<div dir="ltr">A disaffiliation motion is way too extreme.<div><br></div><div>I think the statement made by either Wes or Nick - I forget who made it - about racism and whatnot being not welcome in the party was enough from LP National.  Disaffiliation would take a serious infraction, IMO.  That a party has internal issues is nothing new and nothing to get involved with.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:19 PM, David Demarest <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpdemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">dpdemarest@centurylink.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-5220239326593888638WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">I agree that a disaffiliation investigation motion would open a can of worms. Perhaps the existing motion calling for a resolution is the wiser choice. However, it is a catch-22. How can we justify the resolution if we do not do the necessary due diligence investigation?<u></u><u></u></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">~David Pratt<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">May 25-27 2018 Omaha Roads to Freedom Un-Convention<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less<u></u><u></u></span></i></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal">~David Pratt Demarest<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LSLA Vice-Chair<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPRC Board Member, Nebraska State Coordinator<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:David.Demarest@LP.org" target="_blank">David.Demarest@LP.org</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Secretary@LPNE.org" target="_blank">Secretary@LPNE.org</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPDemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">DPDemarest@centurylink.net</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPrattDemarest@gmail.com" target="_blank">DPrattDemarest@gmail.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Cell:      <a href="tel:(402)%20981-6469" value="+14029816469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Home: <a href="tel:(402)%20493-0873" value="+14024930873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@<wbr>hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua Katz<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 25, 2017 1:52 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Lnc-business] Fwd: [Lnc-votes] Resignation From LPF<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you to both Steven, Paul Frankel, and Tom Knapp for inserting much-needed facts into this discussion.  In light of these facts, I think vigilance is called for, but do not think it is appropriate, at this time, to make a relevant motion.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I will note, without getting into the weeds, that while I won't quibble with facts alleged about Florida, I would disagree with some of the statements made about certain national groups, or in other ways about the dangerous movement we face.  I think they are more dangerous than they've been described here, and while in the past I considered them individually dangerous, I now consider them to be an organizational threat - and a threat to the modern world which made freedom possible.  (Murray Rothbard pointed out, in 1965, that freedom was made possible by the overthrow of the Ancien Regime, and I think the pre-modern thinking on the right, and the post-modern thinking on the left, are both creating an environment where it can return.)  I consider them, at the moment, the most immediate threat to freedom in our culture, since they have organized and gone beyond being individual cranks - they now are making moves on the world of ideas, which controls the rest.  And remember that far too many people associate us with them.  The Charlottesville morons (if it brings them any comfort, I think I speak on behalf of all Jews when I say that none of us desire to be mouth-breathing bigots carrying tiki torches, so their fears about us replacing them are misplaced) used a banner which was based on the Albany Plan of Union banner - and one of the snake pieces was labeled L.  <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">In any event, as concerns Florida, I think the analysis is pretty straightforward, although the determinations are not.  Is there a problem?  I am convinced there is, and I am convinced we should not ignore it and blind ourselves to it.  Another party tried that approach, as well as "well, we'll bring them along for their votes on the things we agree about," and now is largely unable to get candidates who actually favor its basic ideas through primaries.  The next question, the crucial question, is - can the affiliate fix it?  (A related, but somewhat different question, is whether it wants to.)  I think the answer to that is yes.  There is, of course, a tipping point - a point where rather than try to fix the problem, good people simply leave, and the ability to fix the problem goes away.  And good people are, it seems clear to me, leaving.  I still do not think the tipping point has been reached, though. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><br clear="all"><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Joshua A. Katz<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">At-Large Representative,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt">Libertarian National Committee</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <<a href="mailto:travellingcircus@gmail.com" target="_blank">travellingcircus@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:21 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Lnc-votes] [Lnc-business] Resignation From LPF<br>To: "<a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org" target="_blank">caryn.ann.harlos@lp.org</a>>, Independent Political Report <<a href="mailto:independent-political-report@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">independent-political-report@<wbr>googlegroups.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:iprtwo@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">iprtwo@googlegroups.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:iprtwo@googlegroups.com" target="_blank">iprtwo@googlegroups.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:erin.adams@lp.org" target="_blank">erin.adams@lp.org</a>, Whitney Bilyeu <<a href="mailto:whitneycb76@gmail.com" target="_blank">whitneycb76@gmail.com</a>>, Joshua Katz <<a href="mailto:joshua.katz@lp.org" target="_blank">joshua.katz@lp.org</a>>, David Demarest <<a href="mailto:David.Demarest@lp.org" target="_blank">David.Demarest@lp.org</a>>, Daniel Hayes <<a href="mailto:daniel.hayes@lp.org" target="_blank">daniel.hayes@lp.org</a>>, Ed Marsh <<a href="mailto:ednmax@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ednmax@yahoo.com</a>>, Steven Nekhaila <<a href="mailto:Steven.Nekhaila@gmail.com" target="_blank">Steven.Nekhaila@gmail.com</a>>, Starchild <<a href="mailto:sfdreamer@earthlink.net" target="_blank">sfdreamer@earthlink.net</a>>, Paul Stanton <<a href="mailto:paul@stanton.name" target="_blank">paul@stanton.name</a>><br><br><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">I'm writing to LNC members who commented in this thread plus Whitney as my rep, IPR teamCCed for background, and Paul Stanton CCed. If any of the LNC members copied feel it's worth sharing with the rest of LNC please do so. If not, my feelings won't be hurt either. <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I'm not going to comment on what if anything LNC should do, just lay out the facts as I know them, <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Just before Paul Stanton resigned from LPF exec comm he submitted the following to that body (see links embedded in original): <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://groups.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/lpfec/7Ii6WazfTGo" target="_blank">https://groups.google.com/<wbr>forum/embed/#!topic/lpfec/<wbr>7Ii6WazfTGo</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>-------------------------<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Greetings,<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Tonight's motion 520 is mainly regarding threats and advocacy of violence against me and others, including a current US Senate candidate and former rules chair of the Libertarian Party of Miami-Dade.  Additionally, he is a leader in a white supremacist group, the <a href="http://adl.org/blog/behind-the-american-guard-hardcore-white-supremacists" title="American Guard" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">American Guard</span></a>, a spin-off group of the violent anti-immigrant Sons of Odin - founded by <a href="https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/brien-james" title="Brien James" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Brien James</span></a> (who also founded the Vinlanders - a Neo-Nazi group responsible for dozens of murders).  The crossed cleavers in their shield is a reference to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Poole" title="19th century anti-immigrant gang leader, Bill the Butcher" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">19th century anti-immigrant gang leader, Bill the Butcher</span></a> - an advocacy of violence against immigrants.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Ryan Ramsey himself covers white nationalist "<a href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism" title="Rock Against Communism" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Rock Against Communism</span></a>" bands like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrewdriver" title="Screwdriver" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">S</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrewdriver" title="Screwdriver" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">crewdriver</span></a>, and advocates for <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf" title="Operation Werewolf" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Operation Werewolf</span></a>.  <a href="http://archive.is/EMZPY" title="He has called the LNC Chair Nick Sarwark "Nazi Nick," citing Nick's Jewish religion, then blaming people "disingenuous political leaders like Nick Sarwark" for the rise of the Nazi Party and ultimately the Holocaust." target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">He has called the LNC Chair Nick Sarwark "Nazi Nick," citing Nick's Jewish religion, then blaming people "disingenuous political leaders like Nick Sarwark" for the rise of the Nazi Party and ultimately the Holocaust.</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Here are some links which I will be referencing tonight at the meeting:<br><br><a href="https://www.facebook.com/libertarianheathen/photos/a.1959795147587414.1073741828.1954915414742054/2002228056677456/%3Cbr+/%3E" title="https://www.facebook.com/libertarianheathen/photos/a.1959795147587414.1073741828.1954915414742054/2002228056677456/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">https://www.facebook.com/<wbr>libertarianheathen/photos/a.<wbr>1959795147587414.1073741828.<wbr>1954915414742054/<wbr>2002228056677456/<br></span></a><a href="https://www.adl.org/blog/behind-the-american-guard-hardcore-white-supremacists" title="https://www.adl.org/blog/behind-the-american-guard-hardcore-white-supremacists" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">https://www.adl.org/blog/<wbr>behind-the-american-guard-<wbr>hardcore-white-supremacists</span></a><br><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="http://libertarianheathen.com" target="_blank">http://libertarianheathen.com</a></span><br><a href="http://archive.is/t5jC7" title="http://archive.is/t5jC7" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">http://archive.is/t5jC7</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Bottom line, I am sick of seeing threats of violence against good Libertarians, and others disassociating in disgust over the intimidation tactics, dehumanization, and white supremacist rhetoric being employed by leaders within our party.  If we allow one of our leaders to threaten our membership while having the ability to stop it, voters and donors have no reason to take our party seriously, as we clearly do not.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The delegates very clearly gave us the ability to remove people from the EC for violation of the non-aggression pledge.  Tonight we must decide if we will take that task seriously or not.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">In liberty,<b><br></b></span><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Paul Stanton</span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Folowup message: </span></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>[          ]<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Info about the 1930s German Nazi history book that Ryan Ramsey took his meme from:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="http://spartacus-educational.com/Jewish_Children.htm" title="http://spartacus-educational.com/Jewish_Children.htm" target="_blank"><span style="color:#6611cc">http://spartacus-educational.<wbr>com/Jewish_Children.htm</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>---<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Frankel: I can also attest to the threats coming from Ramsey, his former close associate Augustus Invictus and others in their circle. <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Back in April of this year, on a tip from IPR site owner Warren Redlich, I published <a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/police-report-augustus-invictus-accused-of-domestic-violence-sexual-assault-kidnapping/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/police-report-<wbr>augustus-invictus-accused-of-<wbr>domestic-violence-sexual-<wbr>assault-kidnapping/</a>  detailing that Mr. Invictus' ex-fiancee made these very serious allegations against him. I confirmed with the police department in question that the referenced report had in fact been filed. I made no comment in the article about the truth or falsehood of the allegations. Any comments of opinions I made in the comment section on the same basis as any of our other readers and clearly marked as opinion. Notably, the complaintant and associate of hers also reported death threats at the time from Invictus and Ramsey, who have since then (very recently) had a falling out. Witness tampering was also one of the allegations. </span><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">I also <i>republished</i> <a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/libertarians-united-against-fascism-to-the-cowardly-collaborators-of-the-libertarian-party-of-florida-and-a-call-to-action-against-them/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/libertarians-<wbr>united-against-fascism-to-the-<wbr>cowardly-collaborators-of-the-<wbr>libertarian-party-of-florida-<wbr>and-a-call-to-action-against-<wbr>them/ </a>  (note that the original and its website were taken down so the images no longer appear; scroll down to see the section about Ryan Ramsey as the last part of the article). </span><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">As a response, 1) Augustus Invictus wrote me and Warren Redlich, insinuating possible legal action and hinting at other forms of retaliation; he later wrote another former associate of his, Raquel Okyay, which was later forwarded to me, naming me as one of the people he plans to take some form of unspecified revenge on.   2) Ryan Ramsey published two articles filled with outright lies and slanderous fictions about me, Redlich, and others alleging some grand conspiracy . You can find them at <a href="http://libertarianheathen.com" target="_blank">libertarianheathen.com</a> with a search for Frankel. Ramsey and his associates continually spread this crap on FB and probably elsewhere. </span><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="https://libertarianheathen.com/?s=frankel" target="_blank">https://libertarianheathen.<wbr>com/?s=frankel</a></span><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><br>The slanderous lies from Ramsey were tit for tat retaliation – he said so himself, and offered a reciprocal unpublishing – because I reported the news that his then buddy Augustus Invictus, one of the Charlottesville organizers, had been accused of a pattern of domestic violence, kidnapping and rape by his ex-fiancee. I was simply reporting the news, not taking a stance, except in the comments; and even there I was careful to separate what I knew to be fact from my opinion and what others alleged. Furthermore, I reposted accurate reporting about Ryan Ramsey and his associates previously published elsewhere. His response was to<br><br>1) Publish lies about me, Warren Redlich and IPR, linked above<br><br>2) Offer to take them down if we took down our own reporting<br><br>3) Threaten to sic law enforcement on me for supposedly being a terrorist and threatening his wife, none of which is even remotely true. Specifically, he said he had contacted the Florida Department of Law Enforcement electronic crimes division and was planning to meet with the FBI and tell them that I am a terrorist (a preposterous lie) and that I threatened his then pregnant wife (another absurd fiction). <br><br>4) His pal Invictus broached the possibility of suing us (but said he wasn’t doing that, at least at that time)<br><br>5) Invictus later issued a non-specific threat against me and a few other people saying we will “get what is coming to us.” Among many other people he and his associates have threatened.<br><br>Ryan Ramsey’s article is in fact full of attacks, slander and lies. Looking at just the headline alone: I am not editor in chief at IPR and in fact there is no such position. I am not a terrorist, and that is a slanderous claim. Moving beyond the headline I address numerous inaccurate statements, slanders, libel and downright lies in Ramsey’s article in a series of comments starting at <a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/libertarians-united-against-fascism-write-open-letter-to-lnc-starchild-responds/#comment-1581189" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/libertarians-<wbr>united-against-fascism-write-<wbr>open-letter-to-lnc-starchild-<wbr>responds/#comment-1581189</a> and continuing over a couple of dozen comments.<br><br>To take one egregious example, Ramsey continually asserts that I had something to do with killing a dog. I did not, and while he is not the first person to spread this lie it is nevertheless a lie and he is not repeating it as a statement by someone else but rather as something he knows to be true, unlike the statements about him by others that I have published. There are many similar falsehoods throughout the article which I addressed in IPR comments.</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Others who have been threatened by Invictus, Ramsey and friends include <b>Tom Knapp </b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1636145" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/07/paul-stanton-<wbr>perhaps-working-with-white-<wbr>nationalists-is-not-the-best-<wbr>approach/#comment-1636145</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i>"</i><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#32373c">To date, twice when the AI combination pity party / threat machine got cranked up and I was involved in direct back and forth, I escalated from Condition Yellow to Condition Orange. This involves, among other things, making my family aware of a possible threat, ensuring that at least one person in the household in addition to myself has a loaded firearm near to hand at all times, and paying special attention to street traffic in my neighborhood (which is very low traffic so anything unusual stands out, and I have a nearby neighbor who knows to call if anything looks suspicious as well). "</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Frankel again) The email I was forwarded from Invictus says in part <i>"</i><b><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#32373c;background:#f9f9f9">S<u>tanton, Tesky, Wyllie, Marchetti, and Frankel </u></span></i></b><i><u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#32373c;background:#f9f9f9">are all directly responsible for that, because the babysitter called the police based off the bullshit criminal allegations being pushed by those five. It was the ‘news’ story that caused the babysitter to call the police. Fourth and final: It never crossed my mind that <b>Joe (Wendt)</b> had anything to do with that, but if I find out that he was involved with Stanton or Tesky or Marchetti in pushing those criminal allegations, I will hang him with my own fucking hands. That entire situation is something so outrageous that I am not even discussing it. Each and every person who was involved or had knowledge of it will get what is coming to them.</span></u></i><i><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:#32373c;background:#f9f9f9">"</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>And in fact, all of the people named, myself included, are among many others who have reported being threatened by Invictus, Ramsey and their circle of associates. Ramsey is still neck deep in it even now that Invictus has become a Republican. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ramsey is allegedly gloating about Stanton's resignation in these facebook groups, among others: <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Kekistan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The Right Way: No Cucks, Only Kek<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Republic of Kekistan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">@The Deplorables and Basement Dwellers for Trump<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Anti-SJW <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Anti-SJW Pinochet's Beach Party <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">The ex-fiancee of Invictus, Ms. Rice, and her friend Ms. Brown along with others they knew also reported being threatened and intimidated by Invictus, Ramsey et al. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/08/joe-wendt-for-us-senate-new-lp-of-florida-chair-undermines-libertarian-principles-in-favor-of-white-nationalists/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/08/joe-wendt-for-us-<wbr>senate-new-lp-of-florida-<wbr>chair-undermines-libertarian-<wbr>principles-in-favor-of-white-<wbr>nationalists/</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">....<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Libertarian Party Candidate for U.S. Senate, Joe Wendt, condemns LPF Chair, Marcos Miralles, for pursuing a policy that promotes white nationalists within the Libertarian Party of Florida. “Mr. Miralles has appointed known white nationalists to leadership positions.”</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i>...</i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">“I have been threatened with physical violence by white nationalist supporters of Miralles,” said Wendt. “</span></i><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://goog_1698321734" target="_blank"><br></a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/07/paul-stanton-<wbr>perhaps-working-with-white-<wbr>nationalists-is-not-the-best-<wbr>approach/</a>  see embedded links in original"<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">We are losing good members, and the trust of the public, due to the elevation of leaders in extremist hate groups to our party leadership.  We need a new approach. <b> Local libertarian-leaning politicians and voters associate us with far-right extremists.  As of yesterday, my county no longer has a full slate of candidates for the Florida House.   One of the Libertarian candidates I drafted will now unfortunately be running NPA.  Yesterday, we also lost our incoming Rules Committee chair.  Previously, both our former gubernatorial nominee and our senatorial nominee (prior to me) have resigned their LPF memberships, among countless other Libertarian activists and volunteers.  A member of my 2016 Senate campaign ended her participation with the party, because her employer forbids associations with members of extremist hate groups advocating for violence. A single friend (who ceased her participation after receiving death threats) has reported that no fewer than 30 of her acquaintances have withdrawn from Libertarian Party activism due to risks to themselves and their reputations.</b></span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">During my US Senate campaign, I never expected the situation that unfolded.  I expected the personal attacks, but I never expected racist fantasies about my mother, posting of personal information about members of my family, or the <b>violent threats and sexual harassment targeting my supporters and members of my campaign</b>.  Last month, after I introduced a motion (which was killed) to remove Florida’s member of the Libertarian Party Platform Committee for his <a href="http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anti-racist_is_a_code_word_for_anti-white#.22The_mantra.22" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">racist statements</span></a>, I was accused of wanting to kill all white people, in a “<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_genocide_conspiracy_theory" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">white genocide</span></a>” conspiracy theory.  And now today, there have been threats that the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soldiers_of_Odin" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">militant</span></a> <a href="http://www.theindychannel.com/longform/who-are-the-american-guard-patriotic-nationalists-or-skinheads-in-disguise" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">hate</span></a> <a href="https://godsandradicals.org/2017/03/18/heathen-know-nothings-the-american-guard/" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">group</span></a> <a href="http://forward.com/fast-forward/368055/white-supremacists-and-skinheads-join-pro-trump-rally/" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">the</span></a> <a href="https://www.adl.org/blog/behind-the-american-guard-hardcore-white-supremacists" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Am<wbr>erican Guard</span></a>may be waiting for me in the parking lot, or harassing county party meetings.  We must have higher standards for our party leadership!</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Sadly, these are common intimidation tactics among white nationalists, and there are several other victims throughout Florida.  This behavior cannot be accepted.  We cannot continue to elevate these people.  Libertarianism stands for maximum freedom for everyone, universally. We dishonor ourselves and our party by enabling liars with wildly divergent philosophies, who stand immediately adjacent to <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Movement_(United_States)" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">neo-Nazis</span></a>, <a href="https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/vinlanders-social-club" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">white nationalists</span></a>, <a href="https://johnmhudak.com/2017/07/16/rise-of-the-anarcho-statists-part-iii-augustus-sol-invictus-the-unconquerable-sun-god/" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">fascists</span></a>,<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outlaws_Motorcycle_Club" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">organiz<wbr>ed criminal syndicates</span></a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Front" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">domestic terrorists</span></a>.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">From the comments:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><span>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     </span></span></span><u></u><span class="m_-5220239326593888638m-8183115686762017626m936619301973169335gmail-fn"><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="http://www.openborders.info/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#444444">Starchild</span></a></span></i></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1634719" target="_blank"><i><span style="color:#5e5e5e;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">July 22, 2017 at 09:26</span></i></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p style="vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Joe, do you know which individuals were shouting “white power” at the state convention? Is there video evidence of this? I would hope those individuals are identified and ostracized, and that other Libertarians will make clear to them that there is no room for such racism in the LP. That is not what we are about. If individuals who seek to act in such a manner leave the party, that is not a loss for us but a gain.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></span><p style="margin-left:0in;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><span>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in;vertical-align:baseline"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><span>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">     </span></span></span><u></u><span class="m_-5220239326593888638m-8183115686762017626m936619301973169335gmail-fn"><i><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Joe Wendt</span></i></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1634766" target="_blank"><i><span style="color:#5e5e5e;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">July 22, 2017 at 12:10</span></i></a><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p style="vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Starchild,</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">The individuals in question are supports of the current LPF Chair. Although Augustus Invictus, the most prominent of the White Nationalists, has left the party, unfortunately other less prominent White Nationalists are not [only -p] remaining active in the LPF, the Chair is actually giving them positions of authority.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><div><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Screenshot of Ramsey threatening to knock Wendt’s teeth out and saying he may have an “accident”</span></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/received_10159060778305274.png" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/wp-content/uploads/2017/<wbr>07/received_10159060778305274.<wbr>png</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5220239326593888638m-8183115686762017626m936619301973169335gmail-fn"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/paulie.cannoli" target="_blank"><span style="color:#444444">paulie</span></a></span></span><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1635134" target="_blank"><span style="color:#5e5e5e;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">July 23, 2017 at 12:04</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline">Again, it’s not about Joe.<b> Yes Ramsey threatened Joe, but he also threatened many other people, as has Invictus and their other buddies. There are numerous sources for that, including me. </b>Yes, Ramsey has spread bullshit about me. I think he is still doing it although I haven’t checked lately. Did he know it to be false or did he just repeat what other people said? Well, he couldn’t have known it to be true since it was not true and he did not say “so and so says” he just repeated things as if they were facts and added new ones such as the bullshit about me being a terrorist and member of a terrorist groups and the bullshit about me making threats against his wife. And again, <b>these are just <em><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">examples</span></em> just as the other <em><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">examples</span></em> in Stanton’s article are only <em><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">examples</span></em>.</b><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><b>The real issue is that there is an <em><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">ongoing pattern as reported by many different people</span></em> of Invictus, Ramsey and their circle of friends issuing threats, spreading lies .. to and about many different people .. and maintaining ongoing close associations with multiple white supremacist groups and violent groups and individuals.</b><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem">....<u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Ramsey says <b>“You were awful meek last night punk. Ill see you soon though and well see how mouthy you are”</b></span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"> which is clearly physical intimidation. Joe is talking shit on the internet but Ramsey says he will not do it in person. Why not? Clearly due to threat of physical violence. Ramsey follows this up with <b><i>“Id be more concerned with the teeth in your mouth at this point joe. Your dental plan good?” </i></b>which in the context of his earlier statement is not exactly a very veiled threat. If he was genuinely concerned about Joe slipping and falling due to being drunk, which is laughable in the context of the conversation, he would not have made the threat so specific.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">And the larger context of course is that there have been many other threats, to many other people, myself as well as this publication (IPR) included.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5220239326593888638m-8183115686762017626m936619301973169335gmail-fn"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Joe Wendt</span></span><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1635174" target="_blank"><span style="color:#5e5e5e;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">July 23, 2017 at 13:55</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">To Andy,</span></i></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><b><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">I have contacted the police. Since it has not progressed beyond Facebook, they told me to block him and contact them again if he continues the harassing and threatening behavior. They will be called if he threatens me again.</span></i></b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-5220239326593888638m-8183115686762017626m936619301973169335gmail-fn"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/paulie.cannoli" target="_blank"><span style="color:#444444">paulie</span></a></span></span><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/07/paul-stanton-perhaps-working-with-white-nationalists-is-not-the-best-approach/#comment-1635179" target="_blank"><span style="color:#5e5e5e;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">July 23, 2017 at 14:19</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Also, if all of these if all of these violent threats have been made, why hasn’t anyone gone to jail? Has anyone even gotten a restraining order?<u></u><u></u></span></i></p></blockquote><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Don’t be naive. Threats are not always made in a verifiable, provable form. I’ve received plenty of threats over the years, including death threats, and I have never felt the urge to go to the cops about it. What the fuck are they going to do? While they conduct their half assed investigation I may get killed or injured or whatever else. Or someone else around me.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">And one of the people that has been threatened by Invictus, Ramsey and friends made a good point. This person said that Ramsey has known contacts in law enforcement and that there are known ties between many members of law enforcement and white supremacist groups such as the ones Ramsey and Invictus have a lot of ties to. So reporting anything to law enforcement may actually be cutting your own throat if you get threatened by these assholes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/12/fl-augustus-invictus-campaigns-in-front-of-white-nationalist-skinhead-music-banner/" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">FL: Augustus Invictus campaigns in front of white nationalist skinhead music banner</span></a> <a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/12/fl-augustus-invictus-campaigns-in-front-of-white-nationalist-skinhead-music-banner/" target="_blank"> http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2015/12/fl-augustus-<wbr>invictus-campaigns-in-front-<wbr>of-white-nationalist-skinhead-<wbr>music-banner/</a>  Note: Ramsey also frequently associates with that same banner to this day. "Rock Against Communism" may sound like something that libertarians would agree with, but in reality it's a well-known neo-nazi front organization that no "former" white supremacist (as Ramsey claims to be) would have any association with. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Rock_Against_Communism</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">The Rock Against Communism movement originated in the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" title="United Kingdom" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">United Kingdom</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> in late 1978 with </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right" title="Far right" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">far right</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> activists associated with the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Front" title="British National Front" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">National Front</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> (NF).</span></i><i><sup id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-cite_ref-soundtrack_4-0"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism#cite_note-soundtrack-4" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">[4]</span></a></span></sup></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> It was intended to counter the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Racism" title="Rock Against Racism" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Rock Against Racism</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> organisation.</span></i><i><sup id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-cite_ref-soundtrack_4-1"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism#cite_note-soundtrack-4" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">[4]</span></a></span></sup></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> The first RAC concert was in </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds" title="Leeds" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Leeds</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England" title="England" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">England</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> in 1978, featuring the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_punk" title="Nazi punk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Nazi punk</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> bands The Dentists and The Ventz.</span></i><i><sup id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-cite_ref-5"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism#cite_note-5" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">[5]</span></a></span></sup></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> RAC held one concert in 1979 and another in spring 1983, which was headlined by </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skrewdriver" title="Skrewdriver" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Skrewdriver</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, a </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_power_rock" title="White power rock" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">white power rock</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> band led by </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stuart_Donaldson" title="Ian Stuart Donaldson" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Ian Stuart Donaldson</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">. After that, RAC concerts were held more often. They were often headlined by Skrewdriver and featured other white power bands, such as </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skullhead" title="Skullhead" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Skullhead</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> and </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Remorse_(band)" title="No Remorse (band)" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">No Remorse</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">. In the mid-1980s, summer concerts were often held at the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffolk" title="Suffolk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Suffolk</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> home of </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Griffin" title="Edgar Griffin" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Edgar Griffin</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, a </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Party_(UK)" title="Conservative Party (UK)" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Conservative Party</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> activist</span></i><i><sup id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-cite_ref-6"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism#cite_note-6" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">[6]</span></a></span></sup></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> and father of </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Griffin" title="Nick Griffin" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Nick Griffin</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, an NF organiser who later became the national chair of the </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Party" title="British National Party" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">British National Party</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">. By the late 1980s, the RAC name had given way to the White Noise Club (another NF-based group), and later </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_Honour" title="Blood and Honour" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Blood and Honour</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, which was set up by </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donaldson" title="Donaldson" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">Donaldson</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> when they fell out with the NF leadership.</span></i><i><sup id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-cite_ref-soundtrack_4-2"><span style="font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism#cite_note-soundtrack-4" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">[4]</span></a></span></sup></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> As </span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardcore_punk" title="Hardcore punk" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0b0080">hardcore punk</span></a></span></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> music became more popular in the 1990s and 2000s, many white power bands took on a more hardcore-influenced sound.</span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Note that Ryan Ramsey continues to proudly wave the "Rock against communism" banner. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/chuck-moulton-lp-conventions-avoid-alt-right-white-supremacist-event-speakers/" target="_blank"><span style="color:silver;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Chuck Moulton: ‘LP conventions, avoid alt-right / white supremacist event speakers’</span></a>   <a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/chuck-moulton-lp-conventions-avoid-alt-right-white-supremacist-event-speakers/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/05/chuck-moulton-lp-<wbr>conventions-avoid-alt-right-<wbr>white-supremacist-event-<wbr>speakers/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">More background: <u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/alexandria-brown-response-to-ryan-ramsey-and-timeline-of-events/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/alexandria-brown-<wbr>response-to-ryan-ramsey-and-<wbr>timeline-of-events/</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/update-on-rape-assault-kidnapping-and-witness-tampering-allegations-against-augustus-invictus/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/update-on-rape-<wbr>assault-kidnapping-and-<wbr>witness-tampering-allegations-<wbr>against-augustus-invictus/</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/update-on-augustus-invictus-criminal-allegations-and-retraction-of-censure-from-florida-lp-possible-disaffiliation-by-lnc-floated/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/update-on-<wbr>augustus-invictus-criminal-<wbr>allegations-and-retraction-of-<wbr>censure-from-florida-lp-<wbr>possible-disaffiliation-by-<wbr>lnc-floated/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/david-colborne-augustus-sol-invictus-is-not-welcome-in-my-state/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/david-colborne-<wbr>augustus-sol-invictus-is-not-<wbr>welcome-in-my-state/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/knppster-were-going-to-shut-it-down/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/knppster-were-<wbr>going-to-shut-it-down/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/04/knapp-replace-lp-of-florida-exec-comm-and-bylaws/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/04/knapp-replace-lp-<wbr>of-florida-exec-comm-and-<wbr>bylaws/</a><u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><a href="http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/08/paul-stanton-lp-florida-chair-marcos-miralles-must-resign/" target="_blank">http://<wbr>independentpoliticalreport.<wbr>com/2017/08/paul-stanton-lp-<wbr>florida-chair-marcos-miralles-<wbr>must-resign/</a> :<u></u><u></u></p><p style="background:white;vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem;text-align:start;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Marcos Miralles began his race for Chair of the LPF with the support of </span><a href="https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/augustus-sol-invictus-austin-gillespie" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Augustus Sol Invictus</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">and Ryan Ramsey, both leaders in white supremacist groups, including </span><a href="https://www.adl.org/blog/behind-the-american-guard-hardcore-white-supremacists" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">the American Guard</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">.  (</span><a href="http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/indianapolis/indiana-american-guard-among-protestors-at-charlottesville-unite-the-right-rally" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">The American Guard was one of the groups present in Charlottesville last weekend.</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">)  </span><a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/political-pulse/os-augustus-invictus-charlottesville-20170814-story.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Invictus was also a featured speaker at the Charlottesville white supremacist rally.</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">  The support has not been one-sided.  Last year, </span><a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/election/article97524342.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Marcos Miralles provided a town hall for Invictus</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"> (as part of a campaign to stir up drama during the primary), the pictures from which are </span><a href="http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article167083427.html" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">still used by the Miami Herald to associate our party with Invictus</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">.  Additionally, he proudly displayed Ryan Ramsey’s endorsement on his website and </span><a href="https://docs.lpf.org/meeting/july-16th-2017/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">appointed Ryan Ramsey</span></a></i><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444"> to our Legislative Review Committee.  There is no place for white supremacy in the Libertarian Party of Florida.</span></i><u></u><u></u></p><p style="vertical-align:baseline;margin:1.71429rem"><i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";color:#444444">Thankfully, there was a recent <a href="https://lpf.org/2017/08/libertarian-party-florida-first-strongest-voice-hate-filled-groups/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">press release</span></a> condemning the events in Charlottesville.  Unfortunately, Marcos Miralles has refused to condemn the white supremacists within our party, or recant his previous support.  Instead, he insists that he will “work with everybody” and has dismissed worries about white supremacists using our party to support their platform as “non sense,” despite the support of the previously-mentioned Libertarians, and despite the Libertarian Party of Florida’s representative to the Libertarian Party platform committee, Frank Caprio.  Caprio regularly makes very racist comments, including quotes white supremacist <a href="https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/06/07/bob-whitaker-author-racist-mantra-white-genocide-has-died" target="_blank"><span style="color:#2baadf;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">Bob Whitaker</span></a>. I physically cringed when I read Marcos write: “The Libertarian Party of Florida will forever remain the safest home for all of those that fight for civil rights.”<b>  As one of the Libertarian victims of violent threats and harassment (a Muslim mother of biracial children) stated, “The Libertarian Party was not a safe haven for me and many others like me.  It should be, by principle. […] But that’s not the present day reality.”  Sadly, she ended her participation with the party after concerns with the safety of her family. When she reached out to Miralles, she was ignored and blocked on social media.</b></span></i><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Open Sans";col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span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 8:39 AM, <<a href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">I also agree with Ed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Caryn Ann, just to make it perfectly clear, I will support an investigative motion only if requested by someone in the Florida affiliate.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In the meantime, I will continue to disregard political correctness, speak out against mindless bigotry at every opportunity and encourage economic and social ostracism to cope with both supremacist violence and the moral wrong of non-violent ‘bake the cake’ intolerance. State-sponsored retaliatory violence is not the answer to intolerance and just leaves the door open for state-initiated repression that we Libertarians are supposed to be fighting against.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">There is no place for bigotry in the LP and the Libertarianism movement, regardless of whether or not specific intolerant acts violate the Non-Aggression Principle.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thoughts?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:20.0pt;font-family:"Script MT Bold"">~David Pratt</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">May 25-27 2018 Omaha Roads to Freedom Un-Convention</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="color:#1f497d">Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less</span></i></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></b><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">~David Pratt Demarest<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Roads to Freedom Foundation, Founder<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LSLA Vice-Chair<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">LPRC Board Member, Nebraska State Coordinator<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:David.Demarest@LP.org" target="_blank">David.Demarest@LP.org</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Secretary@LPNE.org" target="_blank">Secretary@LPNE.org</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPDemarest@centurylink.net" target="_blank">DPDemarest@centurylink.net</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:DPrattDemarest@gmail.com" target="_blank">DPrattDemarest@gmail.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Cell:      <a href="tel:(402)%20981-6469" target="_blank">402-981-6469</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Home: <a href="tel:(402)%20493-0873" target="_blank">402-493-0873</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Lnc-business [mailto:<a href="mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business-bounces@<wbr>hq.lp.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 24, 2017 1:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ednmax@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ednmax@yahoo.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a>; lnc-business <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@lp.org" target="_blank">lnc-business@lp.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Lnc-business] Resignation From LPF<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you Ed.  I really appreciate your thoughts.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">-Caryn Ann<u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:07 AM, Ed Marsh <<a href="mailto:ednmax@yahoo.com" target="_blank">ednmax@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal">I talk with the leadership (officers) of the LPF on a regular basis.<u></u><u></u></p><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508823941321"><p class="MsoNormal">Not one regular member or member of the Exc. Com has asked me to<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824207154"><p class="MsoNormal">have the LNC involved in this matter.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824302610"><p class="MsoNormal">At this time unless something changes let the Florida Libertarian Party<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508824732277"><p class="MsoNormal">take care of its own internal business.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825077000"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825127100"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825127768"><p class="MsoNormal">Ed Marsh <u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825159119"><p class="MsoNormal">Region 2 Rep (Florida,Georgia,Tennessee)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825077693"><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825073787"><div><div class="h5"><div id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460ymail_android_signature"><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android" target="_blank">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt"><div><div class="h5"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6d00f6">On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 11:25 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#6d00f6"><<a href="mailto:carynannharlos@gmail.com" target="_blank">carynannharlos@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div><span class=""><div style="border:none;border-left:solid #6d00f6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt" id="m_-5220239326593888638m_-8183115686762017626m_936619301973169335gmail-m_7744508969673300140m_-1112711166165899884m_7918480895681973460yMail_cursorElementTracker_1508825225814"><p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.<wbr>org</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></span></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><span cl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