<div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 10:12 AM <<a href="mailto:steven.nekhaila@lp.org">steven.nekhaila@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
Coming from a State which has been targeted due to individuals within<br>
and experienced considerable flack for years despite the great work we<br>
have accomplished, my advice to this body is to not give in to the lynch<br>
mobs demands, as I do not believe our policies even give us an avenue to<br>
act, but instead to encourage those who want to change party leadership<br>
to participate in the 2018 Libertarian National Convention and elect the<br>
leadership they would like to see in charge. The leadership is a<br>
reflection of the memberships will, if the membership wills to see a<br>
regime change that is their right, and the most effective way of<br>
carrying that out is to book accommodations to be at the convention of<br>
the greatest political party in the United States of America and be a<br>
part of crafting the future of US politics and culture. That should be<br>
our only response, it is also the most genuine and effective way for<br>
anyone who wants leadership change to achieve it. Turning our muzzles at<br>
each other is not the answer and quite frankly our bylaws do not allow<br>
it (to my knowledge), and even if it did I would not recommend it. We<br>
must stay united and move business forward until convention, encourage<br>
participation in the 2018 convention, and stick to our mission.<br>
Everything is else will end up in futility and that is not what this<br>
body wants.<br>
<br>
In Liberty,<br>
<br>
Steven Nekhaila<br>
Region 2 Rep Alternate<br>
<br>
Impotentes defendere libertatum non possunt<br>
"Those without power cannot defend freedom"<br>
<br>
On 2018-01-14 10:13 AM, Patrick McKnight wrote:<br>
> Thank you Elizabeth. I will co-sponsor this motion.<br>
><br>
> Patrick McKnight<br>
> Region 8 Rep<br>
> Chair, NJLP<br>
><br>
> On Jan 14, 2018 9:17 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <<a href="mailto:daniel.hayes@lp.org" target="_blank">daniel.hayes@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> The reality is that people choose to quit. Arvin doesn’t make<br>
>> them quit. Personal responsibility and all. He sure is encouraging<br>
>> the hell out of them though.<br>
>><br>
>> I sure wish those 50 people got this pissed off at Ohio State<br>
>> Government. It probably would have save us $100,000<br>
>><br>
>> Daniel Hayes<br>
>> LNC At Large Member<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 8:07 AM, Dustin Nanna <<a href="mailto:dustin.nanna@lp.org" target="_blank">dustin.nanna@lp.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> The possibility and reality that he HAS made people quit is why I<br>
>> support this motion. That and the 50 or so Ohio members who are<br>
>> completely disgusted.<br>
>><br>
>> Dustin Nanna<br>
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate<br>
>><br>
>> Vice Chair/Deputy Communications Director<br>
>> Libertarian Party of Ohio<br>
>><br>
>> (740) 816-9805 [1]<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 14, 2018 9:05 AM, Dustin Nanna <<a href="mailto:dustin.nanna@lp.org" target="_blank">dustin.nanna@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Motion, not amendment. Typo<br>
>><br>
>> Dustin Nanna<br>
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate<br>
>><br>
>> Vice Chair/Deputy Communications Director<br>
>> Libertarian Party of Ohio<br>
>><br>
>> (740) 816-9805 [1]<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 14, 2018 9:04 AM, Daniel Hayes <<a href="mailto:daniel.hayes@lp.org" target="_blank">daniel.hayes@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> In Louisiana, we have been through some legendary infighting.<br>
>> We’ve seen the wear and tear it puts on people and the<br>
>> organization.<br>
>><br>
>> We had a SCC meeting yesterday and I brought the subject of<br>
>> Arvin’s latest statement up and asked if we wanted to create a<br>
>> response. The “No” was palpable. We discussed it further and<br>
>> everybody seemed to think that with the convention 5 1/2 months<br>
>> away, allowing the delegates to handle it by not voting for Arvin if<br>
>> he runs again was the way it should be handled.<br>
>><br>
>> I suspect that after a 3 year period of grievances and attempts to<br>
>> remove people we maybe have a different perspective than others do.<br>
>> What we learned the hard way was the infighting/attempts at<br>
>> discipline was probably much more destructive than anything anybody<br>
>> actually did.<br>
>><br>
>> I see a LOT of opportunistic and hypocritical behavior going on<br>
>> relative to Arvin. I find those people whipping up the mob to be<br>
>> the bigger problem. I think a lot of it likely violates the LP<br>
>> “Pledge”. Attempting to use “force” for political gain. I<br>
>> don’t mean people don’t have a right to be upset. I just find it<br>
>> curious that people that seem to think everyone should have a<br>
>> platform coming out against Arvin, or groups that advocate against<br>
>> age of consent laws doing the same.<br>
>><br>
>> I am also disturbed but not surprised by the lynch mob calling Arvin<br>
>> a pedophile/pro-pedophile when he has very clearly stated he<br>
>> definitively opposes pedophilia. This more so applies to people that<br>
>> know the distinctions.<br>
>><br>
>> All that said, I am bothered by what seems to be Arvin’s desire<br>
>> to “purge” the party of the impure. The possibility that he is<br>
>> trying to get people to quit is the bigger issue.<br>
>><br>
>> Daniel Hayes<br>
>> LNC At Large Member<br>
>><br>
>> Daniel Hayes<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my iPhone<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 14, 2018, at 7:28 AM, David Demarest <<a href="mailto:david.demerest@lp.org" target="_blank">david.demerest@lp.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> The first stone has been cast.<br>
>><br>
>> This motion is not about ideology. It is about the crass politics of<br>
>> avoiding scaring voters in order to get elected to top-down<br>
>> authoritarian positions and hiding the dictates of one's conscience<br>
>> 'between the sheets' instead courageously proclaiming one's<br>
>> convictions 'on the streets'.<br>
>><br>
>> This motion will sort out those who have political, ideological and<br>
>> moral courage. We will soon see whether the LNC chooses to<br>
>> differentiate the Libertarian Party from the Republican and<br>
>> Democratic parties. The future of the LP could be in the balance.<br>
>><br>
>> I will expressly NOT co-sponsor this motion. If it comes to a vote,<br>
>> I will proudly, publicly, and emphatically vote "NO"!<br>
>><br>
>> Who among you is willing to cast the second stone?<br>
>><br>
>> Thoughts?<br>
>><br>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest<br>
>><br>
>> On Jan 14, 2018 4:52 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn@lp.org" target="_blank">elizabeth.vanhorn@lp.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> I make a motion to suspend Arvin Vohra from his position as Vice<br>
>> Chair under Article 6, Section 7 of our Bylaws.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
> ___________________________________________________________________________________________<br>
>><br>
>> Three of the four state affiliate chairs in Region 3 are now backing<br>
>> this motion. I told Region 3 that I'd need at least 3/4 of the<br>
>> region in accord to make the motion to suspend Arvin. That percent<br>
>> was reached last night.<br>
>><br>
>> When I volunteered my time and energy to be a Regional Rep on the<br>
>> LNC, I didn't do it under the circumstances of, "only if<br>
>> convenient".<br>
>><br>
>> I'm doing this because I care about giving a voice to the many LP<br>
>> members who are running for office, getting out the vote, and<br>
>> spending their hard-earned money working toward electing<br>
>> libertarians.<br>
>><br>
>> These are the people that make up the Libertarian Party. It is their<br>
>> voice that I represent.<br>
>><br>
>> So, it is with calm resolve that I make this motion.<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Elizabeth Van Horn<br>
>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)<br>
>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana<br>
>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee<br>
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus<br>
>> <a href="http://www.lpcaucus.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.lpcaucus.org/</a><br>
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