<html><head><base href="x-msg://189/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I imagine many delegates voted for that bylaws change because they didn't want unlibertarian resolutions being passed by the LNC and hoped that requiring supermajority support would prevent this from happening. I imagine they also hoped putting in a delay between when a motion is proposed and when it is adopted would allow time for any unlibertarian language to be spotted and removed or the motion scuttled. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>The LNC itself acted for similar reasons in creating the Advertising & Publications Review Committee to ensure that staff doesn't put out unlibertarian stuff in the name of the party. I don't believe it was our intention to limit the number of press releases or articles they produce whose contents <b><i>do</i></b> represent what our party stands for. Likewise I see no reason to assume delegates meant to limit the number of motions passed by the LNC that <b><i>are</i></b> clearly in synch with libertarianism. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Besides spreading more libertarian views in the world by using the virtual soapbox we're standing on by virtue of being the Libertarian National Committee, resolutions also serve another useful purpose. Not saying we have this problem now, but if anyone were to be elected or appointed to the LNC who did not really share the ideas contained in our party's Statement of Principles we would want to know about it, and voting on resolutions provides a good opportunity to see where LNC members stand on various issues. If an LNC member didn't want to uphold the Non-Aggression Principle on various issues, they might not appreciate this transparency, and an obvious way for them to seek to avoid it would be to discourage the LNC from voting on resolutions about the issues of the day at all.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div><br></div><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div><div> (415) 625-FREE</div><div> @StarchildSF</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 31, 2017, at 9:53 PM, Aaron Starr wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Yes, the Party is organized to do that in a number of enumerated ways, but our bylaws specifically discourage the LNC itself from engaging in this particular activity by imposing a higher vote threshold than almost any other activity.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">There was a time when adopting public policy resolutions seemed to be the LNC’s raison d'ętre. Fortunately, those days came to an end once the Convention adopted a bylaws change to require a ľ vote with notice for the LNC to adopt such resolutions and unanimous consent in the absence of notice.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Aaron Starr<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">(805) 583-3308 Home<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">(805) 404-8693 Mobile<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">starrcpa@gmail.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces@hq.lp.org]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Caryn Ann Harlos<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:31 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Libertarian National Committee list<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I am fully in support of public policy resolutions. I am very regretful not to vote yes on this but that one part just bothers me. I HIGHLY encourage the Chair to make a statement clearly stating our support of not involving ourselves in Yemen and tying it to our Platform and principles.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">My opinion on public policy resolutions will likely change once someone can demonstrate that such resolutions hurt our PRIMARY purpose which is the give voice to and implement the Statement of Principles.<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">-Caryn Ann<o:p></o:p></div></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Aaron Starr <<a href="mailto:starrcpa@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">starrcpa@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I vote NO.<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">I am of the general opinion that the LNC should not be in the business of adopting public policy motions. My opinion will likely change once someone can demonstrate that such resolutions help elect Libertarians and impact public opinion. <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Aaron Starr<o:p></o:p></p><div id="m_-944127971392236947AppleMailSignature"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Alicia Mattson <<a href="mailto:agmattson@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">agmattson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">We have an electronic<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="m-944127971392236947gmail-m-4807224822799193958gmail-m-1141488058345208449m-4082796757349072613gmail-m5215252036485821826gmail-m-2634892697165612292gmail-m6324776411065130667gmail-m1398300420053645662m3190443451192923416gmail-il">mail</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="m-944127971392236947gmail-m-4807224822799193958gmail-m-1141488058345208449m-4082796757349072613gmail-m5215252036485821826gmail-m-2634892697165612292gmail-m6324776411065130667gmail-m1398300420053645662m3190443451192923416gmail-il">ballot</span>.<o:p></o:p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><b><u>Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="m-944127971392236947gmail-m-4807224822799193958gmail-m-1141488058345208449m-4082796757349072613gmail-m5215252036485821826gmail-m-2634892697165612292gmail-m6324776411065130667gmail-m1398300420053645662m3190443451192923416gmail-il">2017</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="background-image: initial; background-attachment: initial; background-origin: initial; background-clip: initial; background-color: rgb(255, 153, 0); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial; ">Trick or Treat!!</span><br></u></b> <br><u>Co-Sponsor:</u> Sarwark<br><br><u>Motion:</u> That the LNC adopt the following resolution:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">--------------------Resolution Text--------------------<br><br>A Call to End the U.S. War in Yemen and Support House Concurrent Resolution 81<br><br>Directing the President pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution to remove United States Armed Forces from unauthorized hostilities in the Republic of Yemen.<br><br>Resolved by the Libertarian National Committee (LNC)<br><br>SECTION 1. REMOVAL OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES FROM HOSTILITIES IN THE REPUBLIC OF YEMEN THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.<br><br>(a) Findings ––The Libertarian National Committee agrees with Congress and finds the following:<br><br>(1) Whereas, Congress has the sole power to declare war under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.<br><br>(2) Whereas, a state of war has not been declared to exist with respect to the conflict between forces led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates against the Houthi-Saleh alliance in the Republic of Yemen.<br><br>(3) Whereas, United States Armed Forces have been involved in hostilities between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance, including through assisting Saudi and United Arab Emirates warplanes conducting aerial bombings in Yemen with selecting targets and by providing midair refueling services to such warplanes, amounting to millions of pounds of jet fuel delivered during thousands of Saudi and United Arab Emirates airstrikes.<br><br>(4) Whereas, according to the Department of State’s Country Reports on Terrorism 2016, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance is counterproductive to ongoing efforts by the United States to pursue Al Qaeda and its associated forces under the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note).<br><br>(5) Whereas, no authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces with respect to the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance in Yemen has been enacted, and no provision of law authorizes the provision of midair refueling services to warplanes of Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates that are engaged in such conflict.<br><br>(6) Whereas, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance in Yemen constitutes, within the meaning of section 4(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1543(a)(1)), either hostilities or a situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances into which United States Armed Forces have been introduced.<br><br>Therefore, be it resolved, the LNC supports H.Con.Res. 81 in accordance with section 3.3 of the Libertarian Party Platform, but advises complete removal of U.S. Armed Forces from the Republic of Yemen:<br><br>(b) Removal Of Armed Forces.—Pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(c)), Congress hereby directs the President to remove United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen, except United States Armed Forces engaged in operations directed at Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or associated forces, by not later than the date that is 30 days after the date of the adoption of this concurrent resolution (unless the President requests and the Congress authorizes a later date), and unless and until a declaration of war or specific authorization for such use of United States Armed Forces has been enacted.<br><br>-----------------End of Resolution Text-----------------<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">-Alicia<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">--<o:p></o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); ">In Liberty,</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 13.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(102, 102, 102); ">Caryn Ann Harlos</span></b><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; ">Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">(Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Communications Director,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Libertarian Party of Colorado</a></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">A haiku to the Statement of Principles:</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">We defend your rights</span></i><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">And oppose the use of force</span></i><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><i><span style="font-size: 10pt; ">Taxation is theft</span></i><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>Lnc-business mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br><a href="http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org</a><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>