<div dir="ltr">I am inclined to put the Alabama drive into the budget. I will say this, though: if you want my vote for a budget, it will be a balanced budget, and so the money to cover that, plus the money to cover the existing deficit, is going to have to come from somewhere. I'm perfectly willing to adjust revenue if a reasonable case is made as to why - often, an expenditure is, in itself, a reason to expect some fundraising line to go up, but some case has to be made, in my view, not just "let's make this line higher so it balances." <div><br></div><div>I also think we need to allocate more to drives when we decide to do them. I am only in my second term on the LNC, but it's clear to me that, consistently (including the CT drive I ran) we come back saying that something is going to cost more than we originally thought. I think we need to adjust our expectations up front on ballot access, assume less, and as a result, make a decision about what the full expenditure will be, rather than approving a relatively small expenditure, then approving more because, well, we're not going to let our sunk costs go to waste. </div><div><br></div><div>Finally, last term we adopted goals. This term, we did not. In the last term, 50+1 ballot access was not one of those goals. No LNC action has made it a goal this term. I think it's become something of an implied goal - and making something a goal without any LNC action means there's no real discussion or weighing of pros and cons. I think we should avoid adopting goals by default - whatever they happen to be. Sometimes, we even let goals get pushed on us from outside - let's be proactive and decide what we want to achieve for ourselves.</div><div><br></div><div>As to the mortgage, I strongly support the Wiener Rule, and would support an effort to amend the policy manual to require us to actually pay the amount indicated, not just budget it (perhaps with some sort of proviso based on financial condition, cash flow, or the like). That said, it does not require any extra payments in 2018, and I'm not inclined to budget for any, but my opinion on that can be changed by the remainder of the budget. The way I see it, adopting a budget incorporates beliefs about the total payout of money we spend on operations - a deficit budget, for instance, assumes the return on investment will more than cover that deficit in the following years. If the budget has a deficit greater than 4.85%, as a result, I'd oppose any payments beyond those required. If the budget is balanced, I'm more open to extra payments.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Joshua A. Katz<div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Ken Moellman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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I certainly understand that sentiment. <br>
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Going forward, I agree that the LNC needs to see real progress
toward accomplishment of goals on the state-side prior to
encumbering and expending funds for a state drive. Good
intentions are not good enough. We need to see the ability to
execute. <br>
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To that end, we haven't spent anything in TN yet, and likewise
wouldn't recommend spending in AL until such time as they have met
a substantial part of their end of the bargain. If you look at
the AL proposal, the LNC is listed last among funding sources.
That was not an accident or by random lot; I made it clear that
the state is going to have to show that it can execute. And TN
knows this as well.<br>
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I want to see every single state have access, but there needs to
be an understanding that it's a team effort, and everyone has to
pull their weight.<br>
<br>
I can speak about this in more detail in person. <br>
<br>
I am bringing Dustin from LPO with me to the LNC meeting, so he
can answer your questions about the Ohio drive either in the
meeting or privately, as well.<br>
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On the upside, we've never had as much ballot access coming off of
a presidential election as we have now. So we really don't even
have that many projects to choose from. That's a problem we like
to have!<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Ken</font></span><div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 12/04/2017 03:38 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:<br>
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<p>Following the ongoing debacle for OH ballot access, I'll vote
for AL ballot access money when they show me a </p>
<p>bank statement with the money for their share in a escrow
account. Notwithstanding my faith in Mr. Frankel, </p>
<p>10,000 sigs is a ton for one person to get alone. We have seen
several overly optimistic presentations from </p>
<p>state in recent years to get burnt again. </p>
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<p>On 2017-12-04 14:58, Daniel Hayes wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">We
have a LOT of members that are sick to death of hearing about
ballot access. We have other members that are motivated by
certain things. We have a lot of members that don't believe in
paying mortgages.
<div>We have people complaining about $10,000 being spent by the
historic committee. Despite this being donated specifically
for that project.</div>
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<div>I fully support us striving to achieve true 51 "State"
ballot access. I tell members from states that have great
ballot access that it helps us all when we have more states
that have it. Also, to remember that many states that do
have great ballot access were helped in getting that by people
like Richard Winger and Bill Redpath and many others. If
others had taken the attitude of "I got it, I don't need to
help you" early on, many of those states actually wouldn't
have it. It's important to pay it forward.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>That said what happens when people poo-poo encouraging
others to give money to the Historic Committee or the Building
Fund because we need more ballot access is that we probably
end up with LESS money for ballot access. Different things
motivate different people. When someone that otherwise hasn't
been giving now has something they want to donate to, a funny
thing can happen. Some of those people get into the habit of
giving and start giving to other things as well. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>It's about developing relationships with donors. When
someone says to a donor, "what's important and excites you
isn't really important. Give your money to this instead" ,
some of those donors will close their checkbook back up and
not donate at all. When you say what's important to them isn't
really important, they hear that they are not that important.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Everyone needs to keep that in mind. Options are a good
thing.</div>
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<div>Daniel Hayes</div>
<div>LNC At Large Member<br>
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On Dec 4, 2017, at 1:35 PM, Ken Moellman <<a href="mailto:ken.moellman@lp.org" target="_blank">ken.moellman@lp.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<p>It is my understanding that the interest on the
building is at about 4%, and that previous contributions
have set us on a path to pay off the building prior to
the balloon payment. I have not independently verified
this, but if it's true, then I would suggest that
pushing to pay it off any sooner may be to the detriment
of other goals. Certainly I appreciate paying off
debts, but simultaneously, there is a weighing of
opportunity cost to consider.</p>
<p>On a separate note, the Ballot Access Committee's
report is asking for $250,000. I apologize for the
discrepancy between what was placed into the budget and
the report itself. As the report was being put
together, a number of things changed. Primarily,
Alabama has put together a plan which, if they execute
their half, I would encourage the LNC to execute the
second-half. Additionally, LP Ohio and LP Tennessee
will have "carry over" from the 2017, which isn't shown
as carry-over.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the Ballot Access Committee report
for the upcoming meeting: <br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hi2dav_9dfwRURz4pv8K6wG5GDsJMYisc-83WW-jRfQ/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1hi2dav_<wbr>9dfwRURz4pv8K6wG5GDsJMYisc-<wbr>83WW-jRfQ/edit?usp=sharing</a></p>
<p>Here is the link to the Ballot Access plan submitted by
LP Alabama:<br>
<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1I2NSKFsqjBXmvLqZXKkHVHNDMxQB3pgaXYsJzxuiVzU/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/<wbr>1I2NSKFsqjBXmvLqZXKkHVHNDMxQB3<wbr>pgaXYsJzxuiVzU/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a></p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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Libertarian National Committee<br>
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<p>On 2017-12-04 12:39, Lauren Daugherty wrote:</p>
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<p>Hi Caryn Ann,</p>
<p>We may do 1 or 2 fundraising appeals about the
building in 2018 but probably not much more than that
because we'll be focused on fundraising for ballot
access, candidate support, etc.</p>
<p>Yes, some people really like giving to something they
can touch and something that allows their name to
displayed permanently. We now have sponsors for all of
our named rooms at HQ so that removes what many people
would consider the biggest incentive for donors to
give big checks to the Building Fund. There are still
other opportunities for people to give and have their
name listed prominently, however, and we'll highlight
that occasionally.</p>
<p>For the purposes of budgeting, I do think it is wise
not to expect any large contributions to the Building
Fund in 2018.</p>
<p>Lauren</p>
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<div class="m_8608351368979219711moz-cite-prefix">On 12/3/2017 12:07 PM,
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<p>Aren't the building targeted fund-raisers pretty
successful? I do hope we have some planned. Some
people really like giving to that preferring to
invest in something they can touch.</p>
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<p>On 2017-12-03 10:31, Tim Hagan wrote:</p>
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<p>The draft 2018 budget that we were working on is
attached in Excel and PDF formats. I deleted the
worksheet for Total Salary since it contains the
salary for each staff member, which we have always
treated as confidential. Let me know if you want a
copy of the confidential salary expenses sheet.</p>
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the budget to be considered. The amounts are
calculated from the values on the Account Detail
sheet. </span></p>
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Expenses were increased compared to previous
years in the areas where contractors or staff
have been hired for functional areas: Affiliate
Development, Donor Renewal, Media Relations,
Candidate Support & Training. </span></p>
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Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee</div>
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indicating when the proposed budget would be
available. The meeting is now next week. Is
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<div dir="ltr">It appears (I just noticed
last night; I thought our next meeting was
in April) that we have a budget meeting in
December. Ahead of that, I wanted to ask
if the EC had a timeline for the proposed
budget.
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<div>Last term, we held one or two
teleconferences after we had the
proposed budget. I found those helpful,
and would encourage us to do that
again. I don't know that they resolved
much, but at least we knew going in
where the flashpoints were. </div>
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<div>In any case, I'd appreciate knowing
when we can expect the proposed budget
so I can plan my time accordingly.</div>
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