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<p>On 2018-07-31 17:38, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business wrote:</p>
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<div>On Jul 31, 2018 at 7:58 AM, <<a href="mailto:lnc-business@hq.lp.org">Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business</a>> wrote:<br /><br /></div>
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<pre>REMINDER - This ballot will expire on AUGUST 1, 2018.
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<br />I have noted the following (please inform me of any corrections):
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<br />Voting AYE: Harlos, Longstreth, Merced, Nekhaila, Olsen, Phillips
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<br />Voting NAY: Goldstein, Lyons
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<br />Express Abstentions: None
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<br />Not Voting: Bilyeu/Adams, Bishop-Henchman, Hagan, Lark/Hogarth,
<br />Mattson, Redpath, Sarwark, Smith, Van Horn/Nanna
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<br />For a current tally of 6-2.
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<br />Notes: Region 8 Representative Hewitt has not voted so Alternate
<br />Olsen's vote stands.
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<br />You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of votes here:
<br />https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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<br />On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:09 PM, Jeff Lyons via Lnc-business
<br /><lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
<br />> On 2018-07-25 20:40, Alex Merced (LNC Vice Chair) via Lnc-business wrote:
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<br />>> I vote yes, from my understanding this does not appoint them as the
<br />>> judicial committee which if successfully elected by delegates we'd be
<br />>> bound to follow.
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<br />>> Instead this just says the LNC will voluntarily bind itself to the
<br />>> decisions of the top 7 vote getters in matters in which a JC would
<br />>> operate.
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<br />>> This seems to me an effort to self-regulate in a spirit that Best
<br />>> represents an effort to represent the wishes of the delegation to the
<br />>> extent such can be discernible with the existing votes.
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<br />>> This motion does not say they are the JC but just that we will hold
<br />>> their deliberations voluntarily binding in same way we'd be
<br />>> mandatorily bound had they'd successfully been elected.
<br />>>
<br />>> An unfortunate compromise, but the best one I've seen. It isn't the
<br />>> LNC Creating new powers but voluntarily putting a back stop on its
<br />>> existing ones temporarily since no other backstops exist formally for
<br />>> the time being.
<br />>>
<br />>> Alex Merced
<br />>> Vice Chair of the Libertarian National Committee/LP
<br />>>
<br />>>> On Jul 25, 2018, at 2:12 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
<br />>>> <lnc-business@hq.lp.org> wrote:
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<br />>>> It is better than having zero protection at all for the members. And
<br />>>> IF after making this agreement, anyone who voted to then renege I
<br />>>> would hope would not be re-elected. This "JC" has already submitted
<br />>>> it appellate rules.
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<br />>>> Our Party structure NEVER imagined an unaccountable LNC.
<br />>>>
<br />>>> -Caryn Ann
<br />>>>
<br />>>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 12:05 PM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein@lp.org>
<br />>>>> wrote:
<br />>>>> I vote No on this motion.
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<br />>>>> 1. The Bylaws are clear that only delegates at convention can elect the
<br />>>>> Judicial Committee
<br />>>>> 2. The Top Seven mentioned in this motion were not approved by margins
<br />>>>> of at
<br />>>>> least 60% of the
<br />>>>> delegates so would not meet the precedent set by the last JC of
<br />>>>> requiring
<br />>>>> a majority approval of delegates
<br />>>>> 3. There is no provision in either the Bylaws or Policy Manual of how
<br />>>>> this
<br />>>>> pretend JC would function, whether it
<br />>>>> would follow Appellate rules set by the last JC or would dream up its'
<br />>>>> own rules that this motion would
<br />>>>> have the LNC be bound to follow
<br />>>>> 4. This has essentially already been rejected by the LNC per the motion
<br />>>>> to
<br />>>>> recognize the Top Seven as the JC (which I voted
<br />>>>> in favor of but have reconsidered)
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<br />>>>> Please consider my points before you vote on this motion. The entire
<br />>>>> purpose of the Judicial Committee is to have a body
<br />>>>> that is not beholden to the LNC. There is no guarantee that if the
<br />>>>> pretend
<br />>>>> JC makes a decision objectionable to the LNC that
<br />>>>> the LNC cannot just reverse this motion by a majority vote.
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<br />>>>> ---
<br />>>>> Sam Goldstein
<br />>>>> Libertarian National Committee
<br />>>>> 317-850-0726 Cell
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<br />>>>>> On 2018-07-25 13:23, Craig Bowden via Lnc-business wrote:
<br />>>>>>
<br />>>>>> Yes
<br />>>>>>
<br />>>>>> Craig Bowden
<br />>>>>> Region 1 Alternate
<br />>>>>>
<br />>>>>>> On 2018-07-25 06:06, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business wrote:
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<br />>>>>>> We have an electronic mail ballot. Votes are due to the LNC-Business
<br />>>>>>> list by AUGUST 1, 2018 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time. Co-Sponsors:
<br />>>>>>> Harlos,
<br />>>>>>> Longstreth, Merced, Phillips Motion: Move that the Libertarian
<br />>>>>>> National
<br />>>>>>> Committee agree to be bound by the decisions of the top-seven
<br />>>>>>> vote-getters for the Judicial Committee at the 2018 Convention as if
<br />>>>>>> they were elected in the normal course of convention business and
<br />>>>>>> follow the procedures and rules set forth in our Bylaws. It is
<br />>>>>>> acknowledged that this agreement is not binding upon any member or
<br />>>>>>> affiliate. You can keep track of the Secretary's manual tally of
<br />>>>>>> votes
<br />>>>>>> here: [1]https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
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<br />>>>>>> In Liberty,
<br />>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
<br />>>>>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
<br />>>>>>> [2]Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia@LP.org
<br />>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
<br />>>>>>> We defend your rights
<br />>>>>>> And oppose the use of force
<br />>>>>>> Taxation is theft
<br />>>>>>>
<br />>>>>>> References
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<br />>>>>>> 1. https://tinyurl.com/lncvoting
<br />>>>>>> 2. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos@LP.org
<br />>>>
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<br />>>> --
<br />>>> In Liberty,
<br />>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
<br />>>> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
<br />>>> Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia@LP.org
<br />>>>
<br />>>>
<br />>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
<br />>>> We defend your rights
<br />>>> And oppose the use of force
<br />>>> Taxation is theft
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<br />> I could get behind this solution, once we ensure this never happens again.
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<br />> In Liberty,
<br />> Jeff Lyons
<br />>
<br />> Region 8 Alternate
<br />> (Acting Region 8 Rep)
<br />>
<br />> Libertarian Assoc. of MA
<br />> Membership Director
<br />> http://www.lpmass.org/join
<br />>
<br />> Daniel Fishman for Auditor
<br />> Campaign Manager
<br />> http://www.AuditMassachusetts.com
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<br />In Liberty,
<br />Caryn Ann Harlos
<br />Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
<br />Caryn.Ann. Harlos@LP.org or Secretary@LP.org.
<br />Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia@LP.org
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<br />A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
<br />We defend your rights
<br />And oppose the use of force
<br />Taxation is theft
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