<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Thanks, Wes. On click-tracking, I think the devil if any is in the details. Is it telling staff only that <b><i>someone</i></b> clicked on an email, or is it compiling data on the habits of specific individuals, i.e. which kinds of emails they open, etc.? I am hesitantly okay with the former, but not the latter, unless an individual explicitly opts in to that kind of tracking.</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>If you want to lump all the Christian options together, you can still do that without putting them at the top of the list, by making them sub-categories of the "Christian" entry. </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I agree it's not easy to determine what is and what isn't a religion, and therefore what options to include or not include in such a poll. I think many people today do have more religious attitudes about environmentalism, statism, etc., than they do about Christianity or other traditional religions. In such a milieu, following member requests of categories to include based on how they wish to identify seems sensible.</div><div><br></div><div>Love & Liberty,</div><div><br></div><div> ((( starchild )))</div><div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div><div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div><div><br></div><div>P.S. – Since the "email cutover", I have not been receiving the LNC list emails. Or more specifically, I <i>was</i> receiving what I presume were all the emails sent to the reflector list up until last Sunday's meeting (they showed up in my In Box without the headers), but now as best I can determine I am receiving only emails sent to the LNC-votes list, via the reflector list, but not emails sent to the LNC-business list. Ken Moellman said he'd get with me to work on the issue a bit later this evening; hopefully we will be able to resolve the problem. Are other people subscribed to the reflector list receiving the emails, I wonder?</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Dec 15, 2017, at 3:53 PM, <a href="mailto:lnc-votes@hq.lp.org">lnc-votes@hq.lp.org</a> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite">
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p>Starchild, thanks for the observations and suggestions.</p><p>Click-tracking is a widely used practice to help measure the
effectiveness of emails. I don't plan to stop our use of it.
Others can debate the pros and cons of the practice. If the LNC
wants us to stop, I'll abide.</p><p>I prefer the way I lumped all the Christian options at the top so
you can kind of add them up quickly.</p><p>I was somewhat closely mirroring the sorting used at this
wikipedia article:</p><p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States</a><br>
</p><p><b style="color: rgb(34, 34, 34); font-family: sans-serif;
font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-ligatures:
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
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-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255,
255); text-decoration-style: initial; text-decoration-color:
initial;">Religious Self-Identification of the U.S. Adult
Population</b></p><p>There are probably many thousand religions across the world and
U.S. <br>
</p><p>I included several that Libertarians requested in the past that
were not included in a previous survey, but I did not choose
Transhumanist. It did cross my mind, but I figured we had enough
details for this unscientific survey.</p><p>It's not easy to make a list of the top religions, because things
like denominations and the difference between a religion and a
denomination make it complicated, not to mention the feedback
along the lines that "government is a religion" and
"environmentalism is a religion. <br>
</p><p>NOTA got 3%, so I think we covered most people's choices. </p><p>Take care,</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/15/2017 6:43 PM, Starchild wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Wes,</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>When
I attempted to click through from today's Libertarian email to
the poll on religion, I got an error page indicating there was a
tracker being used:</div>
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<div><a href="chrome://ublock0/content/document-blocked.html?" moz-do-not-send="true">chrome://ublock0/content/document-blocked.html?</a>details=eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwOi8vY2xpY2suaWNwdHJhY2suY29tL2ljcC9yZWxheS5waHA/cj04NTUzMDAzNyZtc2dpZD02MDg4MjUmYWN0PThCQkkmYz0xMTE1MTA4JmRlc3RpbmF0aW9uPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3cubHAub3JnJTJGd2hhdC1yZWxpZ2lvbi1hcmUtbGliZXJ0YXJpYW5zJTJGIiwiaG4iOiJjbGljay5pY3B0cmFjay5jb20iLCJkbiI6ImljcHRyYWNrLmNvbSIsImZjIjoiWzAsNjIsXCJpY3B0cmFjay5jb21cIl0iLCJmcyI6Inx8aWNwdHJhY2suY29tXiJ9</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>What
type of tracking are these emails employing? I do not think we
should be tracking people's clicks without their consent.</div>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>On
the poll itself (I went directly to <a href="http://LP.org/" moz-do-not-send="true">LP.org</a> and found it there at <a href="https://www.lp.org/what-religion-are-libertarians/" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lp.org/what-religion-are-libertarians/</a>),
I have a recommendation for an additional response category – <b>Transhumanist</b>. </div>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>This
may not ultimately be the most precise term for my own religious
views, which also encompass non-aggression and
decentralism/individualism, but as a "none of the above"
respondent, I feel it would fit me better than any of the terms
currently listed, and suspect there may be a few others who feel
similarly. For anyone curious about the religious aspects of
transhumanism, this page has some good material:</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.metanexus.net/essay/toward-transhumanist-theology" moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.metanexus.net/essay/toward-transhumanist-theology</a></div>
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<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Finally,
I would also urge that the poll response choices be listed in
alphabetical order (with the exception of leaving "Decline to
state" and "None of the above" at the bottom), rather than all
the Christian options being listed first.</div>
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<div>Love & Liberty,</div>
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<div> ((( starchild )))</div>
<div>At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee</div>
<div> <a href="mailto:RealReform@earthlink.net" moz-do-not-send="true">RealReform@earthlink.net</a></div>
<div> (415) 625-FREE</div>
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