<div dir="ltr">I am allowed to say we did have a vote. I believe I am allowed to say the vote total (I believe 5-4 with one abstention). I am not allowed to say, apparently, who voted for or against, or who said what argument for or against other than my own.<div><br></div><div>That's...... not right. But I don't want to breach any duty. And in discussions, members talking about what happens was referred to as "leaks" (I can't say by who) and that isn't right... that deeply implies a breach of ethical duty.</div><div><br></div><div>So I haven't said anything. But I think my rights are being squashed here, but I keep asking for a rule. I understand some people may not think it "wise" to share things. But that is up to the committee members and someone else's wisdom should not be a rule for someone else.</div><div><br></div><div>This lack of clarity is difficult to work with. I am very very open to my members and they expect that but I don't know what I can say or not, and I don't think there is a rule saying so, which means, it should be up to me. As a minority voice on this, I am particularly vulnerable.</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:55 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:whitneycb76@gmail.com" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I was under the impression that there may have been a vote...on what, specifically, I don't know.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I guess my question is...did the Bylaws Committee have a vote to share their email discussions on read-only list, like the LNC does? If so, what were the votes and results?</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 22, 2017 4:08 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thank you Daniel.</div><div><br></div><div>I am VERY unclear as to my rights, member rights, and obligations.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:45 PM <<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_1779985720185819756m_4073854076830483671m_9093358900640674829WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">All, and especially Mr. Katz in his role as chairman of the Bylaws Committee,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It has come to my attention and my brain momentarily allotted enough bandwidth to really think about this. Under what authority are our bylaws meetings secret? (No, Starchild has not hijacked my computer). Specifically Ms. Harlos is acting like she just joined Fight Club. Ms. 1000 Emails being mostly clammed shut. I am worried she might end up like the kid from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory movie that got the experimental candy.<br><br>These are all the reasons for going into executive session in our rules with a majority vote.<br>• Legal matters (potential, pending, or past) <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Regulatory and compliance matters (potential, pending, or past) <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Contractual compliance <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Personnel matters (including evaluation, compensation, hiring, or dismissal) <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Board self-evaluation <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Strategic issues (only those requiring confidentiality) <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">• Negotiations (potential, pending, or past) <br>Other topics require a two-thirds vote of LNC.<br> No action can be taken while in Executive Session.<br>Discussion of action which may be taken in Open Session can occur.<br><br><br>The reasons for going into Executive session are supposed to be listed if a vote was taken.<br><br>But when I ask about the vote to go into executive session I am told that there was no vote.<br><br>I realize that we have rules all over the place and I might be missing something, hence I am asking, Why?<br><br>Someone enlighten me as to what’s up before I slam big brown(11<sup>th</sup> ed.) on down.<br><br>How is this remotely in line with what this organization stands for?<br>I would flip a gasket if the Louisiana Legislature was operating in this manner. This wouldn’t pass muster under Sunshine Laws for government. Let that sink in.<br><br><br>Daniel Hayes<br>LNC At Large Member<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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