<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>My original reply wasn't intended for the LNC, it was intended for the LPF Executive Committee, but since this has become a matter that National is discussing let me give my full thoughts and feelings on the subject, or at least address some things people are probably wondering at this time.<br><br></div>First of, I have been serving my tenure on the LPF EC for my third term now and I have been around since before Augustus Invictus decided to run for senate. Our affiliate has dealt with so much drama that we would have been prime pickings for a reality TV show or Netflix special, despite the fact that we were simultaneously getting ready for a Presidential election year.<br><br></div>In this time, I become familiar with Ramsey and others in the LPF who have been the subjects to a lot of scrutiny and attention. Ramsey and his significant other have always been very kind and friendly towards me, being mixed race didn't seem to have any effect on that. We have had a great personal and professional relationship working in the LPF, I have even appeared on Ramsey's podcast to discuss cryptocurrency. My understanding is that Ramsey has had previous life in which he had held white supremacist beliefs, but has reformed his views and disbanded that mentality. Nothing makes me believe that that is a lie, and from a perspective of pure objectivity, I challenge anyone to find any white supremacist motions, resolutions or convictions in our minutes or any racial superiority being espoused in any of our county affiliates, you will find none. Stanton, who I believe has a lot of potential as a liberty activist, has been ringing the bells proclaiming white supremacy is proliferating the Florida Executive Committee, this is not true. If it were, I hope this body would trust that the delegates of the Libertarian Party of Florida have made a good faith decision to elect their representatives whom they believe are competent enough to serve and would route out anyone who they believe espoused racist ideas. I for one find all forms of racism repugnant, along with ethnology-nationalism which I believe is a tyrannical ideology which only seeks to Balkanize the world. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Stanton has been attempting to make a case for Ramsey's removal or
suspension for quite some time, but I don't find it all convincing
enough to believe that Ramsey wishes to push a white Nationalist agenda in the LPF. For one, Stanton
mentions Ramsey's advocacy of Operation Werewolf, a group of pagans who
are into weightlifting, martial arts, motorcycles and
self-development. They are a group of white men and women who have been
accosted by anti-hate organizations, one of their members, Jack Donovan,
is friends with Chuck Phaliniuk, the author of Fight Club, the
connections just get weirder and weirder but you can make any
associations you want depending on how deep you want to go. I have read
books by Jack Donovan and Paul Waggner who are members of Operation
Werewolf, I like to think I understand the mentality that lays behind
such groups. I can understand why someone follows a group like this
without being a racist for instance. I cannot pretend to live inside
anyone's mind, but I can make assumptions and rational perceptions based
off of what actions others take. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Despite the hard work of our affiliate, the dozens of local races and a gubernatorial race we are participating in this election season, time and time again the important work we do is overshadowed due to non-concerns. How do I know they are non-concerns? Because there is no practical effect seen within our affiliates operations that leans towards racism. I challenged Stanton to point out specific examples of official acts of racism and he has failed to do so. In the meantime, those who believe they are fighting for a righteous cause by continuing to slander the LPF are the biggest threat to our affiliate. I have been taught to protect my reputation with my life, and I feel the same sense of preservation for the image of the LPF, however, by painting the LPF as some sort of group of neo-nazi sympathizers, fascists, racists, or any other broad brushed insult extensive damage has been done to our name and reputation which has resulted in many members dropping out lest they become guilty by association as well as the subject of attacks from Libertarian affiliates nation-wide who think they understand our situation. The LPF EC is sick of it, last meetings vote was a double jeopardy motion to suspend Ramsey but we do not find the evidence convincing, many of the EC members view it as a scorched Earth crusade of virtue signaling and selfish passive-aggressiveness by a small camp who have nothing else to contribute. 100 percent of Stanton's motions since becoming a regional representative have been to either censure, suspend, or remove someone he doesn't agree with. I am personally sick and tired of it all, all we want to do is advance freedom and make 2018 a successful election year for libertarians across the state of Florida. As far as the violent threats, without
a police report or some sort of public or private investigation I do not
feel comfortable assigning a verdict and refuse to do so. The Libertarian Party of Florida is not a Human Resources department, mediation service nor a court room, we are a political Party, and I will not allow petty squabbles to get in the way of our objectives unless absolutely necessary. So far, we have spent countless hours over many years publicly discussing these issues and our decision was reflected in last meetings vote.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I do not believe the LNC should be getting involved in Florida's affairs, no amount of statements or censures will change our situation and will only be another blow to our reputation. We will handle it and may be finally turning a corner. Let us focus on our 2018 election season in peace. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Sincerely,<br><br></div><div>Steven Nekhaila</div><div>LNC Region 2 Representative Alternate<br></div><div>LPF Region 14 Representative<br>305-393-6412<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:39 AM, David Demarest <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-2870639513274284260WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">I also agree with Ed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Caryn Ann, just to make it perfectly clear, I will support an investigative motion only if requested by someone in the Florida affiliate.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the meantime, I will continue to disregard political correctness, speak out against mindless bigotry at every opportunity and encourage economic and social ostracism to cope with both supremacist violence and the moral wrong of non-violent ‘bake the cake’ intolerance. State-sponsored retaliatory violence is not the answer to intolerance and just leaves the door open for state-initiated repression that we Libertarians are supposed to be fighting against.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is no place for bigotry in the LP and the Libertarianism movement, regardless of whether or not specific intolerant acts violate the Non-Aggression Principle.<u></u><u></u></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">~David Pratt<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">May 25-27 2018 Omaha Roads to Freedom Un-Convention<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">~David Pratt Demarest<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LSLA Vice-Chair<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPRC Board Member, Nebraska State Coordinator<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:David.Demarest@LP.org" target="_blank">David.Demarest@LP.org</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Secretary@LPNE.org" target="_blank">Secretary@LPNE.org</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPDemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">DPDemarest@centurylink.net</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPrattDemarest@gmail.com" target="_blank">DPrattDemarest@gmail.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Cell: <a href="tel:(402)%20981-6469" value="+14029816469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Home: <a href="tel:(402)%20493-0873" value="+14024930873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span class=""><b>From:</b> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@<wbr>hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br></span><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ednmax@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ednmax@yahoo.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>; lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>><span class=""><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Resignation From LPF<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Ed. I really appreciate your thoughts.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Caryn Ann<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Ed Marsh <<a href="mailto:ednmax@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ednmax@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">I talk with the leadership (officers) of the LPF on a regular basis.<u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508823941321"><p class="MsoNormal">Not one regular member or member of the Exc. Com has asked me to<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824207154"><p class="MsoNormal">have the LNC involved in this matter.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824302610"><p class="MsoNormal">At this time unless something changes let the Florida Libertarian Party<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824732277"><p class="MsoNormal">take care of its own internal business.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825077000"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825127100"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825127768"><p class="MsoNormal">Ed Marsh <u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825159119"><p class="MsoNormal">Region 2 Rep (Florida,Georgia,Tennessee)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825077693"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825073787"><div id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460ymail_android_signature"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-left:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6d00f6">On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6d00f6"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid #6d00f6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt" id="m_-2870639513274284260m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825225814"><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">-- <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666">In Liberty,</span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#666666">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:7.5pt">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - <a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann. 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