<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks Wes. But deliberately making it difficult for people to reach someone in their state party because we're worried they might get too many contacts seems like a self-defeating approach! Better to have a few more random inquiries or what-not, I'd say, than to risk site visitors going away frustrated because they couldn't quickly find what they were looking for, and it was just too much bother at that moment to spend more time so it didn't get done. That missed contact could have been someone wishing to inquire about membership, making a major donation, a media inquiry, etc.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">    </span>Each state affiliate should of course be free to designate whomever they prefer as their state contact; it doesn't have to be the chair. So if a particular person doesn't want any additional emails, that shouldn't be a major issue. The important thing is to have a quick, easy way for people to reach Libertarians in their area, and not make the process more difficult than it needs to be. That is, if we're serious about <i>wanting</i> people to get in touch, and being perceived as having a user-friendly website.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">   </span>But I generally support a stronger committee system, so have no objection to the Affiliate Support Committee taking a greater role in making these kinds of decisions about the website, if you want to defer to them. If they'd like to actually poll the affiliates or something, even better!</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">       </span>As for generating traffic to the state websites, I would suggest adding below the map on the State Affiliates page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/">https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/</a>) a sentence reading <i>"Click on a state to visit that state party's website"</i> could help in that regard.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div><br></div><div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>                                    ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div>                         <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div><div>                                 (415) 625-FREE</div><div>                                   @StarchildSF</div></div></div></div></div><br></div><div>P.S. – An equally high if not higher priority, I think, is getting contact info listed for the committee members listed on the LP Committees page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/">https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/</a>). Currently Caryn Ann Harlos is the only one whose phone and email are listed, and unlike the state affiliates, the committee usually don't have their own websites where one can go and dig to find that info.</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">
  
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  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Starchild, <br>
    </p><p>Quite a few people get each LNC members' email addresses and send
      commentary to the LNC. Posting all of the LNC members' email
      addresses here facilitates that process:</p><p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/">https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/</a></p><p>Below, you requested a more prominent link to the list of all 50
      state party contacts. In times past, I recall some state chairs
      preferring we don't make all emails so easily reachable due to the
      quantity of spam and general emails about things unrelated to
      their specific state, but I don't have any problem myself posting
      a link like you've requested.</p><p>Since this affects affiliates substantially, I'm going to defer
      to the Affiliate Support Committee on the issue below.</p><p>If the chair of the Affiliate Support Committee would like me to
      post the link as described below, I'll have it done. <br>
    </p><p>The way we post things now: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/">https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/</a>
      we generate traffic directly to the state websites and that
      probably causes people to investigate the state party and state
      party's can tailor the way they want to be contacted (whether by
      phone, email, a form, multiple people, etc.).</p><p>What you are asking for will probably generate less traffic to
      the state websites, but more general commentary to the state chair
      or state contact inboxes. <br>
    </p><p>Thanks,<br>
    </p><p><br>
    </p>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/12/2017 11:40 PM, Starchild wrote:<br>
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      Hi Wes,
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      <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>I
        didn't see any reply from you on this idea I posted to the LNC
        list last month. Is this something you'd be willing to do or
        have staff do?</div>
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      </div>
      <div>Love & Liberty,</div>
      <div>                                ((( starchild )))</div>
      <div><br>
        <div><br>
          <div>Begin forwarded message:</div>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">Starchild
                <<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>><br>
              </span></div>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;">June
                6, 2017 2:44:06 PM GMT-08:00<br>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><b>Re:
                  [Lnc-business] Appreciation for new LNC page map
                  showing regions and regional reps</b><br>
              </span></div>
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                color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1);"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica'; font-size:medium;"><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
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              <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>Thanks,
                Wes. Given that a list of state party organizations and
                their contact info exists at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a> ,
                there appears to be a very simple solution to the
                problem of that information being missing from the State
                Affiliates page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/state-<wbr>affiliates</a>)
                on <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a>
                – just include a sentence under the map on that page
                reading, "Click here for a list of Libertarian state
                party organizations and their contact information," and
                have that text hyperlinked to <a href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a>.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Love & Liberty,</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>                                    ((( starchild )))</div>
              <div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National
                Committee</div>
              <div>                         <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div>
              <div>                                 (415) 625-FREE</div>
              <div>                                   @StarchildSF</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <br>
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                <div>On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:</div>
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                  <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>How to list state party and state chair contact
                      info has varied over the years but I don't think
                      the contacts were actually posted on the previous
                      <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a>
                      website in the detail discussed below. <br>
                    </p><p>Here were the states: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://old.lp.org/states" moz-do-not-send="true">http://old.lp.org/states</a></p><p>and here is an example of what was there for
                      Connecticut: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/</a></p><p>We did not create and publish a list of all 50
                      states chairs or state parties. Instead, we linked
                      to each of the 50 state websites. Not all 50
                      states wanted their phones or emails published. <br>
                    </p><p>The way we handle them on the new website is
                      quite similar to the old. Not saying its the best
                      way, but just wanted to clear things up on the
                      current situation.</p><p>Contacts for all 50 state parties are posted
                      here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a></p><p>But the state chairs list is password protected:
                      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/</a><br>
                    </p>
                    <div class="moz-signature">Wes Benedict, Executive
                      Director<br>
                      <small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
                          <b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA
                            22314</b><br>
                          (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
                          <a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" moz-do-not-send="true">facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                          @LPNational<br>
                          Join the Libertarian Party at: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lp.org/membership" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lp.org/membership</a></small></small><br>
                      <br>
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Starchild wrote on
                      6/5/2017 8:31 PM:<br>
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                      <div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">        </span>I
                        can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought
                        to ask the state affiliates themselves and see
                        how they feel about it. If they agree with you
                        that it's better to just let people click on
                        their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd
                        like to have their state-level contacts listed
                        directly on the <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> site and
                        commit to keeping that information updated, we
                        ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though,
                        wasn't the default supposed to be that all
                        information from the old site gets ported over
                        unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop
                        something?</div>
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                      </div>
                      <div>Love & Liberty,</div>
                      <div>                </div>
                      <div>                                     (((
                        starchild )))</div>
                      <div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National
                        Committee</div>
                      <div>                          <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div>
                      <div>                                  (415)
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                      <div>                                   
                        @StarchildSF</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <br>
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                        <div>On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman
                          wrote:</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr">The information for state party
                            leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there
                            really a plan to do so.  Unless there's a
                            major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving
                            the <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> site
                            simply pointing to the state affiliate's
                            page... That way staff doesn't have to run
                            down new leadership for 50 different state
                            affiliates.  The affiliate website sites
                            should always have the most up-to-date
                            contact information for themselves.  If
                            state affiliates are struggling with their
                            website, Andy Burns has been building sites
                            for state parties.
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>In the past I've called the National
                              office to ask that information be
                              corrected for KY. Student group info was
                              always woefully out of date. I think it's
                              best to let the states keep their stuff up
                              to date and just have Nat redirect them to
                              the state website.   The state contacts on
                              the old <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> are
                              probably mostly outdated at this point
                              anyway.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 5, 2017
                              at 9:16 AM, Starchild <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                        By the way, I've been meaning to
                                mention that the interactive map now at
                                the top of the LNC page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/<wbr>libertarian-national-<wbr>committee/</a>)
                                is a great addition to the site. It's
                                nice to be able to quickly see which
                                states are in which regions and who the
                                LNC regional rep. and alternate are for
                                each state. Kudos to whoever added that
                                feature!<br>
                                <br>
                                        I notice the similar and
                                longer-existing Affiliates page map that
                                lets people click on each state's image
                                to access that state party's website (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/state-<wbr>affiliates</a>)
                                doesn't list any state-level contact
                                information however – has that
                                information not been ported over from
                                the old version of the website yet?
                                Names and contact info for Libertarian
                                student groups used to appear on the
                                state party pages on <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> (see
                                e.g. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20160807012459/http://www.lp.<wbr>org:80/state/california/</a>).
                                Having at least one state-level
                                leadership contact for each state listed
                                on the Affiliates page would seem to be
                                in order.<br>
                                <br>
                                Love & Liberty,<br>
                                <br>
                                                                    (((
                                starchild )))<br>
                                At-Large Representative, Libertarian
                                National Committee<br>
                                                         <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a><br>
                                                                 (415)
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