<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks Wes. But deliberately making it difficult for people to reach someone in their state party because we're worried they might get too many contacts seems like a self-defeating approach! Better to have a few more random inquiries or what-not, I'd say, than to risk site visitors going away frustrated because they couldn't quickly find what they were looking for, and it was just too much bother at that moment to spend more time so it didn't get done. That missed contact could have been someone wishing to inquire about membership, making a major donation, a media inquiry, etc.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Each state affiliate should of course be free to designate whomever they prefer as their state contact; it doesn't have to be the chair. So if a particular person doesn't want any additional emails, that shouldn't be a major issue. The important thing is to have a quick, easy way for people to reach Libertarians in their area, and not make the process more difficult than it needs to be. That is, if we're serious about <i>wanting</i> people to get in touch, and being perceived as having a user-friendly website.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>But I generally support a stronger committee system, so have no objection to the Affiliate Support Committee taking a greater role in making these kinds of decisions about the website, if you want to defer to them. If they'd like to actually poll the affiliates or something, even better!</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>As for generating traffic to the state websites, I would suggest adding below the map on the State Affiliates page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/">https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/</a>) a sentence reading <i>"Click on a state to visit that state party's website"</i> could help in that regard.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div><br></div><div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div><div> (415) 625-FREE</div><div> @StarchildSF</div></div></div></div></div><br></div><div>P.S. – An equally high if not higher priority, I think, is getting contact info listed for the committee members listed on the LP Committees page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/">https://www.lp.org/lp-committees/</a>). Currently Caryn Ann Harlos is the only one whose phone and email are listed, and unlike the state affiliates, the committee usually don't have their own websites where one can go and dig to find that info.</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Starchild, <br>
</p><p>Quite a few people get each LNC members' email addresses and send
commentary to the LNC. Posting all of the LNC members' email
addresses here facilitates that process:</p><p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/">https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/</a></p><p>Below, you requested a more prominent link to the list of all 50
state party contacts. In times past, I recall some state chairs
preferring we don't make all emails so easily reachable due to the
quantity of spam and general emails about things unrelated to
their specific state, but I don't have any problem myself posting
a link like you've requested.</p><p>Since this affects affiliates substantially, I'm going to defer
to the Affiliate Support Committee on the issue below.</p><p>If the chair of the Affiliate Support Committee would like me to
post the link as described below, I'll have it done. <br>
</p><p>The way we post things now: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/">https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates/</a>
we generate traffic directly to the state websites and that
probably causes people to investigate the state party and state
party's can tailor the way they want to be contacted (whether by
phone, email, a form, multiple people, etc.).</p><p>What you are asking for will probably generate less traffic to
the state websites, but more general commentary to the state chair
or state contact inboxes. <br>
</p><p>Thanks,<br>
</p><p><br>
</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
<a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/12/2017 11:40 PM, Starchild wrote:<br>
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Hi Wes,
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I
didn't see any reply from you on this idea I posted to the LNC
list last month. Is this something you'd be willing to do or
have staff do?</div>
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<div>Love & Liberty,</div>
<div> ((( starchild )))</div>
<div><br>
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[Lnc-business] Appreciation for new LNC page map
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks,
Wes. Given that a list of state party organizations and
their contact info exists at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a> ,
there appears to be a very simple solution to the
problem of that information being missing from the State
Affiliates page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/state-<wbr>affiliates</a>)
on <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a>
– just include a sentence under the map on that page
reading, "Click here for a list of Libertarian state
party organizations and their contact information," and
have that text hyperlinked to <a href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a>.</div>
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<div>Love & Liberty,</div>
<div><br>
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<div> ((( starchild )))</div>
<div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National
Committee</div>
<div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div>
<div> (415) 625-FREE</div>
<div> @StarchildSF</div>
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<div>On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:01 PM, Wes Benedict wrote:</div>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>How to list state party and state chair contact
info has varied over the years but I don't think
the contacts were actually posted on the previous
<a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a>
website in the detail discussed below. <br>
</p><p>Here were the states: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://old.lp.org/states" moz-do-not-send="true">http://old.lp.org/states</a></p><p>and here is an example of what was there for
Connecticut: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/" moz-do-not-send="true">http://old.lp.org/state/connecticut/</a></p><p>We did not create and publish a list of all 50
states chairs or state parties. Instead, we linked
to each of the 50 state websites. Not all 50
states wanted their phones or emails published. <br>
</p><p>The way we handle them on the new website is
quite similar to the old. Not saying its the best
way, but just wanted to clear things up on the
current situation.</p><p>Contacts for all 50 state parties are posted
here: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/states/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/states/</a></p><p>But the state chairs list is password protected:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lpaction.org/state-chairs/</a><br>
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<div class="moz-signature">Wes Benedict, Executive
Director<br>
<small><small>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.<br>
<b>New address: 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA
22314</b><br>
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Starchild wrote on
6/5/2017 8:31 PM:<br>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I
can see your argument Ken, but I think we ought
to ask the state affiliates themselves and see
how they feel about it. If they agree with you
that it's better to just let people click on
their links, I'm cool with that. But if they'd
like to have their state-level contacts listed
directly on the <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> site and
commit to keeping that information updated, we
ought to respect their wishes. Meanwhile though,
wasn't the default supposed to be that all
information from the old site gets ported over
unless there's a specific LNC decision to drop
something?</div>
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<div>Love & Liberty,</div>
<div> </div>
<div> (((
starchild )))</div>
<div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National
Committee</div>
<div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div>
<div> (415)
625-FREE</div>
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@StarchildSF</div>
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<div>On Jun 5, 2017, at 10:42 AM, Ken Moellman
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<div dir="ltr">The information for state party
leadership wasn't ported over, nor was there
really a plan to do so. Unless there's a
major objection, I'd like to suggest leaving
the <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> site
simply pointing to the state affiliate's
page... That way staff doesn't have to run
down new leadership for 50 different state
affiliates. The affiliate website sites
should always have the most up-to-date
contact information for themselves. If
state affiliates are struggling with their
website, Andy Burns has been building sites
for state parties.
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<div>In the past I've called the National
office to ask that information be
corrected for KY. Student group info was
always woefully out of date. I think it's
best to let the states keep their stuff up
to date and just have Nat redirect them to
the state website. The state contacts on
the old <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> are
probably mostly outdated at this point
anyway.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 5, 2017
at 9:16 AM, Starchild <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>></span>
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By the way, I've been meaning to
mention that the interactive map now at
the top of the LNC page (<a href="https://www.lp.org/libertarian-national-committee/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/<wbr>libertarian-national-<wbr>committee/</a>)
is a great addition to the site. It's
nice to be able to quickly see which
states are in which regions and who the
LNC regional rep. and alternate are for
each state. Kudos to whoever added that
feature!<br>
<br>
I notice the similar and
longer-existing Affiliates page map that
lets people click on each state's image
to access that state party's website (<a href="https://www.lp.org/state-affiliates" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/state-<wbr>affiliates</a>)
doesn't list any state-level contact
information however – has that
information not been ported over from
the old version of the website yet?
Names and contact info for Libertarian
student groups used to appear on the
state party pages on <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> (see
e.g. <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20160807012459/http://www.lp.org:80/state/california/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://web.archive.org/web/<wbr>20160807012459/http://www.lp.<wbr>org:80/state/california/</a>).
Having at least one state-level
leadership contact for each state listed
on the Affiliates page would seem to be
in order.<br>
<br>
Love & Liberty,<br>
<br>
(((
starchild )))<br>
At-Large Representative, Libertarian
National Committee<br>
<a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a><br>
(415)
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