<div dir="ltr">Sam, I think the point is that any effort to raise or spend toward the mortgage takes away from the actual efforts to get Libertarians elected. I was one of the folks who supported getting caught up on the off-year additional payment...and got excited about the idea of getting out of debt (paying off mortgage). However, I am seeing things differently now, and believe that it is not in our best financial interest.<div><br></div><div>Considering a single donor, who would consider giving to the building fund....would they consider giving to something more likely to lead to an elected Libertarian? If not, then it makes sense to let them pay for the building. But if giving to the building fund means they will have less to give, or be less inclined to give, to our other causes, then it might not be a good idea.</div><div><br></div><div>Paying staff to raise money to pay off a mortgage seems absurd, in those terms. Paying staff to raise money to get Libertarians elected is better :).</div><div><br></div><div> </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Lauren Daugherty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lauren.daugherty@lp.org" target="_blank">lauren.daugherty@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>That sounds like a very nice option also. </p>
I think we have great opportunities in pretty much every major city
in America and I'll be happy to pursue those opportunities wherever
the LNC decides.
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Head of Development
Libertarian National Committee</pre>
</span><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_1594543151973571166moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2017 6:19 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
wrote:<br>
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<p>The LPCO has a couple that have often hosted fundraising
parties and have a beautiful and large home. I have not
approached them but this could be an option for Denver. I
believe I could find some others as well.</p>
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<div><span style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:xx-small">Region
1 Representative, Libertarian National
Committee </span><span>(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) -<span> </span><a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.
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<div><span>Communications Director,<span> </span><a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span>Chair, LP Historical
Preservation Committee</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div>
<div><span>A haiku to the Statement of
Principles:</span></div>
<div><span><em>We defend your rights</em></span></div>
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<p>On 2017-12-04 16:58, Lauren Daugherty wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>I am posting to echo Whitney's observation. I also agree with
Daniel that donors like options and different things appeal to
different folks and that is a good thing. And I agree with Ken
that ballot access is critical.</p>
<p>49 state ballot access is a harder sell to donors and members
than 50 state (plus DC) ballot access. Major donors, whom we
need to invest in a big way to make much of this happen, are
not excited by "almost". They care about us setting solid,
ambitious goals and then working hard to reach them.</p>
<p>Tomorrow, I plan to send the LNC an update on fundraising. </p>
<p>Also, given that the LNC is currently considering locations
for the spring LNC meeting, please know that we have a donor
in Charleston that has graciously offered to host a house
party at his beautiful home overlooking Charleston harbor.
This would be an excellent opportunity for an event the Friday
before the LNC meeting, assuming he is available on the
weekend chosen by the LNC. Of the cities discussed, I think we
can do productive events at any of them but, from a
fundraising perspective, Charleston and Los Angeles would be
my top recommendations.</p>
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Head of Development
Libertarian National Committee</pre>
<div class="m_1594543151973571166moz-cite-prefix">On 12/4/2017 5:24 PM, Whitney
Bilyeu wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div dir="ltr">I had a donor tell me once that if we made
extra payments, beyond what is required by the Weiner Rule,
he would be reluctant to give for ballot access in the
future.
<div> </div>
<div>Whitney</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Ken
Moellman <span><<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>That's a different story. Those interested who
haven't heard can hear it for the price of one
bourbon.</p>
<p>PS. I'm bringing bourbon again.</p>
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Libertarian National Committee<br>
Region 3 Alternate</div>
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<p>On 2017-12-04 17:18, Daniel Hayes wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">That sounds like
the sort of speech that would make someone
reconsider a resignation.
<div> </div>
<div>Daniel<br>
<br>
<div id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356AppleMailSignature">Sent
from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Dec 4, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Ken Moellman
<<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div>
<p>If we hit true 51 state access, then we
will achieve something that's never been
done by a "minor" party in history;
therefore, I think it's actually a "big
deal" for everyone.</p>
<p>I support the HPC, and I think the
project is important. Those who don't
learn from history are doomed to repeat
it. (And I think the name was my
suggestion?)</p>
<p>I get pretty sad when people poo-poo
these projects. The reality is that I
think they're all important. We're not
spinning up a committee to decide what
color to paint the hallway on the first
floor of the office, or arguing over
We're trying to retain institutional
knowledge, which is critical for
success, and go where no one has ever
gone before, which is an indicator of
that success. We're running committees
to make sure our messaging doesn't go
off the rails. We're running committees
to continue to top the successes of
previous conventions. We're modernizing
our IT infrastructure (and doing more
with less!). There's a lot of really,
really good stuff happening on the LNC,
because, despite our disagreements on
various things, this particular LNC has
been getting things done.</p>
<p><br>
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<div class="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356pre" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family:monospace">Ken C.
Moellman, Jr.<br>
Libertarian National Committee<br>
Region 3 Alternate</div>
</div>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>On 2017-12-04 14:58, Daniel Hayes
wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">We have a LOT of members that are
sick to death of hearing about ballot
access. We have other members that are
motivated by certain things. We have a
lot of members that don't believe in
paying mortgages.
<div>We have people complaining about
$10,000 being spent by the historic
committee. Despite this being donated
specifically for that project.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I fully support us striving to
achieve true 51 "State" ballot access.
I tell members from states that have
great ballot access that it helps us
all when we have more states that have
it. Also, to remember that many
states that do have great ballot
access were helped in getting that by
people like Richard Winger and Bill
Redpath and many others. If others had
taken the attitude of "I got it, I
don't need to help you" early on, many
of those states actually wouldn't have
it. It's important to pay it forward.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said what happens when people
poo-poo encouraging others to give
money to the Historic Committee or the
Building Fund because we need more
ballot access is that we probably end
up with LESS money for ballot access.
Different things motivate different
people. When someone that otherwise
hasn't been giving now has something
they want to donate to, a funny thing
can happen. Some of those people get
into the habit of giving and start
giving to other things as well. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>It's about developing relationships
with donors. When someone says to a
donor, "what's important and excites
you isn't really important. Give your
money to this instead" , some of those
donors will close their checkbook back
up and not donate at all. When you say
what's important to them isn't really
important, they hear that they are not
that important.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Everyone needs to keep that in
mind. Options are a good thing.</div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>Daniel Hayes</div>
<div>LNC At Large Member<br>
<br>
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from my iPhone</div>
<div><br>
On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Ken
Moellman <<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<div>
<p>It is my understanding that the
interest on the building is at
about 4%, and that previous
contributions have set us on a
path to pay off the building
prior to the balloon payment. I
have not independently verified
this, but if it's true, then I
would suggest that pushing to
pay it off any sooner may be to
the detriment of other goals.
Certainly I appreciate paying
off debts, but simultaneously,
there is a weighing of
opportunity cost to consider.</p>
<p>On a separate note, the Ballot
Access Committee's report is
asking for $250,000. I apologize
for the discrepancy between what
was placed into the budget and
the report itself. As the
report was being put together, a
number of things changed.
Primarily, Alabama has put
together a plan which, if they
execute their half, I would
encourage the LNC to execute the
second-half. Additionally, LP
Ohio and LP Tennessee will have
"carry over" from the 2017,
which isn't shown as carry-over.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the Ballot
Access Committee report for the
upcoming meeting: <br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hi2dav_9dfwRURz4pv8K6wG5GDsJMYisc-83WW-jRfQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1hi2dav_9dfwRURz4pv8K6wG5<wbr>GDsJMYisc-83WW-jRfQ/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a></p>
<p>Here is the link to the Ballot
Access plan submitted by LP
Alabama:<br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I2NSKFsqjBXmvLqZXKkHVHNDMxQB3pgaXYsJzxuiVzU/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1I2NSKFsqjBXmvLqZXKkHVHND<wbr>MxQB3pgaXYsJzxuiVzU/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a></p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<div>---<br>
<div class="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356pre" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family:monospace">Ken
C. Moellman, Jr.<br>
Libertarian National Committee<br>
Region 3 Alternate</div>
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<p><br>
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<p>On 2017-12-04 12:39, Lauren
Daugherty wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>Hi Caryn Ann,</p>
<p>We may do 1 or 2 fundraising
appeals about the building in
2018 but probably not much
more than that because we'll
be focused on fundraising for
ballot access, candidate
support, etc.</p>
<p>Yes, some people really like
giving to something they can
touch and something that
allows their name to displayed
permanently. We now have
sponsors for all of our named
rooms at HQ so that removes
what many people would
consider the biggest incentive
for donors to give big checks
to the Building Fund. There
are still other opportunities
for people to give and have
their name listed prominently,
however, and we'll highlight
that occasionally.</p>
<p>For the purposes of
budgeting, I do think it is
wise not to expect any large
contributions to the Building
Fund in 2018.</p>
<p>Lauren</p>
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Head of Development
Libertarian National Committee</pre>
<div class="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356moz-cite-prefix">On
12/3/2017 12:07 PM, Caryn Ann
Harlos wrote:</div>
<blockquote style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">
<p>Aren't the building
targeted fund-raisers pretty
successful? I do hope we
have some planned. Some
people really like giving to
that preferring to invest in
something they can touch.</p>
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Liberty,</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="color:#666666;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:large"><strong>Caryn
Ann Harlos</strong></span></div>
<div><span style="font-size:xx-small">Region
1
Representative,
Libertarian
National
Committee </span><span>(Alaska,
Arizona,
Colorado,
Hawaii,
Kansas,
Montana, Utah,
Wyoming,
Washington) -<span> </span><a href="mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org" target="_blank">Caryn.Ann.
Harlos@LP.org</a></span></div>
<div><span>Communications
Director,<span> </span><a href="http://www.lpcolorado.org/" target="_blank">Libertarian
Party of
Colorado</a></span></div>
<div><span>Chair,
LP Historical
Preservation
Committee</span></div>
<div><span> </span></div>
<div><span>A
haiku to the
Statement of
Principles:</span></div>
<div><span><em>We
defend your
rights</em></span></div>
<div><span><em>And
oppose the use
of force</em></span></div>
<div><span><em>Taxation
is theft</em></span></div>
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<p>On 2017-12-03 10:31, Tim
Hagan wrote:</p>
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<p>The draft 2018 budget
that we were working on is
attached in Excel and PDF
formats. I deleted the
worksheet for Total Salary
since it contains the
salary for each staff
member, which we have
always treated as
confidential. Let me know
if you want a copy of the
confidential salary
expenses sheet.</p>
<p><span>The first
worksheet, Operating
Budget, is the budget to
be considered. The
amounts are calculated
from the values on the
Account Detail sheet. </span></p>
<p><span id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296847">Note
on the Operating Budget
sheet, row 49, that the
budget has a $155,064
net deficit.<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296837">
<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296838">
On the Account Detail
sheet, many of the
revenue numbers are
based on the amounts
raised in 2017. The
draft assumes no growth
in membership during the
year.<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296839">
<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296840">
No targeted fundraising
is planned for the
Building Fund, so its
budgeted revenue of
$15,000 is based on
2016.<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296841">
<br id="m_1594543151973571166m_-5552458831354278356yiv3378273447yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1509592841380_1296842">
Expenses were increased
compared to previous
years in the areas where
contractors or staff
have been hired for
functional areas:
Affiliate Development,
Donor Renewal, Media
Relations, Candidate
Support & Training.
</span></p>
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Treasurer, Libertarian
National Committee</div>
</div>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>On 2017-12-02 18:22,
Joshua Katz wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">I did not
receive any reply
indicating when the
proposed budget would be
available. The meeting
is now next week. Is
the EC's proposed budget
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<div class="gmail_quote">On
Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at
11:37 AM, Joshua Katz
<span><<a href="mailto:planning4liberty@gmail.com" target="_blank">planning4liberty@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It
appears (I just
noticed last
night; I thought
our next meeting
was in April) that
we have a budget
meeting in
December. Ahead
of that, I wanted
to ask if the EC
had a timeline for
the proposed
budget.
<div> </div>
<div>Last term, we
held one or two
teleconferences
after we had the
proposed
budget. I found
those helpful,
and would
encourage us to
do that again.
I don't know
that they
resolved much,
but at least we
knew going in
where the
flashpoints
were. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>In any case,
I'd appreciate
knowing when we
can expect the
proposed budget
so I can plan my
time
accordingly.</div>
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<a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org" target="_blank">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/lnc-business</a></div>
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<a class="m_1594543151973571166moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/lnc-business</a>
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<a href="mailto:Lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Lnc-business@hq.lp.org</a><br>
<a href="http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/<wbr>mailman/listinfo/lnc-business</a><br>
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