage</span></a></span></p><p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><a title="View public profile" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/neosage" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">http://www.linkedin.com/in/neo<wbr>sage</span></a></span></p><p><u><span style="color:rgb(0,0,204)"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/neosage" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue">https://www.facebook.com/neosa<wbr>ge</span></a></span></u></p><p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><b><a href="tel:212-307-3545" value="+12123073545" target="_blank">212-307-3545</a></b></span></p><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)"><img width="91" height="91" src="cid:image001.png@01D03B1D.00062F00" border="0"> <i>Instructing – Advancing – Inspiring</i></span></div></div></div></div>
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