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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>If we received a solid av bid at anywhere around 20 k that actually covered all of our needs I would be beyond shocked. That is an area where prices are always climbing. 20k might get us a bed sheet screen and two mikes run thru someone’s guitar amp, If we were really lucky. But I digress, the point is prices from 2010 have almost no bearing on todays market. I can assure everyone here that the cost of av is something the committee has looked closely at, as is overall sq footage, f&b miniums, meal prices, ease of travel into a location , availability of overflow locations, ceiling height (yea, that matters too) and a plethora of other variables and metrics that I would guess would simply be overlooked by many. </p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">Wes Benedict</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 11, 2017 4:45 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lnc-business] 2020 Convention comment Re: Jul Membership Report</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Sam, regarding how to cover the cost of a convention without a floor fee, here's what I think we did for 2010 St. Louis.</p><p>We kept our A/V costs low, like around $20,000 if I remember correctly. We kept our meal prices relatively low.</p><p>Also, in my sales pitches, I focused on explaining how the costs of the conventions are covered.</p><p>I didn't call people free loaders or insult them for not wanting to pay for a package (at least not within earshot of anyone besides maybe Robert).</p><p>Instead, I explained to them that the only reason we were able to let get the convention hall space for free was if enough people purchased packages and rented rooms at the hotel. </p><p>My mindset was to thank them for purchasing packages, rather than shame them for not.</p><p>See the actual emails here:</p><p><a href="https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-lp-monday-message-2010-st-louis-convention-website-live/">https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-lp-monday-message-2010-st-louis-convention-website-live/</a></p><p><a href="https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-please-reserve-hotel-by-may-6-for-2010-st-louis-convention/">https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-please-reserve-hotel-by-may-6-for-2010-st-louis-convention/</a></p><p>The 2010 Convention was quite successful financially and attendance-wise. </p><p>Personally, I'd recommend spending more on A/V than we did in St. Louis. In any case, low cost options in boring places like St. Louis can work out well and have very high attendance (especially if there's a few very active contentious candidates for leadership positions).</p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre><pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre><pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</pre><pre>(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a></pre><pre>facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational</pre><pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/11/2017 5:29 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Wes, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Alicia Mattson probably has much of the statistical information you asked about as to F&B minimums<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and how we have met them over the years. You are correct that our single biggest expense for NOLA<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>will be AV and it really drives the price of tickets for those attending. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>However, another major factor driving up ticket prices is that around 25-30% of delegates pay nothing to attend the business meetings<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>while still enjoying a chair under their butts, the ability to see and hear speakers through the AV system<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>and a clean, dry and air conditioned environment. I would like to hear your ideas on how to mitigate this situation without having to <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>institute a "floor fee".<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Live Free,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>317-850-0726 Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>317-582-1773 Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p>Sam, that's great to hear. I didn't know how much information on those topics had already been collected.</p><p>One favor I'd like to ask of you when the Convention gets discussed at the upcoming LNC meeting.</p><p>I'd appreciate it if you or someone on the LNC could call on me to give a quick update on how the Food and Beverage costs impact our pricing and profitability.</p><p>I think sometimes we focus too much on the total Food and Beverage minimums, as in are they $50,000 or $70,000 or $90,000? Sometimes those numbers matter, but the number that always matters is how much will the hotel charge us per dinner, per lunch, and per breakfast. </p><p>When hotels charge us $100 for dinners, and $60 for lunches, we have to set our Gold Packages very high, like in the $600 range. When we use hotels that charge us less for meals, we're able to offer Gold Packages closer to the $400 range.</p><p>Often we have no trouble hitting Food and Beverage minimums, and so what I consider more important is the prices we have to charge our attendees (or the profit we can make on the packages to help cover other costs of the convention).</p><p>The other think I think we don't focus on enough upfront is A/V costs. Often, we pick a city and hotel, sign a contract, and then find out how expensive the A/V costs. </p><p>The exact same A/V options could cost $30,000 at one hotel, but $60,000 at another. </p><p>Anyway, I just wanted to get that info out there. I think it's good to discuss these things prior to an LNC meeting at least to some degree, because our meetings move pretty fast and there's usually lots on the agendas. </p><p>2016 Orlando had a huge turnout. I think we make the assumption it was significantly because we think people wanted to go to Orlando. I think that's true. What I don't know have an idea of is how many of those same people would have gone if the convention had been in Kansas City. Perhaps it was more the Johnson, Petersen, McAfee, etc. fans, than the fact it was in Orlando. </p><p>I don't know how many people would prefer to go to New Orleans versus Phoenix. Personally, I much prefer New Orleans. </p><p>Now that I've shared my thoughts, I think you may not need to call on me at the LNC meeting after all. </p><p>Thanks for all of your great work on the national convention. New Orleans is going to be epic!</p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre><pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre><pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre><pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/11/2017 3:54 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>No, I object to such a survey because the COC has already done this work on behalf <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>of the membership. The members have no idea of what goes into site selection and <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>planning of a national convention.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sam Goldstein <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Libertarian National Committee<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Member at Large<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Indianapolis IN 46260<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:%28317%29%20850-0726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a> Phone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="tel:%28317%29%20582-1773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a> Fax<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Daniel Hayes <<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hey Wes,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal>No.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal>Daniel Hayes<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p>Here's the survey I would recommend the Convention Committee request the LNC request staff to send: </p><p>The Libertarian Party is already busy working to select the location for our 2020 National Presidential Nominating Convention. To help us make an informed choice, we'd like some feedback from members like you.</p><p>1. Please rate the following cities regarding how desirable a location they would be for a national convention, with 5 being desirable, and 1 being undesirable. These are not rankings, in other words, if you love all of these options, you could rate them all 5's.</p><p>[ ] Chicago<br>[ ] Austin<br>[ ] Ft. Lauderdale<br>[ ] Phoenix<br>[ ] Reno<br>[ ] Atlanta<br>[ ] Birmingham<br>[ ] Manchester</p><p>(Note, this is not the actual list of cities being considered, though some are and some aren't--it's just for example)</p><p>2. Hotel prices vary greatly depending on quality and location. "You get what you pay for. " Assuming the party negotiates a good price at all locations being considered, yet some locations are higher because they are in a more expensive city or are a nicer hotel, how desirable would the following prices be to you. Put a "5" for the price ranges you would be comfortable paying. Put a "1" for the price ranges you feel are too high, or too low.</p><p>[ ] $80-$99 per night (does not include taxes)<br>[ ] $100-$119 per night (does not include taxes)<br>[ ] $120-$139 per night (does not include taxes)<br>[ ] $140-$159 per night (does not include taxes)<br>[ ] $160-$179 per night (does not include taxes)</p><p>3. Please rate the following 5 potential dates for a convention. Put a "5" if the date is especially desirable to you, and "1" if the date is particularly undesirable to you.</p><p>[ ] Thursday, April 9 - Sunday, April 12<br>[ ] Thursday, May 7 - Sunday, May 10<br>[ ] Friday, May 22 - Monday, May 5 (Memorial Weekend)<br>[ ] Thursday, June 11 - Sunday, June 14</p><p>4. Critical events and decisions are made at our national conventions. However, we try to balance the time given to various activities with the burden of the time and cost to our members and delegates. Please indicate your desirability for the following convention durations, putting a "5" for the the time spans you find desirable, and lower numbers for the time spans you find too long or too short.</p><p>[ ] 1 night and 2 days<br>[ ] 2 nights and 3 days<br>[ ] 3 nights and 4 days<br>[ ] 4 nights and 5 days<br>[ ] 5 nights and 6 days<br>[ ] 6 nights and 7 days</p><p>Thanks for your feedback. There are many factors that determine where and when we have our national conventions. Not all locations are available at all dates, and not all venues are the right size or configuration for our national conventions. However, the information above will help our hardworking group of Convention Committee members pick the best location available.</p><p>Thanks for your interest in the 2020 Convention.</p><p>Now that we've got the 2020 survey out of the way, take a sneak peak at our <a href="https://libertarianconvention.org/" target="_blank">2018 convention website </a>and register today.</p><p>===================<o:p></o:p></p><pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre><pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre><pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre><pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 8/11/2017 1:02 PM, Erin Adams wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>There are many metrics to consider when choosing a venue. I am not sure that most members have a clear picture of all of those. I know that I did not before participating on this committee. I am not speaking for nor against this proposal at this time, merely attempting to point out that there are many things to consider. </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Sent from <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">Daniel Hayes</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, August 11, 2017 11:57 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Lnc-business] 2020 Convention comment Re: Jul Membership Report</p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Should I tender my resignation from the convention committee and we do this from a strictly democratic basis?</p><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Daniel Hayes</p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>LNC At Large Member</p></div><div id="m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature"><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>Sent from my iPhone</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:17 AM, Brett Bittner <<a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Wes, </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That's a great idea. We are frequently insulated from the opinions of those we serve and represent, except when motivated by one side of a discussion. This may give us some insight into how our members wish we conduct business. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Brett C. Bittner </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Region 3 Representative </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Libertarian National Committee </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>**This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.</p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Aug 11, 2017 11:53 AM, "Wes Benedict" <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p>Speaking of surveys, I'd also like to see a survey to help the LNC and Convention Committee choose the 2020 convention location. </p><p>The Convention Committee has done a great job gathering lots of locations to consider. They have collected a wide range of options and have narrowed it down. </p><p>I'd like to see if our members would prefer a more expensive location with hotel prices in the $149 per night range and dinners that cost the LP $100 per meal (and lunches $59), or if they'd prefer a location where hotel prices were around $119 per night, and dinners cost the LP closer to $59 per meal (and lunches $39). The package prices we set, and profit or loss the LP makes on conventions, is highly dependent upon the prices hotels charge for meals. </p><p> </p><pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre><pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre><pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre><pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 8/11/2017 11:16 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p>Patrick, I share your concern regarding our dues-paying membership decline and think a survey would be worthwhile.</p><p>I have done some surveys in the past by snail mail, but it's been a while. I think it's time to do another set. </p><p>See attached survey mailings.</p><p>See some survey results on page 7 of LP News: <a href="http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011-4_LP_News.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011-4_LP_News.pdf</a></p><p>I found the two responses regarding the Tea Party questions to be especially illustrative. </p><p>I will plan to do another survey this Fall. </p><p>I'll also be asking for a budget increase at this LNC meeting to pay for prospecting for new donors/members to lists that have routinely been our best performers. </p><p> </p><pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre><pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre><pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre><pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On 8/11/2017 8:20 AM, Patrick McKnight wrote:</p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>All, </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number one priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a real problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy having pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are voting with their feet and leaving the party.</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to determine what people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept this culture of failure that since our numbers went up last year they have to go down this year. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I think a good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be free and we might learn something. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect that we are doing something wrong. </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Patrick McKnight</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>LNC Region 8 Rep</p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party</p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <<a href="mailto:robert.kraus@lp.org" target="_blank">robert.kraus@lp.org</a>> wrote:</p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Attached thank you for pointing that out! </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Live Free!</span><span style='color:navy'></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><em><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Robert</span></b></em></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations<br><a href="mailto:Operations@LP.org" target="_blank">Operations@LP.org</a><br>Libertarian National Committee<br>Ph: <a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">202.333.0008 x 231</a></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Join today: <a href="https://www.lp.org/membership" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/membership</a></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>LP FB Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/libertarians</a> </span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:center'>size=3 width="100%" align=center tabindex=-1> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aaron Starr<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>; <a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>; 'LP-State Chairs'; <a href="mailto:staff@lp.org" target="_blank">staff@lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report</span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Robert,</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016, so the prior year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016? </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'>Aaron Starr</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28805%29%20583-3308" target="_blank">(805) 583-3308</a> Home</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="tel:%28805%29%20404-8693" target="_blank">(805) 404-8693</a> Mobile</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" target="_blank">starrcpa@gmail.com</a></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Robert Kraus<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>; 'LP-State Chairs'; <a href="mailto:staff@lp.org" target="_blank">staff@lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report</span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no longer tied for 10<sup>th</sup>!</span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Live Free!</span><span style='color:navy'></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><em><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Robert</span></b></em><b><i><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'><br><br></span></i></b><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations<br><a href="mailto:Operations@LP.org" target="_blank">Operations@LP.org</a><br>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>1444 Duke Street</span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Alexandria, VA 22314</span><br><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Ph: <a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">202.333.0008 x 231</a></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'> </span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>Join today: <a href="https://www.lp.org/membership" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/membership</a></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy'>LP FB Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/libertarians</a> </span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Lnc-business mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> </p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></p></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal 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style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Lnc-business mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>Lnc-business mailing list</pre><pre><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a></pre><pre><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></body></html>