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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sam,<br>
      <br>
      I certainly understand that sentiment.  <br>
      <br>
      Going forward, I agree that the LNC needs to see real progress
      toward accomplishment of goals on the state-side prior to
      encumbering and expending funds for a state drive.  Good
      intentions are not good enough.  We need to see the ability to
      execute.  <br>
      <br>
      To that end, we haven't spent anything in TN yet, and likewise
      wouldn't recommend spending in AL until such time as they have met
      a substantial part of their end of the bargain.  If you look at
      the AL proposal, the LNC is listed last among funding sources.
      That was not an accident or by random lot; I made it clear that
      the state is going to have to show that it can execute.  And TN
      knows this as well.<br>
      <br>
      I want to see every single state have access, but there needs to
      be an understanding that it's a team effort, and everyone has to
      pull their weight.<br>
      <br>
      I can speak about this in more detail in person. <br>
      <br>
      I am bringing Dustin from LPO with me to the LNC meeting, so he
      can answer your questions about the Ohio drive either in the
      meeting or privately, as well.<br>
      <br>
      On the upside, we've never had as much ballot access coming off of
      a presidential election as we have now.  So we really don't even
      have that many projects to choose from.  That's a problem we like
      to have!<br>
      <br>
      Ken<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 12/04/2017 03:38 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<br>
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      <p>Following the ongoing debacle for OH ballot access, I'll vote
        for AL ballot access money when they show me a </p>
      <p>bank statement with the money for their share in a escrow
        account.  Notwithstanding my faith in Mr. Frankel, </p>
      <p>10,000 sigs is a ton for one person to get alone.  We have seen
        several overly optimistic presentations from </p>
      <p>state in recent years to get burnt again. </p>
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        <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0; font-family:
          monospace">Sam Goldstein<br>
          Libertarian National Committee<br>
          317-850-0726 Cell</div>
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      <p>On 2017-12-04 14:58, Daniel Hayes wrote:</p>
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        have a LOT of members that are sick to death of hearing about
        ballot access.  We have other members that are motivated by
        certain things. We have a lot of members that don't believe in
        paying mortgages.
        <div>We have people complaining about $10,000 being spent by the
          historic committee. Despite this being donated specifically
          for that project.</div>
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        <div>I fully support us striving to achieve true 51 "State"
          ballot access. I tell members from states that have great
          ballot access that it helps us all when we have more states
          that have it.    Also, to remember that many states that do
          have great ballot access were helped in getting that by people
          like Richard Winger and Bill Redpath and many others. If
          others had taken the attitude of "I got it, I don't need to
          help you" early on, many of those states actually wouldn't
          have it. It's important to pay it forward.</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>That said what happens when people poo-poo encouraging
          others to give money to the Historic Committee or the Building
          Fund because we need more ballot access is that we probably
          end up with LESS money for ballot access.  Different things
          motivate different people. When someone that otherwise hasn't
          been giving now has something they want to donate to, a funny
          thing can happen. Some of those people get into the habit of
          giving and start giving to other things as well. </div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>It's about developing relationships with donors. When
          someone says to a donor, "what's important and excites you
          isn't really important. Give your money to this instead" ,
          some of those donors will close their checkbook back up and
          not donate at all. When you say what's important to them isn't
          really important, they hear that they are not that important.</div>
        <div> </div>
        <div>Everyone needs to keep that in mind. Options are a good
          thing.</div>
        <div> </div>
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        <div>Daniel Hayes</div>
        <div>LNC At Large Member<br>
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            On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Ken Moellman <<a
              href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" moz-do-not-send="true">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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              <p>It is my understanding that the interest on the
                building is at about 4%, and that previous contributions
                have set us on a path to pay off the building prior to
                the balloon payment.  I have not independently verified
                this, but if it's true, then I would suggest that
                pushing to pay it off any sooner may be to the detriment
                of other goals.  Certainly I appreciate paying off
                debts, but simultaneously, there is a weighing of
                opportunity cost to consider.</p>
              <p>On a separate note, the Ballot Access Committee's
                report is asking for $250,000. I apologize for the
                discrepancy between what was placed into the budget and
                the report itself.  As the report was being put
                together, a number of things changed.  Primarily,
                Alabama has put together a plan which, if they execute
                their half, I would encourage the LNC to execute the
                second-half.  Additionally, LP Ohio and LP Tennessee
                will have "carry over" from the 2017, which isn't shown
                as carry-over.</p>
              <p>Here is the link to the Ballot Access Committee report
                for the upcoming meeting: <br>
                <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hi2dav_9dfwRURz4pv8K6wG5GDsJMYisc-83WW-jRfQ/edit?usp=sharing"
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              <p>Here is the link to the Ballot Access plan submitted by
                LP Alabama:<br>
                <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I2NSKFsqjBXmvLqZXKkHVHNDMxQB3pgaXYsJzxuiVzU/edit?usp=sharing"
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              <p>Thank you.</p>
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                <div class="pre" style="margin: 0; padding: 0;
                  font-family: monospace;">Ken C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
                  Libertarian National Committee<br>
                  Region 3 Alternate</div>
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              <p>On 2017-12-04 12:39, Lauren Daugherty wrote:</p>
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                <p>Hi Caryn Ann,</p>
                <p>We may do 1 or 2 fundraising appeals about the
                  building in 2018 but probably not much more than that
                  because we'll be focused on fundraising for ballot
                  access, candidate support, etc.</p>
                <p>Yes, some people really like giving to something they
                  can touch and something that allows their name to
                  displayed permanently. We now have sponsors for all of
                  our named rooms at HQ so that removes what many people
                  would consider the biggest incentive for donors to
                  give big checks to the Building Fund. There are still
                  other opportunities for people to give and have their
                  name listed prominently, however, and we'll highlight
                  that occasionally.</p>
                <p>For the purposes of budgeting, I do think it is wise
                  not to expect any large contributions to the Building
                  Fund in 2018.</p>
                <p>Lauren</p>
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Lauren Daugherty
Head of Development
Libertarian National Committee</pre>
                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/3/2017 12:07 PM,
                  Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:</div>
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                  <p>Aren't the building targeted fund-raisers pretty
                    successful?  I do hope we have some planned.  Some
                    people really like giving to that preferring to
                    invest in something they can touch.</p>
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                                          <div><span style="font-size:
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                                              Representative,
                                              Libertarian National
                                              Committee </span><span>(Alaska,
                                              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii,
                                              Kansas, Montana, Utah,
                                              Wyoming, Washington) -<span> </span><a
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                                                Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
                                          <div><span>Communications
                                              Director,<span> </span><a
href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">Libertarian
                                                Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
                                          <div><span>Chair, LP
                                              Historical Preservation
                                              Committee</span></div>
                                          <div><span> </span></div>
                                          <div><span>A haiku to the
                                              Statement of Principles:</span></div>
                                          <div><span><em>We defend your
                                                rights</em></span></div>
                                          <div><span><em>And oppose the
                                                use of force</em></span></div>
                                          <div><span><em>Taxation is
                                                theft</em></span></div>
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                  <p>On 2017-12-03 10:31, Tim Hagan wrote:</p>
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                    <p>The draft 2018 budget that we were working on is
                      attached in Excel and PDF formats. I deleted the
                      worksheet for Total Salary since it contains the
                      salary for each staff member, which we have always
                      treated as confidential. Let me know if you want a
                      copy of the confidential salary expenses sheet.</p>
                    <p><span>The first worksheet, Operating Budget, is
                        the budget to be considered. The amounts are
                        calculated from the values on the Account Detail
                        sheet. </span></p>
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                        id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296847">Note
                        on the Operating Budget sheet, row 49, that the
                        budget has a $155,064 net deficit.<br
                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296837">
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                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296838">
                        On the Account Detail sheet, many of the revenue
                        numbers are based on the amounts raised in 2017.
                        The draft assumes no growth in membership during
                        the year.<br
                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296839">
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                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296840">
                        No targeted fundraising is planned for the
                        Building Fund, so its budgeted revenue of
                        $15,000 is based on 2016.<br
                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296841">
                        <br
                          id="yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296842">
                        Expenses were increased compared to previous
                        years in the areas where contractors or staff
                        have been hired for functional areas: Affiliate
                        Development, Donor Renewal, Media Relations,
                        Candidate Support & Training. </span></p>
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                        Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee</div>
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                    <p>On 2017-12-02 18:22, Joshua Katz wrote:</p>
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                      <div dir="ltr">I did not receive any reply
                        indicating when the proposed budget would be
                        available.  The meeting is now next week.  Is
                        the EC's proposed budget available yet?  </div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at
                          11:37 AM, Joshua Katz <span><<a
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                            <div dir="ltr">It appears (I just noticed
                              last night; I thought our next meeting was
                              in April) that we have a budget meeting in
                              December.  Ahead of that, I wanted to ask
                              if the EC had a timeline for the proposed
                              budget.
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                              <div>Last term, we held one or two
                                teleconferences after we had the
                                proposed budget.  I found those helpful,
                                and would encourage us to do that
                                again.  I don't know that they resolved
                                much, but at least we knew going in
                                where the flashpoints were.  </div>
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                              <div>In any case, I'd appreciate knowing
                                when we can expect the proposed budget
                                so I can plan my time accordingly.</div>
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