<div>So let's start getting contentious!</div><div><br></div><div>-Caryn Ann </div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 3:45 PM Wes Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Sam, regarding how to cover the cost of a convention without a
      floor fee, here's what I think we did for 2010 St. Louis.</p>
    <p>We kept our A/V costs low, like around $20,000 if I remember
      correctly. We kept our meal prices relatively low.</p>
    <p>Also, in my sales pitches, I focused on explaining how the costs
      of the conventions are covered.</p>
    <p>I didn't call people free loaders or insult them for not wanting
      to pay for a package (at least not within earshot of anyone
      besides maybe Robert).</p>
    <p>Instead, I explained to them that the only reason we were able to
      let get the convention hall space for free was if enough people
      purchased packages and rented rooms at the hotel. <br>
    </p>
    <p>My mindset was to thank them for purchasing packages, rather than
      shame them for not.<br>
    </p>
    <p>See the actual emails here:<br>
    </p>
    <p><a class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-lp-monday-message-2010-st-louis-convention-website-live/" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-lp-monday-message-2010-st-louis-convention-website-live/</a></p>
    <p><a class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-please-reserve-hotel-by-may-6-for-2010-st-louis-convention/" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/blogs-staff-please-reserve-hotel-by-may-6-for-2010-st-louis-convention/</a><br>
    </p>
    <p>The 2010 Convention was quite successful financially and
      attendance-wise. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Personally, I'd recommend spending more on A/V than we did in St.
      Louis. In any case, low cost options in boring places like St.
      Louis can work out well and have very high attendance (especially
      if there's a few very active contentious candidates for leadership
      positions).<br>
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    <p><br>
    </p>
    <pre class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, <a class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>
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    </div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-cite-prefix">On 8/11/2017 5:29 PM, Sam Goldstein
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>Wes,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Alicia Mattson probably has much of the statistical
          information you asked about as to F&B minimums</div>
        <div>and how we have met them over the years.  You are correct
          that our single biggest expense for NOLA</div>
        <div>will be AV and it really drives the price of tickets for
          those attending.  </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>However, another major factor driving up ticket prices is
          that around 25-30% of delegates pay nothing to attend the
          business meetings</div>
        <div>while still enjoying a chair under their butts, the ability
          to see and hear speakers through the AV system</div>
        <div>and a clean, dry and air conditioned environment.  I would
          like to hear your ideas on how to mitigate this situation
          without having to </div>
        <div>institute a "floor fee".</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Live Free,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
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          <div>
            <div class="m_-5244013228300292891gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
              <div>Sam Goldstein
                <div>Libertarian National Committee</div>
                <div>Member at Large</div>
                <div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div>
                <div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div>
                <div>317-850-0726 Phone</div>
                <div>317-582-1773 Fax</div>
              </div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Wes
            Benedict <span><<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>></span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                <p>Sam, that's great to hear. I didn't know how much
                  information on those topics had already been
                  collected.</p>
                <p>One favor I'd like to ask of you when the Convention
                  gets discussed at the upcoming LNC meeting.</p>
                <p>I'd appreciate it if you or someone on the LNC could
                  call on me to give a quick update on how the Food and
                  Beverage costs impact our pricing and profitability.</p>
                <p>I think sometimes we focus too much on the total Food
                  and Beverage minimums, as in are they $50,000 or
                  $70,000 or $90,000?  Sometimes those numbers matter,
                  but the number that always matters is how much will
                  the hotel charge us per dinner, per lunch, and per
                  breakfast. <br>
                </p>
                <p>When hotels charge us $100 for dinners, and $60 for
                  lunches, we have to set our Gold Packages very high,
                  like in the $600 range. When we use hotels that charge
                  us less for meals, we're able to offer Gold Packages
                  closer to the $400 range.</p>
                <p>Often we have no trouble hitting Food and Beverage
                  minimums, and so what I consider more important is the
                  prices we have to charge our attendees (or the profit
                  we can make on the packages to help cover other costs
                  of the convention).</p>
                <p>The other think I think we don't focus on enough
                  upfront is A/V costs. Often, we pick a city and hotel,
                  sign a contract, and then find out how expensive the
                  A/V costs. <br>
                </p>
                <p>The exact same A/V options could cost $30,000 at one
                  hotel, but $60,000 at another. <br>
                </p>
                <p>Anyway, I just wanted to get that info out there. I
                  think it's good to discuss these things prior to an
                  LNC meeting at least to some degree, because our
                  meetings move pretty fast and there's usually lots on
                  the agendas. <br>
                </p>
                <p>2016 Orlando had a huge turnout. I think we make the
                  assumption it was significantly because we think
                  people wanted to go to Orlando. I think that's true.
                  What I don't know have an idea of is how many of those
                  same people would have gone if the convention had been
                  in Kansas City. Perhaps it was more the Johnson,
                  Petersen, McAfee, etc. fans, than the fact it was in
                  Orlando. <br>
                </p>
                <p>I don't know how many people would prefer to go to
                  New Orleans versus Phoenix. Personally, I much prefer
                  New Orleans. <br>
                </p>
                <p>Now that I've shared my thoughts, I think you may not
                  need to call on me at the LNC meeting after all. <br>
                </p>
                <p>Thanks for all of your great work on the national
                  convention. New Orleans is going to be epic!<br>
                </p>
                <span>
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <pre class="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
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                </span>
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                    <div class="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220moz-cite-prefix">On
                      8/11/2017 3:54 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div>No, I object to such a survey
                        because the COC has already done this work on
                        behalf
                        <div>of the membership.  The members have no
                          idea of what goes into site selection and </div>
                        <div>planning of a national convention.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Sam</div>
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                        <div>
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                            <div>Sam Goldstein
                              <div>Libertarian National Committee</div>
                              <div>Member at Large</div>
                              <div>8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101</div>
                              <div>Indianapolis IN 46260</div>
                              <div><a href="tel:%28317%29%20850-0726" value="+13178500726" target="_blank">317-850-0726</a>
                                Phone</div>
                              <div><a href="tel:%28317%29%20582-1773" value="+13175821773" target="_blank">317-582-1773</a>
                                Fax</div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at
                          3:27 PM, Daniel Hayes <span><<a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">danielehayes@icloud.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                              <div>Hey Wes,</div>
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                              <div id="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature">No.</div>
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                              </div>
                              <div id="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature">Daniel
                                Hayes</div>
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                                Sent from my iPhone</div>
                              <div>
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                                  <div><br>
                                    On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:08 PM, Wes
                                    Benedict <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>>
                                    wrote:<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                  <blockquote type="cite">
                                    <div>
                                      <p>Here's the survey I would
                                        recommend the Convention
                                        Committee request the LNC
                                        request staff to send: <br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>The Libertarian Party is
                                        already busy working to select
                                        the location for our 2020
                                        National Presidential Nominating
                                        Convention. To help us make an
                                        informed choice, we'd like some
                                        feedback from members like you.<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>1. Please rate the following
                                        cities regarding how desirable a
                                        location they would be for a
                                        national convention, with 5
                                        being desirable, and 1 being
                                        undesirable. These are not
                                        rankings, in other words, if you
                                        love all of these options, you
                                        could rate them all 5's.<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>[   ] Chicago<br>
                                        [   ] Austin<br>
                                        [   ] Ft. Lauderdale<br>
                                        [   ] Phoenix<br>
                                        [   ] Reno<br>
                                        [   ] Atlanta<br>
                                        [   ] Birmingham<br>
                                        [   ] Manchester<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>(Note, this is not the actual
                                        list of cities being considered,
                                        though some are and some
                                        aren't--it's just for example)<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>2. Hotel prices vary greatly
                                        depending on quality and
                                        location. "You get what you pay
                                        for. " Assuming the party
                                        negotiates a good price at all
                                        locations being considered, yet
                                        some locations are higher
                                        because they are in a more
                                        expensive city or are a nicer
                                        hotel, how desirable would the
                                        following prices be to you. Put
                                        a "5" for the price ranges you
                                        would be comfortable paying. Put
                                        a "1" for the price ranges you
                                        feel are too high, or too low.</p>
                                      <p>[   ] $80-$99 per night (does
                                        not include taxes)<br>
                                        [   ] $100-$119 per night (does
                                        not include taxes)<br>
                                        [   ] $120-$139 per night (does
                                        not include taxes)<br>
                                        [   ] $140-$159 per night (does
                                        not include taxes)<br>
                                        [   ] $160-$179 per night (does
                                        not include taxes)</p>
                                      <p>3. Please rate the following 5
                                        potential dates for a
                                        convention. Put a "5" if the
                                        date is especially desirable to
                                        you, and "1" if the date is
                                        particularly undesirable to you.</p>
                                      <p>[   ] Thursday, April 9 -
                                        Sunday, April 12<br>
                                        [   ] Thursday, May 7 - Sunday,
                                        May 10<br>
                                        [   ] Friday, May 22 - Monday,
                                        May 5 (Memorial Weekend)<br>
                                        [   ] Thursday, June 11 -
                                        Sunday, June 14<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>4. Critical events and
                                        decisions are made at our
                                        national conventions. However,
                                        we try to balance the time given
                                        to various activities with the
                                        burden of the time and cost to
                                        our members and delegates.
                                        Please indicate your
                                        desirability for the following
                                        convention durations, putting a
                                        "5" for the the time spans you
                                        find desirable, and lower
                                        numbers for the time spans you
                                        find too long or too short.</p>
                                      <p>[   ] 1 night and 2 days<br>
                                        [   ] 2 nights and 3 days<br>
                                        [   ] 3 nights and 4 days<br>
                                        [   ] 4 nights and 5 days<br>
                                        [   ] 5 nights and 6 days<br>
                                        [   ] 6 nights and 7 days</p>
                                      <p>Thanks for your feedback. There
                                        are many factors that determine
                                        where and when we have our
                                        national conventions. Not all
                                        locations are available at all
                                        dates, and not all venues are
                                        the right size or configuration
                                        for our national conventions.
                                        However, the information above
                                        will help our hardworking group
                                        of Convention Committee members
                                        pick the best location
                                        available.</p>
                                      <p>Thanks for your interest in the
                                        2020 Convention.</p>
                                      <p>Now that we've got the 2020
                                        survey out of the way, take a
                                        sneak peak at our <a href="https://libertarianconvention.org/" target="_blank">2018
                                          convention website </a>and
                                        register today.<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <p>===================<br>
                                      </p>
                                      <pre class="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210moz-signature" cols="72">Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
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                                      <div class="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210moz-cite-prefix">On
                                        8/11/2017 1:02 PM, Erin Adams
                                        wrote:<br>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal">There are
                                            many metrics to consider
                                            when choosing a venue. I am
                                            not sure that most members
                                            have a clear picture of all
                                            of those. I know that I did
                                            not before participating on
                                            this committee. I am not
                                            speaking for nor against
                                            this proposal at this time,
                                            merely attempting to point
                                            out that there are many
                                            things to consider. </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Sent from
                                            <a href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986" target="_blank">Mail</a>
                                            for Windows 10</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
                                              </b><a href="mailto:danielehayes@icloud.com" target="_blank">Daniel
                                                Hayes</a><br>
                                              <b>Sent: </b>Friday,
                                              August 11, 2017 11:57 AM<br>
                                              <b>To: </b><a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                              <b>Subject: </b>Re:
                                              [Lnc-business] 2020
                                              Convention comment Re: Jul
                                              Membership Report</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Should I
                                            tender my resignation from
                                            the convention committee and
                                            we do this from a strictly
                                            democratic basis?</p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                                          <div id="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Daniel
                                              Hayes</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div id="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">LNC At
                                              Large Member</p>
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                                          <div id="m_-5244013228300292891m_5018753599810256220m_8857215024507995210AppleMailSignature">
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
                                              Sent from my iPhone</p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
                                              On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:17
                                              AM, Brett Bittner <<a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a>>
                                              wrote:</p>
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                                          <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal">Wes, </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">That's
                                                    a great idea. We are
                                                    frequently insulated
                                                    from the opinions of
                                                    those we serve and
                                                    represent, except
                                                    when motivated by
                                                    one side of a
                                                    discussion. This may
                                                    give us some insight
                                                    into how our members
                                                    wish we conduct
                                                    business. </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Brett
                                                    C. Bittner </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Region
                                                    3 Representative </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">Libertarian
                                                    National Committee </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><a href="mailto:brett.bittner@lp.org" target="_blank">brett.bittner@lp.org</a> </p>
                                                  <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">**This
                                                      message sent from
                                                      my phone. Please
                                                      excuse any typos.</p>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>
                                                <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                    Aug 11, 2017 11:53
                                                    AM, "Wes Benedict"
                                                    <<a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a>>
                                                    wrote:</p>
                                                  <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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                                                      <p>Speaking of
                                                        surveys, I'd
                                                        also like to see
                                                        a survey to help
                                                        the LNC and
                                                        Convention
                                                        Committee choose
                                                        the 2020
                                                        convention
                                                        location. </p>
                                                      <p>The Convention
                                                        Committee has
                                                        done a great job
                                                        gathering lots
                                                        of locations to
                                                        consider. They
                                                        have collected a
                                                        wide range of
                                                        options and have
                                                        narrowed it
                                                        down. </p>
                                                      <p>I'd like to see
                                                        if our members
                                                        would prefer a
                                                        more expensive
                                                        location with
                                                        hotel prices in
                                                        the $149 per
                                                        night range and
                                                        dinners that
                                                        cost the LP $100
                                                        per meal (and
                                                        lunches $59), or
                                                        if they'd prefer
                                                        a location where
                                                        hotel prices
                                                        were around $119
                                                        per night, and
                                                        dinners cost the
                                                        LP closer to $59
                                                        per meal (and
                                                        lunches $39).
                                                        The package
                                                        prices we set,
                                                        and profit or
                                                        loss the LP
                                                        makes on
                                                        conventions, is
                                                        highly dependent
                                                        upon the prices
                                                        hotels charge
                                                        for meals. </p>
                                                      <p> </p>
                                                      <pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre>
                                                      <pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre>
                                                      <pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</pre>
                                                      <pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a></pre>
                                                      <pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre>
                                                      <pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          8/11/2017
                                                          11:16 AM, Wes
                                                          Benedict
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                        <p>Patrick, I
                                                          share your
                                                          concern
                                                          regarding our
                                                          dues-paying
                                                          membership
                                                          decline and
                                                          think a survey
                                                          would be
                                                          worthwhile.</p>
                                                        <p>I have done
                                                          some surveys
                                                          in the past by
                                                          snail mail,
                                                          but it's been
                                                          a while. I
                                                          think it's
                                                          time to do
                                                          another set. </p>
                                                        <p>See attached
                                                          survey
                                                          mailings.</p>
                                                        <p>See some
                                                          survey results
                                                          on page 7 of
                                                          LP News: <a href="http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011-4_LP_News.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2011-4_LP_News.pdf</a></p>
                                                        <p>I found the
                                                          two responses
                                                          regarding the
                                                          Tea Party
                                                          questions to
                                                          be especially
                                                          illustrative.
                                                        </p>
                                                        <p>I will plan
                                                          to do another
                                                          survey this
                                                          Fall. </p>
                                                        <p>I'll also be
                                                          asking for a
                                                          budget
                                                          increase at
                                                          this LNC
                                                          meeting to pay
                                                          for
                                                          prospecting
                                                          for new
                                                          donors/members
                                                          to lists that
                                                          have routinely
                                                          been our best
                                                          performers. </p>
                                                        <p> </p>
                                                        <pre>Wes Benedict, Executive Director</pre>
                                                        <pre>Libertarian National Committee, Inc.</pre>
                                                        <pre>1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314</pre>
                                                        <pre><a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">(202) 333-0008 ext. 232</a>, <a href="mailto:wes.benedict@lp.org" target="_blank">wes.benedict@lp.org</a></pre>
                                                        <pre><a href="http://facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">facebook.com/libertarians</a> @LPNational</pre>
                                                        <pre>Join the Libertarian Party at: <a href="http://lp.org/membership" target="_blank">http://lp.org/membership</a></pre>
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                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          8/11/2017 8:20
                                                          AM, Patrick
                                                          McKnight
                                                          wrote:</p>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">All,
                                                          </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          don't
                                                          understand why
                                                          our declining
                                                          membership
                                                          isn't our
                                                          number one
                                                          priority as an
                                                          organization.
                                                          These reports
                                                          come out
                                                          showing we
                                                          have a real
                                                          problem and no
                                                          one seems to
                                                          notice. Too
                                                          often the LNC
                                                          is too busy
                                                          having
                                                          pointless
                                                          philosophical
                                                          debates
                                                          amongst
                                                          ourselves
                                                          while people
                                                          are voting
                                                          with their
                                                          feet and
                                                          leaving the
                                                          party.</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          would like us
                                                          to do an email
                                                          survey of our
                                                          membership to
                                                          determine what
                                                          people like
                                                          and don't like
                                                          about the
                                                          party. I don't
                                                          accept this
                                                          culture of
                                                          failure that
                                                          since our
                                                          numbers went
                                                          up last year
                                                          they have to
                                                          go down this
                                                          year. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">I
                                                          don't pretend
                                                          to have all
                                                          the answers to
                                                          this problem.
                                                          But I think a
                                                          good place to
                                                          start is
                                                          simply asking
                                                          our
                                                          membership. It
                                                          would be free
                                                          and we might
                                                          learn
                                                          something. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Interest
                                                          in liberty is
                                                          exploding, if
                                                          our numbers
                                                          don't reflect
                                                          that we are
                                                          doing
                                                          something
                                                          wrong. </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Patrick
                                                          McKnight</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">LNC
                                                          Region 8 Rep</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">Chair,
                                                          New Jersey
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          Party</p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal">On
                                                          Fri, Aug 4,
                                                          2017 at 10:13
                                                          AM, Robert
                                                          Kraus <<a href="mailto:robert.kraus@lp.org" target="_blank">robert.kraus@lp.org</a>>
                                                          wrote:</p>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy">Attached
                                                          thank you for
                                                          pointing that
                                                          out! </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy"> </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy">Live Free!</span><span style="color:navy">​​​​</span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy"> </span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:0in"><em><b><span>Robert</span></b></em><b><i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy"><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </span></i></b></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy">Robert S.
                                                          Kraus - Dir of
                                                          Operations<br>
                                                          <a href="mailto:Operations@LP.org" target="_blank">Operations@LP.org</a><br>
                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee<br>
                                                          Ph: <a href="tel:%28202%29%20333-0008" target="_blank">202.333.0008 x 231</a></span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy"> </span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy">Join
                                                          today: <a href="https://www.lp.org/membership" target="_blank">https://www.lp.org/membership</a></span></p>
                                                          <p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:navy">LP FB
                                                          Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/libertarians</a>
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center" align="center"><span>size=3 width="100%"
                                                          align=center
                                                          tabindex=-1>
                                                          </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
                                                          Lnc-business
                                                          [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Aaron
                                                          Starr<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Thursday,
                                                          August 03,
                                                          2017 4:32 PM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>;
                                                          <a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>;
                                                          'LP-State
                                                          Chairs'; <a href="mailto:staff@lp.org" target="_blank">staff@lp.org</a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          Re:
                                                          [Lnc-business]
                                                          Jul Membership
                                                          Report</span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Robert,</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">For some reason the report compares July 2017 with
                                                          June 2016, so
                                                          the prior year
                                                          data point did
                                                          not get
                                                          updated from
                                                          last month’s
                                                          report.</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Can you revise this report to compare July 2017
                                                          with July
                                                          2016? </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Aaron Starr</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:%28805%29%20583-3308" target="_blank">(805) 583-3308</a> Home</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="tel:%28805%29%20404-8693" target="_blank">(805) 404-8693</a> Mobile</span></p>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" target="_blank">starrcpa@gmail.com</a></span></p>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">
                                                          Lnc-business
                                                          [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org</a>]
                                                          <b>On Behalf
                                                          Of </b>Robert
                                                          Kraus<br>
                                                          <b>Sent:</b>
                                                          Thursday,
                                                          August 03,
                                                          2017 9:32 AM<br>
                                                          <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>;
                                                          'LP-State
                                                          Chairs'; <a href="mailto:staff@lp.org" target="_blank">staff@lp.org</a><br>
                                                          <b>Subject:</b>
                                                          [Lnc-business]
                                                          Jul Membership
                                                          Report</span></p>
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                                                          Kraus - Dir of
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                                                          Libertarian
                                                          National
                                                          Committee,
                                                          Inc.</span></p>
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                                                          Page: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarians" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/libertarians</a>
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                                                          <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></p>
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                                                      <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                                      <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></p>
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                                            Lnc-business mailing list<br>
                                            <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                                            <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></p>
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Lnc-business mailing list
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                                      <span>Lnc-business mailing list</span><br>
                                      <span><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a></span><br>
                                      <span><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a></span><br>
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                            <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
                            <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
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Lnc-business mailing list
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              Lnc-business mailing list<br>
              <a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
              <a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
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<a class="m_-5244013228300292891moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a>
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Lnc-business mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br>
</blockquote></div></div><div dir="ltr">-- <br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>In Liberty,</b></font></div><div><font size="4" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><b>Caryn Ann Harlos</b></font></div><div><font size="1">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </font><span style="font-size:x-small">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Communications Director, <a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small">A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>We defend your rights</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>And oppose the use of force</i></span></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><i>Taxation is theft</i></span></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:x-small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>